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- jaxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmmm a few of the things suggested in that article were a little dubious:
Having a /home that is shared across different *nix fills me with horror, I'm just imagining the kind of havoc that would wreak with Gnome/KDE prefferences, as different distros throw their libraries and image/icon files all over the shop. Not a good idea.
You're better off having a separate /usr/local/share partition that is universally mounted for your common data, or better still, run it off an nfs/smb server, that way everyone (including winblows peeps) can share files.
Also, partitioning really isn't an issue these days, what with lvm and virtualisation being so bloody easy.
Also, I have to disagree with all you people on the /tmp thing. It's not so much whether /tmp is on a separate partition that you have to worry about, it's /var. Too many times I've seen /var carelessly mounted on the / partition, only to have /var/spool/mail fill up with unchecked rootmail and spam virtually overnight and then bring the machine to it's knees when nothing could write to /tmp anymore...
Other than that, solidly explained - Eaglefire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I recently had to get a Linux up and running on my laptop - instead of partitioning, I opted for Colinux, which by some magic trickery runs a Linux kernel inside Windows to allow you to have a VM-like linux box running, except the speeds are just as fast as a normal full-boot Linux computer. I thought it was pretty sweet but running two OS's sure starves you for RAM. So I only start up Colinux when I really need it.
- ardellin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ecahoon, its really not that hard to set up. I dual boot on a laptop, so a separate hard drive is out. Also, it is more flexible to have more than two partitions. For example, you can have one partition for Windows, one for Linux, and a third to be shared between the two.
- mejim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ryanlynds
Actually he does. Some of the points he made for 'why' create partitions being:
1) drawbacks of certain filesystems (FAT 16) to not recognize disks of size greater than 2GB
2) Booting multiple OSes (Like you said)
3) Added Security (/tmp in seperate partition)
4) Greater stability (/var in seperate partition for mail servers give better stability to the server)
5) Convinence (/home in seperate partition)
An apt way of explaining things. Very Good. - Dummies102, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I found it incredibly hard to read the article. What kind of sentance is this?
"And each time, it was a fine balancing but time consuming act of shifting important data from one partition to another, sometimes taking backup and also at times wiping the disk clean and starting afresh." - Netweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The partitioning he describes is for Windows and Linux and is really about the how's and why's to use partitioning and a very good article. He just used a Linux tool in his demonstration.
- ecahoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Very interesting, but I gotta wonder - why go to the trouble when you can buy a hard drive for like $30 and just have a seperate HD for each OS?
- Smokezz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0AnimAI999: Not sure where you got that idea. But its 100% incorrect. You can have 2 EIDE devices per controller... but there you can have more than 2 channels on a machine. You could have 4 controllers on your motherboard, allowing 8 EIDE devices.. Then you could add an EIDE card with 4 more, giving you 16 drives. Also, with SCSI, it depends on the SCSI controller how many devices you can have. Then there is SATA... you can get a 3ware 12 port SATA raid controller... or 2... or 3 of them, and add up to 36 SATA drives.
- lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0From TFA: "The major work in creating partitions is to decide how many partitions to create and how much space to allocate to each of them. If too little is allocated, within no time, all the space will be filled up."
This is a lot harder than it seems when you throw NTFS into the picture, since no OS other than Windows can reliably write to it. Making too much room on the NTFS partition can end up squeezing you out of needed storage for Linux, and vice-versa. - funkytaco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In Linux webservers, the most imporant directory to put on it's own partition is /tmp as you can secure it by putting the options in /etc/fstab as loop,nosuid,noexec,rw and if you chmod 700 the wget binary as well (and chmod it back if a script that performs updates needs to use wget, temporarily). Problem is programs such as perl may still be able to execute /tmp files, but SELINUX helps with more complicated problems like that, by preventing directory traversal.
- Keruo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You can have more than 4 ide drives at once, if you have more than 2 ide ports, either directly or via controller cards.
About the article..
The whole idea of hierarchical file system is the ability to mount volumes as necessary to form a file system tree.
Here the user just creates one partition for the entire system which is brain dead approach. Agreed, it works on workstations,
but on servers, it would be optimal to use separate disk for each primary branch.
This was the approach on most commercial unix machines and it worked well.
The disks today are so large in capacity-wise that it's better to get 2-3 disks and create a large raid array and split it to smaller partitions instead of
using separate disk for each branch.
Having separate partition for each branch is matter of ease of recovery.
Most home users can cope with just one partition where the system and all user stuff lies, if it blows up, just reinstall.
But if there's separate partition for each branch, and some partition fails, /var for example, just umount /var, repair the partition and remount. - ezkiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0how insteresting Grub ***** up my HD today and Linux is never getting another chance until I get a seperate HD.
- AnImAl999, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Because with IDE you can only have 4 drives anyways.. SCSI not the case though.. Depending on they type of scsi you can have 12, 16, or 32 devices on a channel.. I've always found that installing an os per hd is actually more stable in the long run anyways..
- sych0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0eh, misleading topic. Should be Effective LINUX Partitioning.
- Cronos1388, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@TheSnazzyOne (1)
Stop flaming every front page article. Time to test out the block button. - pillfred, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Cool article
- multifaceted, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Will, that answered none of my questions about partitioning.
- ryanlynds, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0did i read this wrong? he never goes into "why" someone would partition, besides running multiple operating systems.
- Muddle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0/Boot 20mb ext2
/ 3000mb ext3
swap 256mb swap
/Home remainder ext3
Great article, yeah, right! - h0dg3s, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0I did this on my own when I was 14, there are tons of sites explaining how to do this, it is NOT news, no digg + reported as old news.
- TheSnazzyOne, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0If you understand what you are doing with partitioning, you'll need good tools. Check this AWESOME tools out... http://digg.com/software/New_Torrents_USB_Flash_Drive_Versions_of_Digg_s_Most_Talked_About_BootCD_s
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Awesome site thanks for the link!
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