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- planksconstant, on 10/16/2007, -2/+297well if the RIAA and MPAA don't want me to use it, naturally i must.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+96or just don't live in USA
- BlogThePlanet, on 10/10/2007, -2/+66Rebellion is the key to progress.
- objectcode, on 10/11/2007, -25/+71***** the RIAA and MPAA, did they pay for my computer? no they didn't so ***** them, i'll run what i want
- gfnw, on 11/05/2007, -3/+49Condoms don't always work. Better not use them at all.
- bioret2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28there are places with more freedom & FAR cheaper internet, bud.
- spydon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+28Nice tutorial! I always wondered if it were some program like peergaurdian for ubuntu, thx!
- noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23cheap, fast internet? you obviously don't live in the USA.
- noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20"ubuntu and linux are not interchangeable" - well, ubuntu is linux, but linux is not necessarily ubuntu.
- mrjit, on 10/10/2007, -4/+22I highly doubt anyone has claimed this to be the holy grail of secure p2p downloading. What it is, just like a radar detector in your car, is extra help. It doesn't hinder anything, and allows you to be /more/ secure than before, although obviously not completely secure.
- KnightMareInc, on 10/10/2007, -7/+25I agree 100%. Blocking riaa.com and "suspicious" dynamic IPs is completly useless. The entire notion that the people who make these list know who to block and who not to block is insane.
- demizer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17That is the only reason I made the jump!
- noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18a false sense of security is wrong. the people who say IP blockers are completely useless make me laugh. nobody is claiming something like peerguardian makes you completely secure. it is, however, still beneficial to block known IP addresses that they use. think about it; if they're known to connect from address x, even though in the future they might use address x and y, you're decreasing your chance of being connected to if you block x instead of leaving it open to connect. they certainly wouldn't be attempting to check for sharing on all potential IPs with both x and y for each address. it wouldn't make sense. even if they moved 66% of their load of work onto their y range, that's still a 33% chance that you're in the x load, therefore making blocking the x range beneficial.
- CamoChris, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Nobody has said you can't use this program, the submitter has taken the logical step in assuming that because this program hinders what those to groups want to do they would be against you using it, but they haven't come out and said it.
- Henaro, on 10/30/2007, -3/+18Replace gksudo gedit with kdesu kate if you're on KDE.
- ers35, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17That's just it, the people who create lists for programs like PeerGuardian don't know who "they" are. The RIAA and MPAA don't only do business in a specific area. They have servers set up all around the world. (Presumably)
- tehmoth, on 10/11/2007, -6/+19Title says 'Linux' and its in the 'Linux/Unix' section, not the 'Ubuntu' section.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Firstly these list aren't just supposed to remove the risk of being sued, they stop you from receiving fake data.
Actually the Media defender leaks showed that its actually quite effective, they where having problems obtaining new IPs.
So even if it doesn't make your risk of being sued 0 but it probably significantly reduces it and makes the people doing the suing's job a lot harder for everyone.
I have had several of those standard, automated, stop sharing emails, but only when not using safepeer. I turned it off once and got one of the emails the next day. - bruenig, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13The article is about specifically any distro that uses apt. Debian, dreamlinux, mepis and so on and so forth.
- Loonacy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Stealing is one thing. Copyright infringement is another.
- Ratteler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12"freedoms" you obviously don't live in the USA... or you're in the 1% of rich bastards who have stolen our freedoms.
- zebbers, on 10/30/2007, -0/+11Yeah especially now since DEMONOID IS BACK UP!!!!!!!
- karamba_kid, on 10/30/2007, -1/+11You can apt-get but you can't hide!
- Ratteler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Which proves WHAT exactly? That something from my IP address got a list of other IP addresses. They still need to provide evidence OF WRONG DOING to do anything to you, which they can't unless they can actually GET PROOF that you shared information. They can't do that if you're blocking any direct connections to them.
Furthermore, since this is a peer to peer communication, it's inadmissible in court. It's like taping a phone conversation without your knowledge. It's technically an invasion of privacy without a warrant, and it is illegal!
This is why in almost every case that has been challenged, THE RIAA/MPAA HAS DROPPED THE CASE!
Because as soon a they reveal the illegal techniques they are using to get this information, they will set a precedent that will make ALL such terror tactics illegal. - TheFoolyCooly, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12And they could be using any IP address, including ones not included in any database, nullifying this kind of protection...
- kingkilr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I use peer guardian because it's fun to see that the University of Colorado pings me incessantly for no apparent reason(no P2P apps up).
- Scynet, on 10/30/2007, -2/+11Or just use sudo nano :)
- grumpyrain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Dude, this is digg.
You can't just omit the /sarcasm tags like that. - Ratteler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Yes. The RIAA/MPAA should stop stealing our Public Domain, and violating our right to privacy.
In the face of such blatant criminal activity that is ignored, or worse... ENDORSED by our duly elected representatives, we are left with no option but to "Steal" our rights back. - Breepee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8So true. But offtopic. Or where you under the false impression that copying=stealing?
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -3/+11Thanks for the laugh on the headline and the total irrelevance of it to the text.
- masgrada, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9The new peer guardian stopped blocking a whole bunch of government addrs. Kinda makes me wonder.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Guess what, it works in Linux. And since you are calling this "detailed" I bet you never saw a single manpage, did you?
- noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8actually, despite not being able to block all potential IPs that the riaa / mpaa would use, it's still beneficial to block IPs that they've been known to use. it's pretty basic logic to deduce that it's still a somewhat useful program.
- linkerjpatrick, on 10/30/2007, -1/+8This makes me want to use it. Out of spite.
- concreteclam, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Or don't download / upload music that's on a or supported by a RIAA controlled label. Do your research on places like RIAARadar, Discogs, Wikipedia, Google, etc.
- noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7actually, there's less usable IPs than what you listed. some IPs are reserved for things like broadcast and whatnot.
- objectcode, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6just little thieves stealing from the big thieves
- pixelat3d, on 10/30/2007, -0/+6For anyone who really cares about viewing their moblock logs in real time here's how: tail -f /var/log/moblock.log ...tada ... just leave the terminal window open and watch those IP addresses fly by (note this is nothing amazing, anyone with basic knowledge should know this, but i felt it's worth mentioning anyway). Enjoy = )
- Quadduc, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Yes, do share music, but do so legally. A good starting point is http://www.jamendo.com/
- KahNeth, on 10/30/2007, -7/+13noob, sudo vi
- mbsjoblom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Try "sudo moblock-control reload" and then try again "sudo moblock-control test"
- gavin422, on 10/10/2007, -0/+61%? If 1% of illegal downloaders were caught, the RIAA would be rolling in cash. It's got to be far lower than that.
- pauleric, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6ers35: You might presume that, but in my experience from life in general: most people are incompetent, or at least only competent in their very narrow area of expertise. And a big bureaucratic organization only exacerbates the matter. Of course, the RIAA would like you to think that they are experts doing all the smart things to get good evidence. But looking at what they've got to use in their court cases kind of exposes them.
- wocheck, on 10/30/2007, -1/+6interesting article but has nothing really to do with the title oh well //digg
- frazw, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10but the article (if you read it) is about specifically ubuntu. man don't be so touchy
- Randinn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6What freedom?
- dharm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4iptables... drop a bunch of ranges
- Dude622, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Actually, if you actually did illegally download and share music, then (if you get caught) it is fairly likely that you will be successfully sued. The amazing stories you hear about the bad cases from the RIAA (or good for us) are pretty rare. Thing is, most people will just settle the case now, because if you are guilty, there's not much you can do.
- cfuse, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Statistically speaking, being sued is highly unlikely and being successfully sued even more so. From my perspective, the most successful strategy would simply be to download whatever you want, as the risks are negligible in relation to the benefits.
Do as you please, just be aware of the risks - isn't that just common sense? -
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