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- Chakz, on 10/11/2007, -7/+54I've used, and liked both Windows and Linux. But not all the programs I use are available on Linux. I know that there is alternatives but why switch if I'm satisfied?
They both have their pros and cons, the user will choose whichever one suits them. - armbar, on 10/11/2007, -8/+51Congratulations, you've officially destroyed English.
- eplawless, on 10/11/2007, -24/+58I'm posting this from Ubuntu, as I'm getting ready to format and reinstall Windows. I love open source projects, and I completely support what Linux represents, but it's not worth the aggravation. I updated my video card drivers and the X server wouldn't start, I have to run Feisty in software mode for it to even give me a GUI. This is on an nVidia card. It took me a full day of trying random hacks to get my wireless adapter to work. On my laptop the OS won't even boot... so many other problems crop up pretty much daily. I'm not trying to put blame anywhere, and really, I don't care where the blame belongs, but Linux has so many things wrong with it that it's an ongoing project just to keep it functional. I love messing around with computers, but sometimes I'd just like to use the thing without having to worry about it breaking at random, and Linux hasn't been able to offer me that.
- scabbers, on 10/11/2007, -7/+29No one is blaming linux for the lack of hardware support. We all know who's fault it is - it just doesn't actually make any difference to the situation.
- brstilson, on 10/11/2007, -4/+25Help! I'm being attacked by run-on sentences!
- TheTankengine, on 10/11/2007, -4/+23@ajh16
That is exactly what distrowatch.com does.
Just because you aren't aware of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Try researching instead of flaming Linux. - WindyT, on 10/11/2007, -27/+45Run Firefox with Windows for the first time - come across a site that needs Sun's Java plugin - install is relatively simple
Run Firefox with Linux for the first time - come across a site that needs Sun's Java plugin - discover you're going to waste a few hours trying to find out why you can't install it correctly. Finally figure out the version that Sun currently offers isn't going to work no matter what you do.
Once again, Linux is free, but only if your time is worthless. - MrUnderbridge, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20The 'too many distros' "myth" ends up having some truth. Many studies have shown that too much variety becomes confusing to non-experts, whether it be computers or supermarket selection. Another way it hurts is that the lack of standardization means that many packages don't work across distros. Linux has been easier to adopt during periods when there has been a fairly dominant distro - though I don't use it, the emergence of Ubuntu as a newbie default helps a lot.
As for hardware...it doesn't matter whose *fault* it is that a lot of hardware isn't well supported in Linux. It's still our *problem*.
Regarding the 'People are satisfied with Windows' "myth" - it's more that people don't realize that other platforms don't suffer from the same problems they have. The average consumer believes it's normal for computers to gradually get slower over time before being replaced. They don't realize they've crapped it up with viruses and spyware. So we need a better education campaign. - Kr4t05, on 10/11/2007, -16/+32Congratulations, you've narrow-mindedly assumed that everyone on the internet speaks flawless English. Take a moment to realize that not all digg users are from the US/UK.
- UrbanVoyeur, on 10/11/2007, -7/+23One problem with Linux is that if things work, the world is beautiful, but even a small problem can takes dozens of hours to solve with some wacky CLI work around. Most people just don't have the patience (or the expertise).
I also think that the Linux dev/hardcore user community really misunderstands why GUI's are better that CLI for the most users. Forget all the "teach a man to fish.. " nonsense. A user can immediately start using a GUI to changes settings, even a poorly designed one, just by looking at. A CLI just blinks back at you until wade through man pages looking for the secret handshake. People don't want to waste their time memorizing CLI commands- they want their PC's to accommodate them. There is a desperate need for better gui's to handle the more complicated tasks. ( PS I run Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop) - potterboy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+17That doesn't work for me becuase my 67 year old grandmother was in the mainframe industry from the 50's to the 80's. She knows unix
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -9/+23My main gripe with Linux is the lack of standards. I guess it is both a blessing and a curse.
...also, not having surround sound on AC'97 audio by now is ridiculous... Windows 98 could do it! (vendor's fault, but still) - S0m3dud3, on 10/11/2007, -13/+25"Run Firefox with Linux for the first time - come across a site that needs Sun's Java plugin - discover you're going to waste a few hours trying to find out why you can't install it correctly. Finally figure out the version that Sun currently offers isn't going to work no matter what you do."
That is complete *****. If you had actually tried Ubuntu Linux, you would know that installing the java plugin is more or less exactly the same as on windows via the FireFox web browser... - SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12As someone who used linux from '94 to '99 and recently getting back into it with Ubuntu, I've got to say that the main failing of Linux is the arrogant impatient user community.
For years, RTFman was the standard response (not in those words exactly, but the hostility was there) on websites from "helpful" linux users. This sort of hostility and arrogance turned off many people who were genuinely interested in Linux. Things are getting better, especially with the actually helpful Ubuntu community.
Personally I like Linux, and I like Windows. - McTendo, on 10/11/2007, -11/+23Congratulations, you've narrow-mindedly assumed that everyone on Digg that speaks English is from the US/UK. Don't make me make you Canada's bitch, Bitch.
- ventralnet, on 10/11/2007, -14/+25@dbft
Linux --
Try to tell your 70 year old grandmother "Just goto java.com download the bin make it executable open a terminal run the executable edit your environment variables and add java to your path..... etc etc etc
Windows --
Now tell your 70 year old grandmother, goto java.com click the link "install java"... done
Which one do you think she will have a better chance of doing herself - JonLatane, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12@jqp123
A standard desktop? I guess you don't really understand the point of standards, do you?
The reason Linux users advocate open standards is for interoperability. The entire point of a hardware, driver, filetype, etc. standard is so that you can use your hardware and open your files regardless of what desktop, applications, or even OS and architecture you use. A "standard desktop," first of all, wouldn't hurt Linux, and second of all, would completely defeat the purpose of all the other standards. - idugcoal, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12Dude, people don't write articles FOR digg. Well, sometimes they do, but that's lame, and it's not the case with this one.
- thomas, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11The single biggest thing getting in the way of Linux going mainstream is installing software. Right now the installers range from easy to use to pain in the ass and change from distro to distro and thats something most people don't want to deal with.
- chris9902, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11I don't really care how my computer does stuff as long as it does it.
- netdawg, on 10/11/2007, -8/+18Guys who write articles like this just don't get it. Neither do guys who sit smugly in their "ivory towers running OSX and Linux". The great majority of computer users use Windows because that's what they were given to use. They don't give a rat's ass about the user interface or hardware support or up-to-date drivers. Most don't know what these are. All they want is to put their baby's picture on their desktop- though they call it a screensaver and then they want to be able to do a task: write a letter or keep a checkbook or shop online. They use Windows because that's what they've always used and they know how to do it. They're not going to switch to Linux or Mac. Ever. Here in the US there are literally millions of users who will use XP until the day they die because they don't need anything else and they don't care about the newest and greatest. The Linux and Mac people who sit in their smug self-satisfied bubbles might as well shut the ***** up because they aren't talking to anyone but themselves.
- mooninite, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11"...also, not having surround sound on AC'97 audio by now is ridiculous..."
What have you been smoking?
ALSA brought surround sound *YEARS* ago. I've used surround sound on numerous occasions with SB Live, AC'97, and the new HD Audio codecs. No problems.
Bury the troll please. - skywake, on 10/11/2007, -14/+23@betterth
Microsoft doesn't give you choice... they are all the same thing..
some versions just happen have more features enabled then others
(infact, the difference between versions is based on the CD-Key)
with the different Linux distos its an entirely different matter... there are entirely different branches of development
it would be like saying a car and a plane are the same because they both take you places - masamunecyrus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8@ajh16:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions
Though that doesn't make the decision on which to choose any less complicated. - jono10, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9As an Aussie I think we do reasonably well speaking English. Although our native language "Strine" is used mainly for day to day use.
Geeze, these drongo seppos reckon yous ockers don't gasbag English lingo, aye. - sevs, on 10/11/2007, -9/+17OK, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I've been looking into Linux for a whole long time, and I even tried some VMWare distros of it and played around with it, but I finally came to the conclusion that, even though I'm very good with computer, Linux is not worth my time, and while there are many factors including all the crap with creating custom drivers and such, what it comes down to, for me, is the community.
The Linux community is full of holier than thou ***** who aren't willing to help you with a problem. Don't lie and say they do because I've tried to get help from Linux users and what do I get? I get lectures, I get derailed, I get insulted because I obviously can't program my own hardware driver in my sleep, that sort of clique-ness is not going to help an operating system become mainstream any time soon. It seems the only way to get any help out of the Linux community is to become a flamer and insult the system so that some guy who feels the need to support his operating system comes out to prove you wrong, then you've gotten some very round about help.
Why would anyone choose an operating system with that sort of community behind it? Also this article it a joke and is not written in a way that makes him sound any more intelligible than the article he's trying to debunk, in fact, he sounds worse than the article he's trying to debunk since "What are you smoking..." is not exactly something that is very constructive criticism. This guy just optimizes the reasons WHY normal people don't use Linux, good job. - notnoisy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12Users find it a daunting task just to execute "ipconfig" in the Windows command prompt. They should never, ever have to go to a CLI.
- Izacus, on 10/11/2007, -8/+15How can anyone take an aricle written in such tone seriously? If the guy wanted to write an objective article, he really should have left out sentences like "What are you smoking over there?". If he wanted to write a biased article... he shouldn't have bothered. We have enough of those here on digg.
- Arghie, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12I recently (about 2 months back) switched from Windows to Ubuntu. I ran the LiveCD for about 3 days straight to see if it was something I could tolerate and then installed. I started out with a dual boot option and then realized I would never make the full switch unless I jumped in fully. I went with the full install of Ubuntu (it was still release 6 at that point) and had minor problems getting my printer to work, getting codecs, etc.
Then I got a new mobo and went with 64 bit release 7 of Ubuntu. It is getting more and more "dummy-proof". The printer was found easily, the codecs work just like with Windows (popup window asking if I want to find the correct codec). It did everything I needed it to do out of the box. I have yet to even need the command line since the upgrade - although I am usually comfortable with using it.
The eye candy aspects are far superior (opinion). The learning curve wasn't as bad as some make it out to be. My wife was able to install and configure it all with almost no frustration. Each release, each update, gets easier and easier. I've never had a problem getting help when I needed it. I don't think of myself as being in a clique, or superior. It's just a choice I made and not really a big one in the grand scheme of things. - VinceNoir, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8@TubaTechno
It is true that if you want to do more, you have to buy more. But in the software world it's taken to extremes. For example, I would consider a feature like high quality "graphic EQ" in a multitrack audio application to be a standard feature. But for many Windows audio apps, you typically have to buy a plug in to extend the functionality of your app to include that. This is like having to pay extra for air conditioning in your car. Another example is antivirus software. It's obviously a problem (and all OSes are vulnerable in their own way), but even now you have to pay extra if you want the protection. It should be a part of the base OS. Most Linux distros include ClamAV as part of their "extras" that you don't have to pay for at all. And that includes updates from the ClamAV project, for free. The software companies take far too much advantage of people's lack of knowledge compared to any other industry except maybe the auto industry. And don't even get me started about licenses and copy protection... - superterran, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8@eplawless
I feel you, man. It's the same thing as if you were trying to install Mac OS X on a Dell computer. Mac's don't play well with other hardare; Ubuntu just doesn't support all your hardware completely. The community's a beating drum, though - they'll get their eventually.
Ubuntu is more of a kit OS in my mind; you dualie it out with Windows Vista, and when your bored you get to playing with it. I just managed to get my ATI/Fiesty install to the point where Beryl runs well and it has all the eye candy and niceties i'm looking for. My next thing is to tackle MythTV and my Media Center remote. Maybe then, I'll consider keeping Ubuntu running 24/7.
However, if you buy a system with all of that configured, with hardware that you know the OS will support, and when you run in to problems, you put your money where your mouth is and you replace parts that aren't compatible, then it'll go pretty smoothly for you. The OS is free, but you won't save money - if your really interested in making the switch, to get out from under Vista and the likes, you've got to do it - not just fiddle around with it and say 'Shucks! Why haven't they written a driver for my video card!! Those guys are teh lame!'
I'd rather use my computer too instead of figuring out obscure error messages and learning batch and how the file system is designed; but hell - I've decided i'm going to switch, and I'll be damned if it doesn't happen. - VinceNoir, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11@thesimpleone
I respect your position. But I have to counter what you said about it allowing you to do more. There is a lot that I couldn't do with Windows that ONLY Linux can provide. And best of all, I can do these things without needing to know how to code. That's what Linux had to offer me and it's one reason why I left the Windows world. The other was paying for tons of software updates. I bought Sony Vegas just about a year before I finally said "Enough!". I used it to edit video and it did an OK job. But I hated that fact that if I wanted to do more, I had to buy more software. I'm not made of money, so Windows isn't for me. And I absolutely oppose piracy. If these companies are asking to be paid for their software, they deserve the money they ask for no matter how outrageous. That's the way the game is played.
As a result, I moved to Linux and learned Cinelerra. Now I have all the functionality that Vegas provided me with, and I can always stay up to date with new versions and extra functionality as added, without having to break the bank. All it took was some time investment on my part. And before anyone brings up the tired old adage "your time is worthless if you think Linux is free"... The knowledge you gain in Linux is cumulative. The initial time spent learning things and setting up your system takes longer than it does to set up a comparable Windows system. But your more likely to still be running that SAME EXACT installation 5-7 years down the road with up to date software and the knowledge you've gained will allow you to more quickly and easily maintain your system. So basically, after the initial first few weeks/months (vs. Windows days/weeks), you're right back to where you were with Windows, only better since you are no longer financially obligated to anyone. The initial time investment to migrate to Linux (assuming that you don't have really specialized needs) more than pays you back in return in the long run. You need to take a long view. - SteveMax, on 10/11/2007, -7/+13Actually, if your distro has a reasonably large repository, you will just install things straight from whatever "software manager" it uses. That's really easy: go to "add/remove software", select what you want, click "install", done.
On Windows, there's no centralization. You'll need to go to www.winzip.com (or is it www.zip.com? Anyway, if you type the wrong address, there's a good chance that you'll get malware), download it, run the installer, click through a lot of "configurations", remove the installer. Then do the same for www.winrar.com (or rar.com? rarlabs.com?), and for firefox.com (oops, mozilla.org), openoffice.org, and so on.
How on Earth is the Windows way simpler?
[ok, if you use software that isn't on the repositories, you'll need more. But most software you need will be on the repositories, and you will probably get RPMs/DEBs for those that aren't. You just download them, click and install (no configurations involved). Still simpler than the Windows' installers. You'll have problems only for the ~0.01% that doesn't exist in packages, and even then it's not as hard as fixing a borked software uninstall on Windows, which happens more often.] - drakethegreat, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10The author suggests that people buy macs not Linux because they haven't heard of Linux. This is definitely true but if they don't know what Linux is then I don't think they should be running it... Seriously if they don't know enough to even recognize the alternative what makes the Linux people think its user friendly enough to run it?
Also 95% of people are more satisfied with windows then Linux users realize. They think that everyone who uses windows must hate it because they didn't like it. Your opinion is your opinion and if most people agreed with you then they probably would of been looking for your help. Don't be the computer nerd equivalent of a Mormon converter who shows up on people's doorsteps offering something they didn't want in the first place... - CGreen, on 10/11/2007, -21/+27The problem with Linux is that the problems with Linux never get fixed. The same problems that where there 8 years ago are still there today. And they will still be there tomorrow, the Linux developers just don't want to fix them.
- Nougat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6@MrUnderbridge (#6864370) said: "Regarding the 'People are satisfied with Windows' "myth" - it's more that people don't realize that other platforms don't suffer from the same problems they have. The average consumer believes it's normal for computers to gradually get slower over time before being replaced. They don't realize they've crapped it up with viruses and spyware. So we need a better education campaign."
And the re-education can start with the mainstream tech media. All too often, I see articles online, in print, even sent to my house as part of an American Express informational pamphlet - talking about phishing, viruses and spyware as though they are things that are just out there, waiting to get you, while you sleep, without any action required on the end user's part.
The fact is that 99% of these malicious pieces of software *require the end user to take some action:* opening an executable email attachment, installing an application from the internet just because a window popped up and said to do so, responding to an email asking for personal information.
The media needs to tell people that almost all of the badware out there can be completely disarmed by the end user *simply ignoring it* and *not installing every little crappy thing that comes along while they're browsing for porn.* - UKsHaDoW, on 10/11/2007, -0/+68 years ago? Hell the kernel was completely re-written in that time. I remember we all had re-write drivers because of the new kernel, and people get payed to update the kernel.
Companies that support the Linux kernel
IBM
RED HAT
NOVEL
SUN
and many more
All big companies. - Marthinus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8@eplawless
Well I have the total opposite experience than you. No hacks whatsoever to get my wireless working and I have been running Ubuntu exclusively for a year now. So maybe you had some bad luck, maybe you are a wannabe power user, which any IT tech support guy will tell you is the worst user possible.
Anyway whatever the case may be, enjoy Windows. I personally abhor Windows and every time I am forced to use it I am reminded how much I loath it. - flashingcurser, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I've used, and liked both Windows and Linux. But not all the programs I use are available in Windows. I know that there are alternatives but why switch if I'm satisfied?
They both have their pros and cons, the user will choose whichever one suits him. - VinceNoir, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@sacherjj
I spent the time to learn to use Cinelerra's features as well as Cinepaint (formerly FilmGIMP), ffmpeg, and Blender. Throw in a little Ardour for the audio work, and I can do nearly everything that I used to do in Vegas plus a whole lot more. Cinelerra has a great motion tracker plugin to steady wavering video shots as an example. All it took was an investment of time that was well spent. Now, it's just all become a part of my workflow and I can do things faster and with better results than I could in Vegas. I'm not saying it works for everyone. But for people who want more without having to pay for everything under the sun (that should just be part of the base applications), this is the way to go. I said goodbye to the upgrade fees and dongles from Cubase VST 24 as well and I welcome the freedom. - Altotus, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10There are two issues with your comment: first being the fallacy that hardware support for Linux is poor. Truth is that Linux comes with drivers for much more hardware than, say Windows XP SP2 - even if you don't hardware for hardware platforms not supported by Microsoft (such as Sun's network hardware). Most hardware is also far better supported. There's a relatively small amount of hardware that is not supported, but... this leads to the second issue with the comment...
Of the hardware that isn't supported or supported well, it's because there's no hardware specifications available for it anywhere. You can't simply write a driver for a 3D graphics accelerator without any documentation about the hardware programming specs for it. You need access to the specs, and vendors, particularly of high-end video cards, don't release them. If the hardware vendor explicitly does not want third parties writing drivers for their hardware, and even goes to the point of suing those that do (pointing a finger ar ATI), what are you to do? - Wyzard, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7@CGreen:
Clearly you don't mean that not a single bug has been fixed in Linux in the past 8 years, so you should explain what problems you have in mind so you don't come across as a troll. (Unless you are a troll, of course, in which case go away.)
@technopundit:
You never encounter technical problems with Windows? Never had a bug you couldn't fix? - underthewether, on 10/11/2007, -9/+14automatix does all the tricky java and flash installs for you
- tlarkin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I have been using linux for years, I also use Linux and OS X on a daily basis at work. I work IT for a school system and support both OS X and windows and have linux servers and desktops as well. This article is fluff if you ask me, and even though some of it is true, it is only really looked at in the end user opinion. Trying to integrate Linux in an enterprise level is hard, and many aspects of existing technology in your infrastructure do not work out of the box with Linux. We run eDirectory (novell) and trying to get the open source versions of Linux to work with the novell client is kind of like trying to figure out time travel. However, if you were to purchase a enterprise desktop license to a linux distro these things tend to work better, but not always out of the box.
Take SuSe Linux for example. Since we run novell servers at work I chose to run SuSe linux (OpenSuse - their open source version) which does not work with any novell products out of the box and trying to install the novell client is futile, because you get tons of dependency issues and the packages don't install properly. If you buy a license to SLED, their pay for distro of linux it works.
There are also many caveats to running open source distros. Why in the heck do some distros have like 4 package managers installed? Even though Linux has come a long way, and I really do enjoy using Linux, there are still lots of features to be desired in what a lot of us would consider the bonuses of using Linux. Technologies like Yast, rug, APT, YUM, etc that allow you to install apps and resolve all dependencies via BASH are great, but not perfect, and they need to be more reliable. Gnome and KDE both lack features that a user would want in a GUI. There is still no universal control panel for drivers, software, configurations like there is in OS X and in Windows. There are things like Yast Manager in SuSE, but again it is not quite as intuitive as it could be. I also hate how some man pages and read me files for linux assume you already know everything about that command, or about that function. A lot of times I find myself reading the man page for a command like 6 or 7 times before I get the syntax right, because there are either no examples given or the man page is very very simplified and doesn't explain all aspects.
Drivers are also an issue. ATI drivers suck big time. I could not get beryl to run on my ATI card for the freaking life of me. The times I got it to run, it would either shut down 3D acceleration or crash X. Wifi cards are also a huge problem driver wise, which is why they came up with the ndis wrapper to use windows drivers in linux. about a year and a half ago no debian distro was able to use my wifi card on my HP business class laptop because there was no driver support for that intel wifi card. Obviously with a laptop having wifi is a HUGE factor.
Linux is great, but not perfect, and if Linux wants to become a main stream OS used in homes and in businesses for the end user it has a bit ways to go. Linux for back bones and file servers work great. I use Linux boxes for file servers all over our network for many of the different computer labs. These things run in the background and no end user ever sees that its linux, only the IT staff know. - regeya, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5@betterth
"And these are the same people who make fun of all the Windows versions?!"
I don't know, are they? Provide links, please, otherwise I'm guessing you're either trolling or too lazy to look up facts to back up your hypocrisy claim.
People were calling "Linux" to task well before there were umpteen billion versions of Vista. Sorry, there never was a Linux 7.0, folks, get over it. - regeya, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The real problem is that manufacturers and kernel developers have completely different ideas about what "support" means. The Linux kernel devs don't want to provide a stable binary interface, and manufacturers don't want to provide source for drivers.
Both are to blame, yet both feel they have good reasons for their positions. Who has to budge first? My vote is for a binary interface; maybe FreeBSD could provide a stable binary interface and preemptible kernels? ;-) - thesimpleone, on 10/11/2007, -11/+15DeadBaby? Are you an abortionist as well?
By your comment "I love the idea of novices and morons running Windows while I am (relatively) safe in my ivory tower running OSX and Linux. ", you make it sound like all Windows users are morons. I enjoy using Windows. I am a 30yo computer tech, and use Windows XP for tech work as well as my video editing, and more. I really can't say I have been disappointed with windows whatsoever. I wouldn't eve switch to Linux, because it wouldn't make sense to me. I would switch to mac, ONLY for video editing, but prefer the Windows environment. I can do more with it. - Homunculiheaded, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6UrbanVoyeur,
I definitely agree. I'd been running strictly ubnutu for about 8 months, and I've recently built a pc that dual boots 7.04/Vista. Ubuntu is awesome, until it's not and then it goes straight to horrible. I remember restarting my laptop to find X had crashed, yes I eventually fixed it but it was an evening I had to spend figuring out what went wrong and then fixing it, all through just CLI. Now computers are something that i spend a lot of my time working with, and I enjoy learning more about them, so I don't really mind if I spend an evening trying to fix things, when I'm done I feel like I've really accomplished something. BUT if i were a casual user, this would be absolutely unacceptable.
Additionally somethings are stupidly more difficult in linux, like sharing folders over a windows network.
In Windows- right click, select share
In Ubuntu- download, install and configure samba server... again, I somewhat like the learning experience, but I was more frustrated because I just wanted to share a damn folder!
Additionally Vista does not suck nearly as much as XP, so I'm actually (much to my surprise) spending more time on my Vista partition than on my Ubuntu partition.
I ultimately prefer the *nix environment for any serious programming or technical work, but I'm thinking that in the long run I should save up for a macbook, where you can get the power of *nix with the usability of a mac. - YourMom1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6I switched from Vista to my first Linux install, Ubuntu Feisty Fawn, about a month ago.
I have had had way fewer problems getting software to work with Ubuntu than with Vista. Nothing works right with Vista and and he Synaptic Package manager has almost everything I need just a couple of clicks away.
Linux rocks, end of story. - thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Am I the only person that looks at the OS as just a piece of software? I mean, Windows is great fro some things, Mac is great for some things, Linux is great for some things, QNX is great for some things, BSD is great for some things, even BeOS is great for somethings.
In religion, Evangelism only works with people who already belive in what you are saying.... the same is true with computers.
Quit trying to find the OS that is the "ultimate solution" for everything and start trying to find the OS that's right for the given situation. -
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