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- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Nice, lets get some hacked drivers for KisMac
- fuzzie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This has worked wonderfully for me, for over a day of use now.
You'll need a recent kernel (newer than 2.6.15-rc1, I think), and softmac (from softmac.sipsolutions.net). Code is in subversion for bcm43xx, and in some weirder source code management system for softmac.
Compile softmac first, install it, then compile bcm43xx, install it, then modprobe bcm43xx into the kernel, bring the new ethernet interface up, set the channel/essid using iwconfig ('iwlist ethX scan' should show the available wireless networks and their essid/channel details), set the bitrate to 11M (iwconfig ethX 11M) and then hope it works. - Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2To those of you who keep citing NDISwrapper, keep in mind that only works for x86 hardware. On Powerbooks and iBooks, you couldn't just use NDISwrapper with Windows drivers, it didn't work with Mac OS X drivers.
I held off on buying a new Powerbook because I couldn't use Linux with WiFi (unless I got a compatble PCMCIA card for the 15/17" models). Now with Intel Mac laptops on the horizon (which will support NDISwrapper), I dunno if this is a blessing or "too little, too late".
Oh well, DUGG because I've been wating a long time for this too. - manfesto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@kissthering
If you're talking about passive-mode Airport Extreme drivers for KisMac, the development versions have actually had such drivers for a while - quite handy. - freeed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@drn666: no they probably will not be arrested under *any* US act as they do not seem to be American. Unless some companies' opinion, US laws are not valid anywhere else than in the US ;)
- liava, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@signal15
Yes, the card can be put into monitor mode pretty easily. It looks like it's a single bit in the mmap'ed region of the card. I don't know if/when the driver will support that, though. Of course, we could be wrong, since this is going only by what is in the ioctl code of the card. We won't know until somebody tries it.
Actually, take a look here:
http://bcm-specs.sipsolutions.net/StatusBitField
The bit for setting promiscuous mode is in the spec. - altgenetics, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Damn, I guess this means I have to remind myself how to compile from source in Linux....ehhh it'll be a nice change of pace. It'd be nice to find a nice packaged binary though.
- ravuya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Excellent. Been looking for an excuse to get more mileage out of my Linux partition on my Powerbook.
- jdrivein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It still needs development, as soon as it supports 801.11g, I'll add Debian GNU/Linux in dual boot on my PB.
I hope it will be real soon... - aaronmarks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This has been around for a while. I'm not sure how much new progress there actually has been. I'll wait for it to support 802.11g before I seriously start considering Linux a viable alternative for a PowerBook/iBook. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me though to run Linux on an Apple laptop when you already have Tiger. Tiger can do just about anything that you could want to do with Linux; not to mention that you get a much nicer gui with Apple. OS X is near-perfect for day to day use.
- jcollins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is great. I've hesitated using Linux on my PowerBook several times because I couldn't use the built-in Airport Extreme. Now if Ubuntu PPC just picks up this driver and includes I'm all set.
That said I don't really want to use Linux on my PowerBook but it's nice every so often if I want to try something in Linux and don't have my work computer available. - *narf*, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1broadcomm wireless has worked fine for me for ages with ndiswrapper.. had no problems at all.
- gorkish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Kismac has supported passive mode on the Airport Extreme since August. See here for the first announcement: http://www.freelists.org/archives/kismac/08-2005/msg00034.html
- stewacide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't see where the project page linked to mentions this. Here's an article however: http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20051205195525114
I'd be great for someone to write a tutorial for how to get this working. - Kvetch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is great news.
I also agree with kissthering - we need some KisMac drivers. - lowesch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Heard about the CPU architechture called PPC ?
- fuzzie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1stewacide: The driver now works, to some extent, whereas before it wasn't useful at all. That seems like a pretty big change to me..
*narf*: That isn't a possibility for those of us on powerpc, such as everyone with Airport Extreme; and a lot of people have reliability issues with ndiswrapper, or it just not working at all. - alterself, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0inspiron 8600 + broadcom wireless + gentoo + ndiswrapper = technically working.
a native driver sounds better to me though. (kismet anyone?) :D - jdong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Very awesome... I don't own a broadcom myself, but know many other friends with Broadcom Wifi-G cards... and NDisWrapper isn't too stable for them.
- jdgiotta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's what I'm talking about.
- Tufriast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pretty big step in the right direction! Congrats to the crew involved! One more step to shoving it in the face of the man.
- coolgeek61813, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1finally i can use the dell TrueMobile 1300 i have laying around
- SenatorPenguin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@manfesto
Hopefully they will now come up with injection drivers for the Extreme on KisMAC. - *Legion*, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Of course there's an Airport Extreme driver, now that I don't have a Powerbook anymore!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0YES !!!!!! YES !!!!! YES!!!! The Mac Mini gets linux today!
- drn666, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0+digg for attempting to make an open driver.
++digg for the fact that the authors will likely all be imprisoned under the DMCA. Way to take one for the team, lads. - Liam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Ummm.... does it work?
It says it's an attempt, no indication of the status of the project. - rincebrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What a lot of people don't notice is that those relabeled Broadcom miniPCI cards that other major manufacturers are stuffing into their laptops are, by and large, bcm43xx cards, so they should be supported eventually with this driver. :)
I have an ipw2200, myself, but this is good news for everyone who doesn't. - xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0well it isn't the final full featured driver but it's a giant step in the right direction. I am very happy about this as I would like to dual boot my powerbook once the driver is complete.
- signal15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I didn't see monitor mode anywhere in the spec. Does anyone know if they figured out how to put the card into monitor mode? This is required for passively sniffing wireless traffic and gathering IV's to execute WEP cracking. In addition, the Apple provided driver does not allow you to change the MAC address of the card through ifconfig. This is useful for taking over someone else's connection on a captive gateway (T-mobile hotspots, Sprint WiFi, etc)
If they figured this out, it would be nice if they ported the driver to OS X so us OS X using security professionals could stop carrying around a separate laptop or a USB wifi adapter. I'm curious what chipset they are planning on using on the new Intel based laptops. Apple is making major inroads into corporations via IT guys who want the flexibility and stability of a unix platform, but need MS Office and Exchange compatibility. Adding any feature which appeals to the geeks only serves to help them further because the geeks are the ones making or influencing buying decisions. - Numbski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For those saying "Kismac drivers", what you're saying is you want passive mode. :) Same here. Dugg.
- 3fingersalute, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0OK, I have a Dell Inspiron 5150, trying to run Mandriva 2006 to learn linux a bit. Last time I loaded Linux on this was almost 2 years ago, and I gave up as there was no support for the Dell TrueMobile 1300 wireless card it has. So here I am, thought maybe I'd try linux on it again since its been so long (thinking by now there would most certainly be support for my card), and I still can't get the bloody thing to work. I've tried the windows driver with the ndiswrapper thing that Mandriva has in it, but it keeps erroring that no device supporting the ndiswrapper is present.
Anybody able to tell me how to get this thing working correctly? - I'm not a total n00b to linux, but I'm still pretty green. Thanks in advance. - FredB7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How comes some of you are happy with "open authentication 801.11b (read: 11mbit speeds) networks"
open authentification?
801.11b?
I'll stay on OS X, thanks.
To be honest, I'll stay on OS X anyway. ;-) - dkoolaid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wake me when it works with kismac
- launchpadtt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've been using ndiswrapper for my broadcom stuff forever too without problems. But this is a great development though nonetheless.
- blackphiber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html
been waiting about 2 years for this... great day... - manfesto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@signal15
check out gorkish's post - KisMac 0.2a R75 has a passive mode (or monitor mode) driver for the airport extreme cards that does work quite well (though it is in its alpha stages, I've been using it for a few months without a problem).
Perhaps they should attempt to port their passive driver to Linux. - skwhirl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've been through all of this with the Broadcomm chipset, and even dared to reflash it, which gave it 'promiscuous mode' (multiple MAC address handling) capability to become an AP or bridge.
- craigtheguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Doesn't impact me as I only boot my Macs using OS X, but this will help going forward especially for the upcoming MacIntels.
- n8gray, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@aaronmarks: Funny, the only reason I'm considering switching to Linux on my PowerBook is annoyances in the OS X gui, specifically the window manager. It's unusably awkward to navigate the gui with the keyboard and using the mouse is annoying because of OS X's fsked up acceleration curve and lack of focus-follows-mouse mode. There might be a couple of apps I would miss when switching, but not many. At least Firefox acts like a native app under Linux, if such a thing can be said to exist...
- stewacide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've been watching and waiting on this project for a while (as an iBook owner). But nothing appears to have changed: drivers are not yet complete...
- kidlinux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is great and will be awesome once all the functionality has been implemented in the driver. In the meantime, has no one heard of ndiswrapper?
It lets you use Windows wireless drivers in Linux, and it works great.
Check it: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ - peerk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1The Dell Wireless 1350 works with NDIS wrapper.
- sigsev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Great thing!
- AhronZombi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0hey where is the souirce download?
- penguindude15, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Why not use a mac? if you are going to buy an apple product you should buy the mac
- CotP_DoM, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Sweet Jesus yes. I've been in need of this driver for ages. Now I can use my wireless chip on my laptop while running Linux.
- t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0w00t!
Not very much progress, but some at least. Keep up the good work. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Why are you linux/open source fanboys supporting closed-box proprietary Apple? Give your $$$ to someone who cares about you.
- gunnmjk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0YES! YES! YES!
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