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- osc1882, on 10/12/2007, -14/+79Myspace? How old are you? Are you on AOL or something?
- SamKellett, on 10/12/2007, -8/+71Inaccurate, Flash player 9 not Flash 9.
Big difference to Flash developers. - bruenig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+51Direct link to tar.gz: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
- shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -2/+51now for the rest of adobe's products... :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+52"Still closed proprietary crap"
it's hard to see but there a point there.
imagine html being closed and the only way to see it and write it being adobe products. - schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+41Months ago they promised simultaneous releases to all platforms and shortly afterwards fooled everyone by announcing Adobe Acroboat Reader 8 for LInux/UNIX. But instead, all they gave was Actobot Reader 7.08. Linux is still waiting...
Adobe, If you keep treating Open Source as second-class citizens, this growing community will treat you as a second-class company, refuse to embrace Flash, or just work on gnash, which is making excellent progress by the way.
Mike and the community might be able to get things done, but as a wealthy commerial company you continue to disappoint many people.
Adobe only stretches as far as its wallet goes. Ethics and values are a secondary nice-to-haves. - jrepin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+40Still waiting for 64-bit AMD64 version.
- Werrismys, on 10/12/2007, -7/+43No we can't. It's still a closed proprietary 32bitonly binary blob. Where's Flash9 for my portable Linux (ARM CPU)? Where's Flash9 for PPC Linux? Where's the 64bit version?
Binaryonly is SO early 90's. - lowridah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30pdf is an open file format actually....flash is not.
- bustedagain, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26I hate the NT kernel
- trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20@Celsius032
It is possible to use 32 bit flash in 64 bit Linux, even without a chroot:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
Not that a native solution wouldn't be nice, but don't let it stop you from Using Linux :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Thanks, can't wait to see a BSD version of the Flash Plugin :)
Apparently it's in the works. - subhuman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I think he is talking about Adobe/Macromedia Shockwave, which is Windows/mac only.
- wampl3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15One of the adobe guys mentions that 64bit is being worked on... plus a whole bunch of info about the final release:
http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/01/non-beta-flash-player-9-for-linux.html - shakin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13"The fact is that linux is a small platform with few users. And those users are *very* unlikely to do any buisness with adobe."
The primary corporate users of Linux are programmers like me. I make decisions about which technologies we use on our web site and when we wanted to stream video I looked at many different options. Flash 7 video is terrible, but because I had the beta of Flash Player 9 working I decided that was the ideal platform for streaming video due to cross browser and cross operating system compatibility.
By supporting Flash Player on Linux, Adobe sold six copies of Flash to our design team who use Macs and Flash Media Server for our back end.
I wonder how many sales Adobe has made elsewhere for similar reasons? Not to mention the fact that I no longer actively discourage people from using Flash when they ask about it in one of the web development and design forums I frequent. I actually recommend Flash for streaming video and for certain web page UI elements. - msgyrd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Give them a break for ignoring us and delivering second rate software? No, I think I prefer to hold them accountable.
Anyways, linux may not directly affect their bottom line (since they don't release development software for linux), but linux users do affect the purchasing decisions of many others. Pissing off any segment of the market, regardless of how big or small, is still bad for your company. - weijie90, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Thank you Adobe, for making a step in the right direction!
- trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Don't worry, if you have the backports repository enabled you should get an automatic update by tomorrow.
- iamdanielj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@ciproxr
"Who knows maybe they can actually mount your windows partitions for you"
Maybe Windows should actually mount my linux partitions for me. Why should it have to work only one way? Espically that my linux partitions are opensourced, and open-standards, unlike NTFS. That should be easy for Windows to do. - ojk007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12now all we need is flex builder, or an equivalent using the SDK for linux, and ill never need windows for any programming again.
Ah wouldn't it be nice! - skywake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12what? and linux doesn't do all that already?
then what OS is this I am using then? - zlintux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Uhm, you can just use nspluginwrapper, which allows you to use a 64bit-compiled firefox and a 32bit-compiled plugin.
It has a handful of quirks, although one doesn't know if it's nspluginwrapper or the beta version of flash i've been using.
As for Java... well, there's 64bit JREs already available. So not a real issue there.
Still, I refuse to believe it's as hard as they want to make us think to make a 64bit linux version... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10cbtf:
wtf are you talking about? You do know there are plenty of Linux distros that use packet managers? Damn, you're ignorant.
Besides, it IS easier to install things with a packet manager instead of "double-clicking" it and using those crappy installers. Period. - mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9lol CBTF...... dude the update is going to come up for everyone by tomorrow morning - automatically. No one has to do anything IF they have enabled the backports repository (which contains the latest-greatest updates), and enabling it is like 2 clicks anyway... security updates etc. are already enabled by default.
- chaos386, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Maybe you should have thought first before installing the Linux version of Flash Player on OS X. ;)
- eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's crashing my browser after 15 seconds. Which is better than crashing it right away I suppose
- cpritchard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You don't need Flash to make swfs
http://osflash.org/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6they have no obligation to make their software available to windows, either.
linux and windows and mac are all OS'es just the same, and all three have a significant enough user share that for any format to become standard, it should be available across all three. - sirdaz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Now I can say that linux is a step closer to mainstream use. It really annoyed me when people said that linux is ready for mainstream, but how could it be? I'd say 80-90% of all internet users, use flash in some way or other, even if they don't realise it (My estimate, I have no proof of that claim).
This is a huge step forward IMO. - Muncher, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"If they totally opened it up they would have different browsers/players rendering the content differently. The main lure of flash is that it always looks the same."
Yeah, in fact, the only reason HTML hasn't caught on is because it's an open standard. Oh, wait... - supermansuper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@lowridah
The 'flash player' is closed source. Whereas, the flash file format is open. Here, check this out: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/developer/fileformat/faq/#item-1-4
Using the specification, you can create a flash player yourself, if you chose. - jopsen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Run the installer, from the tar.gz as root, and install Adobe Flash 9. It'll ask for the path of your mozilla/firefox installation. Under ubuntu it's: /usr/lib/firefox
Good luck... - pain4fun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6finally.. now i can get rid of the buggy beta..
egze:
1. Click the "Download .tar.gz" link. A dialog box will appear asking you where to save the file.
2. Save the .tar.gz file to your desktop and wait for the file to download completely.
3. Unpackage the file. A directory called install_flash_player_9_linux will be created.
4. In terminal, navigate to this directory and type ./flashplayer-installer to run the installer. Click Enter. The installer will instruct you to shut down your browser(s).
5. Once the installation is complete, the plug-in will be installed in your Mozilla browser. To verify, launch Mozilla and choose Help > About Plug-ins from the browser menu. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Now that flash 9 is out for linux, i bet they release flash 10 for windows, and then everyone upgrades/updates web sites with flash 10. And it will be the whole issue all over again
- sonu27, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Now that there's Flash 9 for Linux, there should be Shockwave 10 for Linux.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4For those who don't want to touch the terminal:
1) Download the .tar.gz file somewhere, right click and Extract Here.
2) Places > Home, hit Ctrl+L and type .mozilla/plugins and hit enter
3) Drag and drop the libflashplayer.so file which you unzipped into the plugins folder
Done. Just close and restart firefox (all windows). - trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5If you are on Ubuntu and have the backports repository enabled it looks like the final flash 9 is already available and should automatically update.
- jtdgrz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Ah, yes, the standard Linux solutions. An infinitely more complicated solution for a simple task. I am a Linux user myself, but the lack of support from companies is one of the main reasons that there are not a lot more people to switch to Linux. Increasing support for applications to make the user experience easier will increase the amount of people on Linux. In the mean time, current users are stuck with huge fixes.
Not being able to watch Google Video/YouTube is an exact example of this. These are standard activities which are not easily done on Linux -- which is unacceptable. That is what needs to be fixed to increase Linux market share. - Falladir, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The fact that it's out of beta doesn't necessarily mean it will be bug-free.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4it hangs firefox sometimes when using youtubes, closing them, going back, opening new ones. etc.
- Lowspirit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So far this final version seem to have to corrected the last couple of hangs and sync issues I had with it, though I'll still keep any eye out here for future development :
http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
If you're running Gentoo and are really impatient search for flash on the bugzilla and someone have already bumped an ebuild to final for approval. - jonesin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Here's the terminal output I get when running it.
Flash Player: Warning: environment variable G_FILENAME_ENCODING is set and is not UTF-8
Here's what happens when it crashes upon visiting any site with Flash.
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.7/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 25673 Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"} - go1dfish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@supermansuper
That would be incorrect, your are explicitly forbidden from using the flash sdk to write your own player.
From the page you linked to:
Can I use the File Format Specification to create a SWF interpreter or player?
No, the File Format Specification is provided for the specific purpose of enabling software applications to export to the Macromedia Flash File Format (SWF).
IIRC You must explicitly agree not to implement a player before getting access to the SDK
Flash is NOT open, adobe tries to give it the appearance of an open standard when in reality it is quite closed and damaging to platform independence as it relates to the internet. - mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3LMAO....... thanks for giving me a hearty laugh on an otherwise dull day.
- markey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Works fine with Opera 9.1, though.
- nukem996, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4geoken: Thats a bunch of crap. If it was open and free bugs would get fixed faster it would be available on more platforms and would let users actually see what flash is doing instead of running a binary blob on their computer. There are plenty of web browsers which are all developed independently but they seem to all be able to render web pages the same. As long as Adobe kept a standard feature set and a way for developers to verify that flash was rendering correctly everything would be fine.
- sepelester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Now for 64bit support! Charge!
Seriously, this is often not a problem for a windows user, but linux users more and more frequently run 64bit versions of their operating system, and Adobe has yet to come with 64bit support and precompiled binary packages (.deb, .rpm et al.)
(even better would be source packages, but that may be too much to ask from proprietary software vendors, eh? ;) - eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yeah, its crashing my party too.
- yodamitsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hey port the whole CS2 suite over!
- mraustin1337, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Goddammit. Finally!
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