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- adderx99, on 12/29/2008, -3/+105"...In ext4, the theoretical maximum filesystem size has been increased to 1 exabyte and the 32,000 limit on the number of subdirectories that can be contained in any given directory has been eliminated...."
...Damn...to give you an idea of how big this is...
"One exabyte is the equivalent of about 50,000 years of DVD quality video." and "A popular expression claims that "all words ever spoken by human beings" could be stored in approximately 5 exabytes of data" --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exabyte
also, good work guys, only 78 days since the last major release :D thats why linux rocks. http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_kernel_2_6_27_off ...
now im off to go recompile my kernel... - domenics, on 12/29/2008, -2/+80"It doesn't really matter what day it is, or what holiday (if any) you're celebrating, because even if you sit at home, alone in your dank basement, without any holidays or friends, I bring you a tiding of great cheer: you can now download Linux-2.6.28, and compile it to your hearts content"
There's something so realistically sad about this. Then again, I'm on Digg at 3am. - DrivinWest, on 12/29/2008, -6/+81Don't you mean Ubuntu kernel?
/sarcasm - inactive, on 12/29/2008, -1/+54Dugg for the brutal realism in Torvalds' message.
- theOster, on 12/29/2008, -2/+44what other linux is there?
/troll - mikembley, on 12/29/2008, -3/+42Windows
/retard - inactive, on 12/29/2008, -2/+39freebsd
/joke - adderx99, on 12/29/2008, -0/+321,000,000,000,000,000 bytes = 1 petabyte
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes = 1 exabyte
thats a lot of zeros... - inactive, on 12/29/2008, -1/+33Fedora
/fanboy - Stonekeeper, on 12/29/2008, -1/+32SCO linux
/lol - inactive, on 12/29/2008, -13/+37damn, that's alot of porn it could hold.
- mikelieman, on 12/29/2008, -0/+24You don't get "User Experience" until you bundle the kernel with a distribution. At that point, the kernel is surrounded by system code, a "Window Manager" and then graphical applications.
For example, in Fedora 10, they used some new system code, and what it does is preload the disk cache buffers with all the data from the other required programs, meaning that boots happen on the order of 30 seconds.
The kernel itself provides the underpinning for these other enhancements, so patience grasshopper -- all will be revealed in due time. - abbathdoom, on 12/29/2008, -4/+27People always talk about Shuttleworth being good for Linux because he is a charismatic speaker, but Linus is always super entertaining even when filing bug reports and doing messages on mailing lists. He makes me lol.
- Ouze, on 12/29/2008, -3/+25in before wireless drivers
- FreddieD, on 12/29/2008, -1/+18I'm going to stick with ReiserFS because it makes me feel like a cold blooded murderer.
- honkey07, on 12/29/2008, -3/+19I guess I don't understand all the whimpering from the Ubuntu crowd about having to wait for a future release...why can't you simply download, configure, and compile it yourselves if you'd rather use 2.6.28 now? It's not exactly rocket science.
- lowtolerance, on 12/29/2008, -1/+17i read somewhere years ago that the internet contains approximately 1 petabyte of unique data. i'm sure that's expanded quite a lot over the last few years, but i wonder if it's less than an exabyte.
- rowjimmy, on 12/29/2008, -1/+16fyi,
for debian/ubuntu users - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
for fedora users - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/CustomKernel
gentoo users i'm assuming you already know how to do this - jamesmcm, on 12/29/2008, -0/+15You can't use ZFS with GNU/Linux.
The standard is ext3 (will be 4). You don't need to do any research but it doesn't need defragmentation, etc. - korvins, on 12/29/2008, -1/+16I was wondering if ext4 brought any improvement for SSDs. Article does not mention it, however in:
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_28
SSD word appears several times:
- Support discard requests on SSD devices to improve wear-leveling (commit 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)
- Add queue flag for SSD/non-rotational devices (commit)
- Set queue SSD flag for SSD devices
I am not sure what that means in practice, but it is nice to see they are already making adapting to new technologies. - CATSCEO2, on 12/29/2008, -1/+15Kinda off topic, but when is MS going to come out with a next-gen filesystem?
UNIX has ZFS
GNU/Linux has ext4
Windows has old ass NTFS - mikelieman, on 12/29/2008, -0/+14I guess you *could* always download, compile and install the actual kernel package itself...
- douggmc, on 12/29/2008, -5/+18Ubuntu Christian Edition
/ridiculous - inb4nou, on 12/29/2008, -0/+13Red Flag
/communism - Krissam, on 12/29/2008, -1/+13pft file extentions are soo last century
- inactive, on 12/29/2008, -0/+12I would say ext4 is a great addition for user experience.
Experience a corrupted drive sometime! - CATSCEO2, on 12/29/2008, -1/+12OpenSolaris
/huh - mvent2, on 12/29/2008, -0/+11GEM is just a framework for graphics drivers to use. So it needs no configuration but it will require the driver programmers to implement support for GEM in their drivers.
- charlietuna, on 12/29/2008, -2/+13Linus should rename ext4 to pr0nfs
- JQP123, on 12/29/2008, -1/+12"It's not exactly rocket science."
It's not exactly rocket science to estimate the odds that the average user can do this without significant issues is low. - zwaldowski, on 12/29/2008, -0/+11You won't. The kernel is drop-in. Don't be afraid (I would)... there are some tutorials on the Ubuntu Forums. Just search for "kernel" in the "Tutorials and Tips" forum.
- earthforce1, on 12/29/2008, -1/+11Linux runs on huge mainframes with racks of storage that actually do need what you would think to be insane.
- groceryheist, on 12/29/2008, -0/+10Although NTFS has been around for ages, it has undergone a lot of revision and improvement without changing the name, only the version number. NTFS 3.1 is the latest version and was released with XP, but was improved in Vista.
But by no means is the Vista file system"next-gen" - hydr, on 12/29/2008, -1/+10QNX
/:) - jamesmcm, on 12/29/2008, -0/+9I think the ATI open-source drivers already have an incomplete implementation that should be finished soon.
As for the proprietary drivers (like Nvidia's only ones), you'll just have to beg them. - rowjimmy, on 12/29/2008, -1/+9i'm waiting excitedly for that day too.
or at least for the day that somebody reverse-engineers a gnu/zfs. - dremspider, on 12/29/2008, -0/+8Yes, kids these days, I remember when we had to compile our kernels and we liked it to! I remember the days of Gentoo and spending literally days to compile KDE and all of the apps around it. Young whipper snappers!
In all honesty the kernel isnt that hard to compile yourself. I think that anyone who wants to do with Linux for a job or is in CS, etc needs to do it at least a few times. The kernel is actually one of the easier things to do (as opposed to higher level apps with tons of dependencies). The hard part is knowing what modules you need, but even that isnt that hard if you are careful and take your time. Also if you mess it up, it is easy to revert back if you don't delete the old kernel.
It is not hard once you get the hang of it, and if you consider yourself a Linux pro then you need to do it once. With all that said I haven't done it in a few years. I now rely on RPMs/DEBs. I would never ever use a custom compiled kernel for a client either. - Almightymole, on 12/29/2008, -0/+8The article stated that only Intel cards will only take advantage of GEM for now, NVIDIA and ATI cards support is in progress.
- denimhead, on 12/29/2008, -2/+9ubuntu
- tushyd, on 12/29/2008, -2/+9not everyone uses ubuntu...
- MrViklund, on 12/29/2008, -0/+7There is no need to convert. Ext3 is fine.
- celkin, on 12/29/2008, -3/+10OSX
/douche - latrosicarius, on 12/29/2008, -0/+7no this will save the universe one day
- jvincent08, on 12/29/2008, -0/+7For all the Ubuntu users complaining about waiting for the next release to include this kernel:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
Just change the version numbers accordingly. - moghua, on 12/29/2008, -0/+7Unless you actually need the new features or want to play around and learn something new, I wouldn't recommend it. That said, here's a good guide to understanding and using ext4 (including how to convert ext3):
http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4 - randumbusername, on 12/29/2008, -0/+6don't get it. i've lost all faith in seagate (for now). i've been burned on two (1.5tb). am sending back another two now. im going with western digital for now until seagate can get it's qa back on track.
when a brand new drive starts clicking and clacking fresh out the bubble wrap something is wrong. - CATSCEO2, on 12/29/2008, -0/+6ZFS isn't available for linux (but I heard rumors awhile back of someone trying to port it). ZFS is only used in (Open)Solaris, Nexenta, FreeBSD, and OS X Server.
- lacronicus, on 12/29/2008, -0/+6First off, winfs is dead.
Second, winfs lies on top of NTFS, and so wouldn't be a "next gen filesystem" even if it weren't dead. - yevkasem, on 12/29/2008, -0/+6i just recompiled a 2.6.28 kernel, but i'm still using reiserfs (how's that for lack of insight, i thought he'd be acquitted).
now i have to wait for 2.6.29, so i can use the new intel driver and KMS. -
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