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- dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3 It's not like you're removing a piece of hardware, you're skipping the step that loads Windows onto the hard drive. Just bypass the part where the OS is loaded onto the blank HD and move on, the company will save time and less time means money saved.
- BlkGuyAtThePrty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It seems Dell is backing down from their previous enthusiasm for pre-installed Linux on their non business machines.
- sirhomer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Would you suck Bill Gates off just to spite the FSF too?
Do it! - sirhomer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+72007 is the year for preinstalled Linux :)
- dkoon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Your good number of those games are just fraction of all the "OLD" PC games, and all the Linux versions of the games are years old. It's not about if it is the most important thing to me, it's the choice that I can play all of them without worrying if it's working or not and waiting for years until it's playable.
Like you said Microsoft hasn't done any of these things, then everything is fine. But think about it, Google is reading everything you write right now, most people seems to have no problem about it.
"Almost" = correct. "3 clicks" = yeah right. - mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Ive used opensuse for a while now, and its just as easy as windows, but if you arent willing to learn anything then you have a much more systemic problem now dont you :D
Those are new games, within 2 years.
GPL software doesn't have to be zero cost, if you understood the GPL you would know that.
The GPL was written with commercial sale in mind, you should be able to do whatever you want with the software, even sell it, it doesn't seem to have hurt Tivo, or Redhat or Novell, does it? How many programmers at Red Hat or Novell do you suppose go hungry because they were developing open source software? - XVampireX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Chris, OpenGL is not even the same as DirectX. DirectX can be compared to SDL while Direct3D can be compared to OpenGL. DirectSound could be compared to OpenAL, too.
Where is it? In many games. For example, Doom 3/Quake 4 is using SDL on Linux while DirectX on Windows. But both of those versions use OpenGL.
And I can very well game on Linux, thank you. - sanguinemoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Digg me down, I guess, but the PC is not the best gaming plateform, regardless of the OS. If you want to play games, and that's most important to you, get a console!
- mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3BTW, the point of Wine and cedega is to make the Win32 API(s), and Directx as well as any library the game needs to run, available under linux, if its implemented correctly it doesn't matter how new the game is, thats the whole point. Cedega in fact has a business model built around it, that seems to be working very well.
- dkoon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2First of all, it's not new games if it's more than 1 year... maybe even half a year. I understand you have to learn to use anything new, but why would I want to spend my time to learn a new OS which can only do almost all the thing that I can do right now. Instead I can just spend more time with my family, play some "new" games, or make more money with the time I have. I don't want to learn Linux "yet" because I have no use of it, it doesn't mean I'm not willing to learn "anything" or have a "systemic problem". This is one of the thing I absolutely hate Linux fanboys, you guys talk like you are superior to everyone, people who don't want to learn the things you like are either idiots or they have problems.
I understand that you can make money under GPL, but we are talking about hardware vendors here, not software companies. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0nice story.........liked it
- dkoon, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5> "How will this improve the situation for the vendor?"
lol, almost all the benefits in the section are for the Free Software customers instead of the companies.
> "(“In the survey of 1,800 young people, released by Cone Inc. and AMP Insights, two Boston marketing companies, 89 percent said they are likely to switch from one company's brand to another if the second brand is associated with a good cause.” Chronicle of Philanthropy, 2006.11.09, Peter Panepento.)"
Dude, Microsoft has donated more money to charity than all the people in Software industries combined.
> "Vendors who understand this evolution will reap the benefits of leveraging the free software community. Vendors who fail to realize this will be left behind in the marketplace by more nimble competitors."
You guys are the people dissing Vista that require new hardware purchases. encourage people to use Pentiun II with 256mb Ram computer. You guys also are the one who discouraging programmers to get pay, but at the same time you telling them not making driver for you is wrong!? How much do you really think your open source community up the sales for these hardware vendors? You guys don't need the latest GPU, CPU because you guys has no software to use them. It's more like you failed to realize you "ARE" the left behinds in the marketplace. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1There's no Microsoft tax. It's more expensive to ship pc's without Windows for volume manufacturers because it's a custom setup that most people do not want, but still requires special handling in production. Plus there's no desktop advertising on the shipped pc. End result, a Linux PC is MORE expensive than a Windows PC.
- mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I don't think we should be hoping to force companies to release everything as open source, take Nvidia, its not neccesary for things to be open source, its only neccesary to have support and functionality, everything else should be second, or you risk shooting yourself in the foot with regards to Linux adoption.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0nice story........liked it
- mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Linux fanboy? I'm using windows right now......calm down.
Almost 70% of people on this site are half retarded, so obviously anyone you come across, you expect to be a fanboy of some sort, nothing you can do about it though :D
To my knowledge cedega can play anything that uses directx 9, which is pretty much everything regardless of how new it is. Its also cheaper than a windows license if you don't have one etc, which is true for a large number of gamers who build new systems.
Linux has plenty of uses, anyone telling you that you must use one thing or another because they are superior is also, you guessed it, half retarded. My point was, its not neccesary to stick to windows for games, its not even that hard to play them in Linux, but most people use linux systems that are also half retarded and broken and thus linux has a rep for being incredibly hard to use. - mrsteveman1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Linux can already play native windows binary games very well, either through Wine or cedega, i have played a good number of them both ways, they haven't been unplayable at all. If that doesn't work, there are Linux versions of many of them. But, Is your ability to play games really the most important thing to you?
Some crazy hypotheticals:
If Microsoft decides that they want to make it impossible to run unsigned code on windows, or If all media files on the system have to be signed by a record company, is playing games still a good reason to keep Windows? What if they read everything you write, but promise not to abuse that power (like lotus), is that still OK?
Microsoft hasn't done any of these things, but what are you willing to accept?
Almost anything you can do on Windows, you can do on Linux, it just takes more than 3 clicks, is that cost worth it? - STKD, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"2007 is the year for preinstalled Linux :)"
Then _________ help the poor bastards stuck with it. - schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4They have one major peril to face and that's incentives (see below), industry deadlocks, and return on investments (or lockins). I'm optimistic, but I don't expect Free (as in Free speech) to necessarily lower the cost of a PC.
Preinstalled Open Source: The Next OS Battleground?
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| The terms of the contracts between [some company] and computer manufacturers make it profitable to ignore
| Linux, according to Dr. James Bottomley, CTO for SteelEye Technology, a software security developer for networks.
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http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/56043.html - chris4404, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2In a perfect world this is true, but unfortunately I doubt it will happen.
Lets just look at one thing Direct X, yes I know OpenGL is available as an alternative but where is it? Basically nothing supports it, so how would FSF crack into the gaming software/hardware market? So many of us would jump the Windows bandwagon if Linux could game. - 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1I see the world's largest FUD machines have regrouped. "Microsoft Tax" indeed. I'd buy Microsoft products just to spite the FSF.
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