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- falafelkiosken, on 09/10/2009, -1/+42why can't ADOBE fix Adobe Flash for Linux?
- lewkus, on 09/10/2009, -2/+38screw fast boot times what ubuntu needs is a hibernate that doesn't crash.
totally agree with the 'app store'. check out http://www.jolicloud.com they have very simple installs. great netbook OS. - phrstbrn, on 09/10/2009, -2/+22Linux will never be ready for the masses until it supports all of my favourite applications, such as Weatherbug and Bonzi Buddy.
- aychseven, on 09/10/2009, -8/+25five features to make ubuntu more like os x
*fixed - Shootfast, on 09/10/2009, -0/+16Well for point 1 there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareStore
- jackflap, on 09/10/2009, -10/+25new theme new theme new theme new theme
- tama00, on 09/10/2009, -1/+12They fixed it.
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?build ...
and i fail to see where they said it was better than Windows. - inactive, on 09/10/2009, -0/+10Maybe you should talk to the companies that make the games about that one. Unless you expect the Ubuntu team to port everything themselves, in which case you're hopeless.
- shrewduser, on 09/10/2009, -0/+9while they're at it ADOBE could fix flash for windows, it's pants on any platform.
- mashedup, on 09/10/2009, -2/+11'there's so many annoyances right from a default install' - Couldn't disagree more. Ubuntu installs in minutes and works incredibly well and very efficiently on a default install. Peoples personal annoyances often stem from lack of knowledge. Give it a try, if it doesn't work the way your brain works then don't use it.
- prompel, on 09/10/2009, -0/+9Actually, I'd like to see that in Windows, as well.
- theOster, on 09/10/2009, -1/+10i am so close to wishing that adobe didn't exist at all. camera RAW is about the only thing stopping me.
- spunker202, on 09/10/2009, -2/+10Great article but kinda late to post all those good ideas just less than 2 months before the next ubuntu version.
Could have written this 4 months ago, and let time to the Canonical dev thing smthg out and see what they pull up their sleeve.
My opinion :
1) Have the straight-out-of-the-box Linux mint efficency. ( codecs,hardware,...)
2) GTFO with Gimp, we need a simple "paint" like application. ( Gimp should be an apt-get install option, only if the user really wants to do advanced photo editing)
3) Need a simple default and powerful video editor. Windows movie maker clone
4) Include Vlc as standard media player. => This Totem is too obsolete ( both in functionalities and design)
5) Rythmbox could use a lil' functionalities update.
5) Gnome could use the Kde wallpaper manager/downloader.
6) Games ! But it's not Canonical's fault. To me, Linux still ins't for playing, Xp/7 is the gamer's OS. - CrimsonIdol, on 09/10/2009, -0/+8Switched to Linux Mint 7 yesterday and so far it's far better than Ubuntu. All my hardware (sound card included) worked perfectly upon install and so did flash. So far I have zero complaints.
- Spirods, on 09/10/2009, -9/+16Real pc Games!
- rangah, on 09/10/2009, -0/+6You really think that?
OpenGL seems to be good enough for the PS3.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_OpenGL_ ...
Now, please, explain what is so much better about directX. - JQP123, on 09/10/2009, -2/+8"Exactly which user group are we trying to impress here? The five year olds?"
Only you (and the developers) can answer this. Ideally, software should be as simple as possible ... but no simpler.
If you don't want "five year olds", that's your choice but don't complain when the "five year olds" choose a different system. - theaceoffire, on 09/10/2009, -0/+5And why wont Microsoft fix my printer!
- Ascus, on 09/10/2009, -1/+6I think you pretty much summed up where Ubuntu falls short for home user, but I thing even what is described is too much.
1) Correct, Most users have no idea what hardware they have.
2) Agree, Gimp, Is much to complicated to do simple sketching
3) Not to sure here, I think all that is needed is a tool to put music over a slide show with transition and text effects
4) Most people do not need Rythmbox, a Simple voice recorder is all that is needed.
5) Novices like being able to change colors and pictures easy. There should me more choices than plain brown and fancy brown. It should ship with at least 5 color themes ready for a quick swap.
6) Games, Games and more Games! Especially ones with serious eye candy.
My 7 & 8.
7) Get Google's Picasa into the stack, simple and great tool for sorting large volumes of home pictures
8) Get a "Tour of Ubuntu" app together that shows off the apps and functions that are available.
They need an Ubuntu Home Edition. The Ubuntu Desktop is to high end for many users - rolls20s, on 09/10/2009, -0/+5I assume you mean "new default theme?" You can get gnome themes that are very easy to install and look very slick or use Compiz+Emerald
- Myztry, on 09/10/2009, -0/+51. A commercial repository is a must have. Be it like Steam or whatever. While the current repositories are a brilliant resource, not provide incentive like the ring of a cash register.
2. An entry level old skool supported Basic language as an out for all those people stuck lamely using Office Suites for some of the most trivial low level tasks like sorting/filtering file data. It's a darn shame how inaccessible programming is to the general public these days.
3. A base level (but with GUI as default) Ubuntu distribution with a full plethora of virtual packages for one click tailoring to task categories (media, games, programming, web development, office environment, server, emulation/virtualisation, etc.) - rolls20s, on 09/10/2009, -0/+4Yes, support for gaming is the number-one issue that Windows has over Linux. Only reason I have an actual Windows install (dual-boot) at all anymore is just for the few remaining PC games that I play, I keep a VM of XP around in Linux for truly proprietary applications that just flat-out don't exist in any other form because they are so obscure, but I don't use it often.
However, I'm content with that setup, and would rather see other features implemented to make it more stable and more professional before they tackle major videogame support. In fact, they'd have to work on GPU drivers a bit more to even get to that point. - freeridstylee, on 09/10/2009, -0/+4Some good points, but video editing? Wouldn't that fall in the proposed app store somewhere?
- theaceoffire, on 09/10/2009, -0/+4Full Disk Encryption isn't asked for by the average user.
Indeed, if users found out "We can't get your files back until you remember your password", that might piss some of them off.
And if you want that, then using the alternate install will give you even more control over the process, which seems like a good thing. - gdonald, on 09/10/2009, -1/+4Eh? I have that now.
- Ascus, on 09/10/2009, -1/+4Problem is that few people have heard of Linux Mint 7. The main thing that is killing Linux is the fragmented user base. The Ubuntu initiative is a good one, not the best one, but very usable and they are very interested in expanding it.
I am a windows guy. I game Ubuntu Desktop a shot in a Virtualbox, by the end of the day, I had a virtual LAMP server running on that machine that allowed me to test my website before showing it to the public. No need to even be connected to internet to develop and test..
Ubuntu is not quite there for mainstream, but its real close. The only reason my mother does not us it, is because it does not play Bejewelled, She is perfectly happy with Open Office, FIrefox, and Thunderbird. - BaconOclock, on 09/10/2009, -0/+3I like mint for my desktop and laptop and when intalling linux on a friend's computer. It's really easy to set up, I don't need to install many packages I normally would with debian or ubuntu and I like how firefox is compiled with the backspace key to go back.
- jackflap, on 09/10/2009, -0/+3Yup, you're right. But with Windows 7 coming out, Ubuntu really needs a default theme that can compete.
I personally don't need much else from Ubuntu, just some gloss as a selling point to people I provide support for. - regeya, on 09/10/2009, -0/+3Hibernate seems to depend on your hardware.
If you're brave, you could give TuxOnIce a try. iirc there's a wiki entry on it. - Turious, on 09/10/2009, -0/+36. "Legacy" video drivers.
- InvincibleQ, on 09/10/2009, -0/+3"The only reason my mother does not us it, is because it does not play Bejewelled..."
There is actually a Gnome Bejewelled, had to install it for my grandmother. Try search "Bejewelled" under software manager. - TimtheTaxMan, on 09/10/2009, -3/+5I still think better support for gaming is their number one issue. Gaming is the only reason I'm still willing to pay for windows. While it’s true that some Linux, open source applications are not up to professional standards, it’s hard to justify the price difference for me at this point.
- Naidel, on 09/13/2009, -0/+2@shreduser
Agreed. I always hear how much flash suck on Linux compared to Windows, then I had to use Windows on my desktop computer for a week. I was surprised to see that it sucked just as much there, if not more. Flash's suckiness if cross-platform, heh. - johndavidjack, on 09/10/2009, -0/+2I honestly do not get the fast boot times complaining. I mean with 24 hours in a day, can one really be disappointed that a machine takes 1 minute to boot? Is there nothing else in life you can do but watch the boot up screen.
PS, yes I know what dual booting/etc is, but the point still stands. - abbathdoom, on 09/10/2009, -0/+2Is it just me or have Ubuntu started projects recently that address most of these 5 points? Eg. the App store.
- dilbert, on 09/10/2009, -0/+2Dual screen with ATI under 9.04
- DJWilsonX, on 09/11/2009, -0/+2I agree with the integrated dual boot and video editing software...
more importantly....get rhythmbox to work without having to install the codecs manually out of the box....and not making me install VLC to replace it - WolfHook, on 09/10/2009, -0/+2Jolicloud is very nice, I had it running on an Acer Aspire A150. It is a great step forward.
- CrimsonIdol, on 09/10/2009, -0/+2Not sure why you think that, I'm using mint 7 64 bit right now!
- trogdoor, on 09/10/2009, -0/+2* Fri Aug 07 2009 Kristian Høgsberg <krh@redhat.com> - 2.8.0-4
- Add dri2-page-flip.patch to enable full screen pageflipping.
Fixes XKCD #619.
lol - bedake, on 09/10/2009, -2/+4I love ubuntu's default theme.
- rangah, on 09/10/2009, -0/+2It's weird that xine and gstreamer and countless others have been able to do just fine with binary drivers and 'video related stuff'. "A new windowing system" is not going to do anything to increase adoption. "Great, awesome new windowing system, too bad I don't have any apps."
- RicktheBrick, on 09/10/2009, -1/+3I go to a lot of garage sales and often find windows software at bargain prices. But when I install them on either a xp or a vista computer most of them just fail to work as they were designed for either 95 or 98. I have National Geographic maps which is on 8 disc but will not work on either computer. Why dual boot when windows will not even try to keep old software running. I have several disc for the petz game none of which will run. I wonder how much software has been thrown away because of this.
- paulsmith288, on 09/10/2009, -1/+3hibernate works fine for me on 3 different machines.
- rangah, on 09/10/2009, -0/+2I don't understand if this is getting positive marks because so many people genuinely think a new theme is important - or if it's because it's hilarious that so many people think the default theme is what drives usage...
- lewkus, on 09/11/2009, -0/+1i've had ubuntu running on 3 pcs (laptop, netbook, desktop) and xp's hibernate works on all 3, all the time every time. ubuntu's is slow, clunky and tends to crash or freeze the pc more often than what its worth to use.
hibernate is where its at. why boot up your computer daily when you can just hibernate all your running apps overnight and go back to where you were the next day? - oobuntu, on 09/11/2009, -0/+1@cyber2uall
you can always learn by booting with an ubuntu live cd that doesn't touch what's on your hard drive. - cyber2uall, on 09/10/2009, -0/+1I would quickly jump into Linux if I knew that it would be able to jump me to the web to learn how to use it effectively. I like having the book open as I learn. Reading about it beforehand does little for me; it doesn't make me confident enough that I will be learning as I go. I already know as an OS it loves typed commands where windows is happy to make most things point and click. I suppose that's the point though isn't it? If you're going to be apart of the Linux team, you better be willing to take a risk.
- InThePants, on 09/10/2009, -0/+1Missing "not looking like a turd that the 20th century crapped out"
- YourNameHere1, on 09/11/2009, -0/+1- "I already know as an OS it loves typed commands where windows is happy to make most things point and click."
Ubuntu is more of a "point-and-click" Linux distro than most of the other Linux distros, it's very beginner friendly (especially the beginner section of the Ubuntu Forums).
You can still use the 'command line interface', or manually edit your conf files, but what Ubuntu is really about is a nice GUI interface to do most of that for you (they have like 5 different package managers, gconf, and some other gui configuration tools).
As for "liking the book open as you learn", try this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty
Read this part first, then skim over everything else: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#General_ ...
Another good beginner guide is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
Anything else can be answered in the Ubuntu Forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=326 -
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