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- lava, on 10/12/2007, -1/+69If the version after Gusty Gibbon isn't Hungry Hippo I'm going to be really dissapointed.
- lava, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44it could have been Fruit *****.
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -5/+44Why isn't it automated? Seems kind of silly to make it a several-step process when it's something virtually anybody trying or using the software in tandom with Windows is going to want.
- oracle1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33you can do this on any linux distro by installing ntfs-3g.
- unknownsoldierX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25Huh? I just did a fresh install, and without doing anything, all my NTFS partitions were mounted automatically.
I'm not ready to completely switch from Windows, but this is the first install of Ubuntu (or any distro) that got everything installed and working without me having to do anything. - hyperfocal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15They can't call it Hungry Hippo -- people would think it was Vista.
- streetscream, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15It could have been much worse:
Fairy Fruit
Furry Fig
Fudge Forcer
Finger Food
Fat Fanny
Feathery Fart
...And that's without using the most obvious F words - rayray14, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@treed
Can you elaborate? Why is it weird? - M4v3R, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Er... it IS automated. I guess You didn't even try to mount NTFS partitions a year ago - MUCH more steps.
Also, I, for one, don't have any Windows partitions, so for me it is useless, easy or not. - unknownsoldierX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@jsully
Ugh. You're right. No write support. This is the first time Ubuntu has auto-mounted my drives for me, so I just assumed. - reha, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13have alook at this nice and easy guide for NTFS in feisty fawn http://www.ubuntugeek.com/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite-support-made-easy-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
- trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Feisty Fawn is just a development codename, "Ubuntu 7.04" is the official name, I personally prefer calling it Feisty though :)
- jsully, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13unknownsoldier - can you verify that they're read/write? NTFS partitions have been readable and as such auto mounted for some time now, but writing is a whole different story. That said, I've been using NTFS-3G for some time now, and it works quite well.
Be aware however that apps like Nautilus etc do not properly delete things from NTFS partitions, since they aren't built to use the windows style recycle bin. If you delete something from a filemanager it creates another directory and puts the "deleted" files in there. - jcaino, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10all i need is read access - copy the stuff over from my old NTFS partition and then wipe that partition...
- manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8ntfs-3g (which is used in this) has been ported to the Mac, but step with caution:
http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/ - schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -18/+25It's funny/sad that a commercial pakcage made its debut last month. It offers exactly the same features, but it's not free. I can't recall its name, but a few uninformed people will probably pay to access NTFS partitions.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Alright, then, if we're skipping H (already done), I vote for "Intrepid Iguana". While "Inescapable" may sound neat, that sounds kind of odd. Intrepid would fit better with the adjectives used thus far, in my humble opinion.
- Leomarth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I'm already liking this less than EE. I've had to take several more steps to get this up and running. And my video driver isn't correct yet either. Keeps saying there is an apt error when I try to install the new one.
- treed, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I've experienced problems with it. No data loss thus far, but the directory tree is ... weird.
- CrucifiedEgo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Dugg for the sole fact that OP linked to the actual page on the wiki with no multi-layer blogspam. Bravo. Also, I didn't know about this last night, but my old trick of apt-get install ntfs-3g and manually editing /etc/fstab worked like a charm in feisty as well.
- trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Read support has been available for years
- Disease, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Also Linux Mint
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5When will Windows get ResierFS suppport. We can write to all Windows partitions but it can't write to ***** all else.
- pivovy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Although ntfs-3g was tested and considered to be stable, folks on forums still report crashes, instability and especially high usage of system resouces.
Is it gonna survive something like uTorrent/wine that writes to ntfs partition? - jackhole, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You can always specify ro in fstab.
- BlackAle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I think it was BabelLinux, which is just a customized Ubuntu... http://www.babeldisk.com/
- richbradshaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4try System/Restricted Drivers. Envy isn't supported in Feisty yet.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The fake deleting is a big issue. In the directory root there will be a folder called .Trash-$USERNAME naturally replacing $USERNAME with your login username. The problem is this doesn't work with the normal GNOME trash applet on my desktop so you will have to delete it manually from that directory in order to free the space. Stupid I know.
- TheWriteGuy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Give Envy a shot to see if it can get your video card running (Alberto is da man!):
http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html - theonewho, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You can write to ntfs drives with the method described in the article. And if you want the classic text install then you need to download the alternate install cd and not the desktop cd. Just go to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and make sure to click the "Check here if you need the alternate desktop cd suited for computers with less than 256MB of RAM" box.
- zodo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually, it appears that the linked Envy site has a Feisty package, it's been up since yesterday. (I haven't tried it though)
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3In a word, yes. I've had uTorrent running on Wine writing to an NTFS partition. I've even had it shared between uTorrent in Ubuntu and XP. There is a slight issue, when you have a torrent with masses of files (the one in question had 1100) you may have trouble getting it to check that the torrent is complete. It gives me the warning 'Too many open files' but works fine in XP. The torrent actually worked up until I had a power cut and was forced to recheck.
So works if you don't have a ridiculous torrent with a million files and even then it will work provided you don't get a power cut. - Spo8, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Hmm, I installed Feisty last night and when I went into Computer my Windows drive was already mounted waiting for me, I didn't have to do a thing! That convenience alone is worth the upgrade.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I hate the LliveCD installer. If you want anything other than the default options go for the Alternative installer. The LiveCD is nice for showing off but I've never had it install properly. Besides the Alternative installer will be half way through by the time the live desktop environment gets going.
- tybris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I recall Puppy Linux has had built-in read/write NTFS for over a year with an even simpler configuration tool (start configuration tool - click 'mount ntfs drive'). What's taking Ubuntu so long?
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Good to see Ubuntu is making progress. That said, I'll get back to linux when you don't need guides to install software (including drivers)... had my share of that in 2002-2003 and it seem it hasn't changed.
- theonewho, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@garbage
Do you happen to know if the ntfs partitions on those drives are basic or dynamic? I had the same problem with a dynamic drive and converting it back to basic seemed to fix the problem.
This conversion is generally not recommended, but it can be done (although I'm not aware of a free way to do it). I believe the program I used to do this is Paragon Partition Manager. It will only work if you haven't used any of the advanced features that can be done with dynamic disks like extending partitions or software RAID. - burty89, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you're looking in System/Admin/Network to try to set it up, try using NetworkManager/nm-applet instead (Included by default in Feisty). I say this because for my Broadcom bcm4318 (using ndiswrapper), System/Admin/Network doesn't show WPA as an option either, but by selecting the network with nm-applet a dialog shows and asks for the WPA key.
I guess System/Admin/Network doesn't support WPA, but it doesn't mean you're out of luck. - fusama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is NOT JUST FOR UBUNTU! A quick search on packages.gentoo.org shows that gentoo has it, and folowing the link to the main project pages shows that 79 linux distros plus Mac OS X, two versions of BSD and other OS's can use this. Most certainly not something that is special about Ubuntu in particular, nor just Feisty Fawn.
- livestradamus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2lol@you
- nailer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2> The linked page isn't very clear
Yeah, it hides the fact that write support works in the TITLE! - TheJenks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They would get so many more users if it was all simpler to install. Why is it still so annoyingly awkward?
- tybris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Most Linux Distributions fill their own niche. Do Freesco (routers), Ubuntu (desktop), Red Hat (servers, clusters) and Puppy (cd distribution) really compete?
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I've just checked. I was referring to Paragon.
http://www.openpr.com/news/17814/Paragon-Software-Launches-New-Version-of-NTFS-for-Linux.html
'Paragon Software Group .. announced that it has released Paragon NTFS for Linux 6.0 .. to provide reliable, rapid and transparent read/write access to NTFS volumes under Linux'
@palmer: this is Digg. People mod up/down depending on whether they agree or disagree, not a comment's validity. The same applies to the bury feature bound to a submission. Sometimes they attack the submitter rather than address the article. - jumpfroggy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Someone still uses slackware! Yes! That was my starting distro, though I haven't used it in a while. Supposedly the closest unix-like linux there was at the time. I still like it, though I've since moved on.
- demodawid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@lava
sorry, it already is "Hoary Hedgehog"
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames?highlight=%28names%29
scroll down and see the bold words.
Hungry Hippo would have been MUCH better! - FlakPyro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For a ubuntu only thing its sure working good for me now with my external drive..on fedora
Seriously people can we just say Linux and be done with it, ubuntu is no THE only version out there... - Disease, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They're busy making phallic splash screens.
- Chandon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Seriously people, can't we just say "Free Unix System" and be done with it? Linux is not THE only system out there...
Actually, the fact of the matter is that the difference between GNU/Linux distributions is greater than the difference between, say, Slackware and FreeBSD or Nexenta and Ubuntu. - hackerssidekick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That guide is exactly the same as the original link, just with pics...
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