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- schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -6/+41It's nice to see that Adobe finally treats Linux not as a second/third class citizen when it comes to Flash.
According to news from 20/8, gnash is gaining traction too.. http://www.syllable.org/discussion.php?id=2330 - Comus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+33Further proof of Linux's impending world domination.
- mooninite, on 10/10/2007, -8/+36Hm, so Adobe is paying for the H.264 and AAC patent royalties for all Linux users? Interesting...
They should have just gone with Ogg Theora and Vorbis. Oh... and where's the 64-bit player? - cantormath, on 10/10/2007, -5/+33Good News, go Adobe..
- mattfugitive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20First UT, now this.. oh boy this is getting good.
- BladeMelbourne, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19Still not available for Linux on PPC :-( Gnash and swfdec just don't cut it.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20YAY! 64bit! Oh wait... crap.
- Sp1k3, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21h.264 is royalty free and an open standard, while the more popular encoders and decoders for it are proprietary formats like Quicktime 7, and now Flash 9, full blown support for it is built into the latest free/open-source video players like VLC, MPlayer, and Xine. While this didn't come out of the FLOSS community like Ogg Theora, H.264 is more free than Xvid or the "open source" versions of Divx 5 and 6.
- robuk24, on 10/10/2007, -15/+30die flash die
- supfoo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Linux has been making more of a buzz lately, it seems.
- MasteRR, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15Does it not suck yet? I am tired of Flash crashing Firefox left and right.
- CircleFusion, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Is it any different than Windows or Mac in that regard? Is Adobe getting money from the Windows users who install Flash player to pay for the h.264 licensing?
- n0xxin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Gnash and swfdec just don't cut it... YET.
Want to see youtube videos on x64, PowerPC, PlayStation 3, Alpha or MIPS or whatever? Gnash is the only way. - covidiu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Found some demos:
http://marcelfahle.com/2007/08/21/first-h264-demo-in-flash-player-9/ - awesomeface, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8When running Firefox on Windows or Linux, 9 times outta 10 (IF it crashes) it's because of flash.
- jues, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9x264 is an encoder, h264 (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC) is the codec -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
- MrARPA, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8I wonder whether they are being spurred on by the ¨threat¨ of Microsoft® Silverlight™ ?
- VarianX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I think Linux PPC users are the minority within the minority. It's a shame, that old iBook of mine would have made a fantastic browser-only surfing machine for my kids -- except every damn kid site uses flash now. We can wait on Gnash, but that's assuming they continue acknowledging the PPC platform .
- hockey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Except that UT has had linux support for years. The UT2004 CD's have a linux installer in the boxed version.
- sremick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4So as the number of sites using Flash increases, the more of the internet is blocked out to anyone not running Windows/MacOS/Linux.
This is 2007. The number and types of non-desktop web-connected devices are increasing (not to mention those who don't run one of the "Big 3" OSes). We already waged a war on Microsoft for them trying to hold the keys to entry to the internet with IE. Do we really want Adobe to hold the keys with Flash? Why should it be Adobe's whim whether the device or OS you are using gets to access web content? - jues, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4@damentz,
The actual codec is pretty irrelevant - it's more important that Adobe have given us the opportunity to start using a wide-spread standard (h264) to deliver our video content with. On2's VP6 produced very impressive results, but the licensing costs for end-users were crippling considering all the other costs of delivery online video. - alexweej, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4H.264 is covered by patents held by MPEG LA. Theora is not.
- Noctem, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Pretty sure he's referring to the recent announcement that UT3 will have Linux support.
- oderdigg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Actually, I get the left-click bug with the Beta drivers. Too bad, I had to go back to the non-Beta driver and everything is fine.. How annoying...
- anshuman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4yessssss!!!!
- pointfivezero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Is it so much to ask for 64bit and a fix for the left mouse button click issue in compiz fusion?
- stmiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"H.264 is more free than Xvid"
Ah no. And H.264 is not a royalty free open standard. It is wrapped in the legal mess of mpeg legality issues. This is why Ubuntu and others do not supply ffmpeg (though you can fetch it from a third party repo.) Please mod this guy/gal down. - Sp1k3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Doesn't seem to work properly with Beryl or Compiz Fusion, I have enabled and disabled plenty of work-arounds too!
- Stonekeeper, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Oh great... now I can be Rick Roll'd in even more colours :|
- oderdigg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Thanks Bro. I've got Ubuntu AMD64 using Nvidia 100.14.10 drivers with Compiz-Fusion (0.5.2 compiled) and i've got it running via Ndiswrapper.. thanks to your link, I can verify it's working and holy ***** does h.264 look nice !!! Thanks again.
- oderdigg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Doesn't codec stand for Coder - Decoder?
- Drewcool, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5the flash the?
- brinkness, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The left-click bug mentioned in the article is a pretty serious one, IMHO. Flash not responding to the right mouse button... okay I could see that. But the LEFT one? That sort of breaks a lot of what flash is for in the first place, you know?
- Optic7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Xvid is also an implementation of part of the mpeg 4 spec, and as such, covered by patents, just like h.264 is. Besides that, they are probably affected by the same quandary that mooninite linked to above, regarding the GPL vs. patents.
- c0ldfusi0n, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Not news. Let me know when it's available for amd64 so i can stop running firefox in 32bit. THEN i'll be happy.
- oderdigg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3As I posted before, stick with the 64 bit FF but use a 32-bit ndiswrapper and the 32-bit flash player...
- stmiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I strongly agree. The internet and web should not rely on Adobe (or ANY company) for content 'standards.' CSS, HTML, scripting, etc. are all open and free standards to make operable webpages that work on any platform, any browser. Relying on one company (Adobe) with a proprietary plugin for the web is not a good idea.
All your internetS belong to Adobe. - covidiu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It works for me (w/Compiz Fusion). Just did a few tests on YouTube and some other flash sites. Btw, is there any test page for the new features?
- mooninite, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3H.264 is not open and free. Where did you read that?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264#Patent_licensing
It is a violation of the LGPL to ship a project that uses the H.264 codec in the USA. - chrysrobyn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Is there a better work around than just holding down shift?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3anyone who speaks german can't be evil.
- markhp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Has anyone actually installed and tried it? Windowed video is faster, full screen still chugs on Linux.
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3H.264 is not more free than XviD! XviD is GPL.
- oderdigg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Dude, I've got HL2 installed via Wine and I have Compiz-Fusion running. I can play HL2 while moving the cube around... very dope.
I've also read that some people have BF2 installed via Wine... Microsoft better do something drastic in the next 4-5 years or they will become as obsolete as mainframe. - hordak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Well then... download the linux version and show your support! (They'll notice in the stats!) :)
- amoore260, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Any packages for Ubuntu yet?
- srg13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Less than 1%? You're living in the past...
- stmiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"We can wait on Gnash, but that's assuming they continue acknowledging the PPC platform ."
Gnash supports many platforms and will always continue to do so. The powerpc arch is not going away but in fact is being continuously developed. (IBM POWER6, PS3, Wii, Xbox 360, Efika boxes, etc., etc) - vanden9, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3why not just use osx for that?
- someguyouknow, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Doesnt seem to work with Opera.
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