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- daftman, on 03/19/2008, -8/+118So instead of attacking cnet's argument, you attack cnet. Ad hominem? It's like me saying your opinion means ***** because you are a dick. You might get the mob to agree with you but you haven't done anything to disprove their statement.
Firefox 3 uses less memory than all the major browsers, scores the highest acid3 points, has the fastest javascript parse time, and have plugins like firebug.
Yes, and I know about nightly Webkit. But until it is in the latest browsers, it doesn't really matter to most people.
Sources:
http://blog.pavlov.net/2008/03/11/firefox-3-memory ...
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1470&page=2 - psycoticparrot, on 03/19/2008, -4/+61Im using the FF3 beta 4 right now to type this...I have noticed it is much faster(especially on digg), however i prefer FF2's UI
- Lick, on 03/19/2008, -11/+62LOL. Flock.
- khail250, on 03/19/2008, -90/+137cnet means dick.. its like searching on lycos, or infoseek
- MasterThief117, on 03/19/2008, -4/+46I would use it, but as of now there is little addon compatibility with this version.
- DannoSpeaks, on 03/19/2008, -3/+44Seems a little premature on all accounts.
- Mrdudeperson, on 03/19/2008, -2/+36I'm just happy that they fixed a lot of the memory issues in firefox 3.
- johanm, on 03/19/2008, -8/+41best of ALL the 4 browsers that just came out!
- mrection, on 03/19/2008, -3/+29Your wording is too funny -> "I'd say there's more ignorant PC users than there are Mac users."
I agree, there are likely more ignorant PC users than there are Mac users total. However, I'd say that the percentage of Mac users who are ignorant is greater than the percentage of PC users who are ignorant *grin*. - Acronym, on 03/19/2008, -7/+33lulz my beta build just froze up while digging this
- Jarasmen, on 03/19/2008, -7/+33That's cool, but I'm still waiting for that Opera 9.5 final
- mywhitenoise, on 03/19/2008, -13/+39I have a Mac (been using them for more than 10 years) and I ***** hate Safari.
- stoanhart, on 03/19/2008, -1/+24Acid3 isn't the only metric of how good a browser is. To most people, it's probably the least significant. All of the major browsers will most likely pass it relatively soon, now that the "standards compliance race" is on.
- bmonet, on 03/19/2008, -2/+24yes
- transfuse, on 03/19/2008, -0/+20So download a Firefox 2 theme.
There'll surely be one out there somewhere. - inactive, on 03/19/2008, -9/+29This comes as a surprise to no one. The only thing I'm surprised about is the fact CNet is actually still around...
- skyshock1, on 03/19/2008, -4/+23Latest build of Opera scores a 77/100. Just sayin'.
- NyteStarNyne, on 03/19/2008, -6/+24Jesus H Christ... I can't believe you just brought up Lycos. My haed esplode with nostalgia.
- tech10171968, on 03/19/2008, -8/+25Seems a little early to start rating these browsers since at least two of them (IE8 and Opera 9.5) are still in beta. Why don't we just wait until all of them are in final release stage and THEN compare them?
- kss42, on 03/19/2008, -0/+161) The Gecko/Firefox dev team has an active tracking bug and spreadsheet for the Acid3 test, and the latest builds of Firefox keep scoring higher and higher. It's only a matter of time before FF scores a 100.
2) The Acid3 test was designed such that every browser would fail it; it uses obscure and arcane JavaScript "standards" which no web developer in their right mind would ever rely on. The only real benefit of a high Acid3 score right now is bragging rights.
3) A 75 (or 93 or whatever) is not the same as a 100. A website which is foolish enough to use unsupported standards will fail to run, without discrimination, on Safari, and Firefox, and everything else.
4) Performance, usability, and feature set are all that should matter to end users; standards compliance is really only important to site designers and the browser developers themselves. Firefox leads in every category that really matters to 95% of the populace.
Don't worry about Acid3 numbers. Give Firefox 3 a try, it's the best browser I've ever used. - mdoom, on 03/19/2008, -0/+16Not sure why the comments about Safari 3.1 are getting dugg down so low...it just was released today. And it is a lot faster! Its amazing. I messed around with the beta for a few months, but have been waiting for a full release from Apple before truely using it. I've been using FF 3 beta 4 exclusively, but I think I might be using Safari 3.1 for awhile now. At least until FF goes public release of 3.
- jamend, on 03/19/2008, -2/+17And Safari 3.1 (final) scores 75.
- daftman, on 03/19/2008, -4/+19the keyword is "LIKE".
- scottybea, on 03/19/2008, -3/+18lol you didnt even read the article did you? Firefox BETA 4
- fredmv, on 03/19/2008, -2/+16Firefox was always superior to IE even back when it was called Phoenix in the pre-1.0 days. Gecko is just the superior engine. Not exactly breaking news. KHTML is just `ok' and Presto (Opera) is quite good. But IE has always been nothing more than a joke.
- Brad324, on 03/19/2008, -8/+22they have the internet on macs now?
- vawksel, on 03/19/2008, -6/+20I wonder how it compares to the new 3.1 Safari that Apple just released.
- Dustmuffins, on 03/19/2008, -1/+14IE 6 gets a 4/100...
- daftman, on 03/19/2008, -14/+27Actually, you can't really upgrade a Mac. Can I upgrade my Mac CPU? From a PPC to Intel? Or from Intel to a better AMD?
The only things you can upgrade Mac are just peripherals. - saleem, on 03/19/2008, -1/+13actually if im out and about to buy a new digital camera or printer or the like, YES, i do check the cnet review.
- mywhitenoise, on 03/19/2008, -8/+20You can't upgrade from PPC to Intel, but you can install different hard drives, additional ram, and replace the video card. Many people believe you can't do that on a Mac.
- inactive, on 03/19/2008, -1/+12But for the love of God, don't enable filterset.g
- Mejogid, on 03/19/2008, -4/+14For me personally, Safari is too unstable (and with no particular trigger for this) and crashes at least a few times every week - this has actually got worse since the upgrade to Leopard/Safari 3. It also locks up worse when loading pages than Firefox 3 does, and on a slow connection Safari's pause before even starting to render a page is annoying. Safari now performs slower on most javascript sites, and while it has a more native feel in certain areas (rounded contextual menus, services, inactive window states) the GUI no longer feels more responsible and isn't themable. That's completely discounting the tonnes of useful extensions available for firefox.
- iofthestorm, on 03/19/2008, -0/+10Filterset g sucks, use easylist. I think g causes memory leaks and stuff, has more false positives and is updated less often. Also, ABP is usually updated for all nightlies of Firefox since so many nightly testers use it. It's one of the better extensions in terms of nightly compatibility. Tab Mix Plus is another good one, and if an extension refuses to install/enable you can always try setting extensions.checkCompatibility to false in about:config.
- phinn, on 03/19/2008, -0/+10Your kidding right? I just ran it with Firefox 3 beta 4 (and i have 6 tabs open) and I got 269 ms
- hotdamn, on 03/19/2008, -13/+23Acid 3 Test says otherwise.
http://acid3.acidtests.org/
Recent version of Safari (3.1) gets 75, the nightly gets 93 even.
I don't remember the exact score of ff3, beta 4, but I know it's lower. - ledzep19752000, on 03/19/2008, -4/+14Vista does suck!
- jemka, on 03/19/2008, -3/+13Marketing 101.
- skyshock1, on 03/19/2008, -3/+13You're right. Who cares whether or not a web browser displays web pages properly. Forecast Fox to tells you what temperature it is currently outside your window. THAT's what I consider important in a web browser.
- SPThom, on 03/19/2008, -1/+111) Sluggish? I'm not seeing that.
2) "Giant" back button is a design assumption that it's used more than any other button. I hate large buttons in general... If you customize and choose "small icons", this HUGE button goes away.
3) I've heard LOTS of people say they wish Firefox (and Camino) looked more like Safari. IMO the news skin looks much better than Safari. Going back to Firefox on my work PC is mildly depressing, this new version is so slick on the Mac. - ljkelley, on 03/19/2008, -1/+10Not to mention the products are not final release... you know you have your opinion preset when you judge browsers based on beta.
- mirwoj, on 03/19/2008, -2/+10Yep. You buy DVDs with Internet on them.
- rpark, on 03/19/2008, -1/+9I know, it sucks that this article is outdated the second it became "popular".
- saleem, on 03/19/2008, -4/+12is adblock plus on FF3 beta yet??
- mdoom, on 03/19/2008, -1/+9I just got a 68/100 with FF3 beta 4
- MacPPC, on 03/19/2008, -2/+9Well to be sure, CNet compares the latest firefox beta against Safari 3, instead of a nightly webKit build, which would be the safari beta.
- PsychoticDude85, on 03/19/2008, -0/+7Seems like it's starting to happen. Web Dev Toolbar is now FF3 compatible, there are firebug and fireftp releases with support for 3. I'm hoping we'll see more in time - but it's the main ones I use so I've made the change.
- SPThom, on 03/19/2008, -3/+10The Fx3 default theme on Windows kinda blows... It's REAL slick on OS X though. Wish they'd borrow some design elements from the Mac version to put back in the Windows side.
- newbill123, on 03/19/2008, -0/+7There is a small group of people (like my old boss) who religiously follow the droppings of self-proclaimed IT insiders, press, and research groups. They've been invited to the exclusive parties thrown by Conde Naste, Cnet, et al after filling out surveys and claiming inflated responsibility for numbers of computers and budget dollars. They don't get their news and insight from Digg or Reddit but from following these articles, summary reports, and research papers before going out for their afternoon golf game.
The significance is that, in the past, if a product had Microsoft as it's maker, it usually came out at the top of these recommendations. For whatever reason, the fact that Firefox is at the top of CNet's heap may influence a small group of very powerful people. The debate about whether Cnet is still relevant today is another matter, but to a small group of folks it is still very relevant and very influential. - phinn, on 03/19/2008, -6/+13Your running IE7 over FF3? LOL
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