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- DeathRay2K, on 11/21/2007, -6/+84What's your point?
He never even implied that Ubuntu is the only distro of Linux, he merely asked if it was beneficial to Ubuntu.
No need to be an ass about it. - mmmcookies, on 11/21/2007, -13/+86Have you ever heard new linux users complain that sometimes the established linux community is full of un-helpful jerks?
Yeah, they are talking about you. - podgey22, on 11/21/2007, -1/+70WINE is not an emulator! (it's what the bloody name means!)
- GMorgan, on 11/21/2007, -2/+46Yes but thanks to the Windows tax, we all own licenses. QED.
- saisumimen, on 11/21/2007, -2/+45Breaking Microsoft's EULA does not equal "illegal".
- inactive, on 11/21/2007, -9/+48Will any more directx games run in Ubuntu because of this?
- Widowmaker391, on 11/21/2007, -7/+42You don't know much about dx10, do you?
- Jacob, on 11/21/2007, -0/+35it's not emulated wine is not an emulator it's actually running the dlls natively. Directx still needs optimization but many programs such as wow run the same if not better in linux.
- grexeo, on 11/21/2007, -2/+36WINE = Wine Is Not an Emulator
- DarkDx, on 11/21/2007, -4/+37Why always such so ignorant comments appear in the internet, oh wait, is because you would be humillated if this were real life.
- jcronkhite, on 11/21/2007, -1/+31Here's an honest question. What am I able to do on Fedora or SUSE or others that I cannot do on Ubuntu since "anyone can use it"? Do you have a sense that all Ubuntu users are stuck on GUI only applications? While that will be the initial experience of a new Linux/Ubuntu user, the community helps those users integrate real Linux command line concepts over time, making them more savvy users. Nobody learns to play "Stairway to Heaven" first. The need to start with "Mary Had a Little Lamb", you know (unless, of course, they're playing Guitar Hero)?
- spyrochaete, on 11/21/2007, -1/+3099.99999% To my knowledge there are 2 DirectX 10 exclusive games in existence.
- podgey22, on 11/21/2007, -1/+28Because some libraries need to be WINE's own to play nice with Linux (et al). They do roughly the same job though - that's what they're there for.
- Coldkill, on 11/21/2007, -7/+34100% stupidity...go away spudnic
- MacParrot, on 11/21/2007, -2/+27I don't use Linux so I'm probably coming at this from the wrong direction. Wouldn't an easy to use Linux distro HELP the Linux cause? If Ubuntu is easier to use and install than other distros, then more people will use it. More people using it means more developers become interested and create more software. More software means more people will want to use it. I don't see the downside there. That would be like someone removing XP from their system for MSDOS, because XP is too easy.
- bj1989, on 11/21/2007, -0/+25@zyl0x: You DO NOT need to install dx9 in wine in order to play many dx9 games! Wine has its own implementation of directx build in. For example you can play Half life 2, episode one and two and portal in wine without tweaking.
- Theli, on 11/21/2007, -0/+25And he only had one feeling... great going jerk! ;-)
- inactive, on 11/21/2007, -2/+22Your reply hurt my feeling.
- DonCornelius, on 11/21/2007, -3/+23Nothing wrong in creating a technology that will be available long after Microsoft gives Windows XP and DirectX 9.0c the End-of-Life boot. People's favorite applications and games will be available for a long time.
- morphir, on 11/21/2007, -4/+23informative article. Thanks! Could anyone please explain why it's not 100% directx?
- TheZorch, on 11/21/2007, -4/+23Direct X 10 is a piece of *****. Worst yet, its backward compatibility with older Direct X games is horrible and its OpenGL emulation is a joke.
- BeatPunchbeef, on 11/21/2007, -5/+23Force people to BUY buggy beta operating systems that will frequently require major patches and security updates until the next version rolls out... go M$.
- Lounger540, on 11/21/2007, -0/+18That's not necessarily true. I've seen benchmarks where some apps actually run faster using Wine. My buddy had a dual boot and always played Warcraft3 in Wine bcs he said it ran smoother.
- skrowl, on 11/21/2007, -9/+26What they also mention is that using the Microsoft DirectX DLLs is illegal if you don't own a Windows license.
- GMorgan, on 11/21/2007, -1/+18That's not it at all. The great majority of DX functionality is built upon previous DX functionality. A section is dependent on the platform. Basically the Wine DLLs you have to keep are the libraries that implement this dependent stuff on Linux. That isn't fully compatible with the Windows DLLs yet. It is 100% native though, there is no emulation. Windows code runs as well as Linux code, the difference between Windows and Wine is the Wine libraries haven't been optimized to the same extent.
- luchid, on 11/21/2007, -1/+18Your logic is assbackwards. Linux has no DRM measures built in. Nor is it compatible with all that DRMed ***** out there (thank god). You being unable to play DRMed content isn't Linux's fault but yours for paying for content that violates your fair use rights.
- inactive, on 11/21/2007, -3/+18i thought that would be a good thing? Everyone knows DX10 sucks reptilian nuts.
- mmmcookies, on 11/21/2007, -3/+17How is this piracy? When you buy a new game that requires Directx, the game includes a copy of directx.
- inactive, on 11/21/2007, -0/+14I'm not quite sure why, but I refuse to run TF2 in Windows, because I get better performance in Linux. Unfortunately, I'm still stuck running xp in VMWare so I can watch my DRM'd class lectures. Otherwise, I'd be 100% on Linux.
- powatom, on 11/21/2007, -3/+17Same deal with Windows - except in Windows, you have to wait months for any security updates, leaving your machine wide open to known and unpatched vulnerabilities, and then you have the annoying hell that is rebooting the machine every time you update.
Oh, and at least most Linux distributions are free, and all updates are free, and most things - security wise anyway, are fixed as soon as humanly possible so you can update. - mtekk, on 11/21/2007, -0/+14@spyrochaete:
There is no native steam binary for linux, but I believe WINE does run it. - GMorgan, on 11/21/2007, -2/+15You realise that study was paid for by MS and compared apples and oranges. Just checking. Anyway a study that has proven to be totally flawed and was funded by MS is of no interest.
- canthraxp, on 11/21/2007, -2/+15confirmed: you're an *****.
- inactive, on 11/21/2007, -4/+17no one wants DX10 in 2007 so forget about 2020. Face the Facts. DX10 sucks.
- mrsteveman1, on 11/21/2007, -0/+12Vista doesn't support OpenGL directly, it runs OpenGL ON TOP OF DirectX by translating the system calls, and the drivers Microsoft releases over windows update (like the Intel drivers) don't support OpenGL at all. I had to grab drivers from Intels own site just to get an astronomy program working, because Microsoft had removed OpenGL entirely from the other driver.
At best its a poor situation until the graphics companies release ICD OpenGL implementations for Vista, if they ever do. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 11/21/2007, -2/+14Wine. Is. Not. Emulator.
- ryodoan, on 11/21/2007, -1/+13While I applaud you for at least trying Ubuntu I think this might be the wrong place to mention that you went fully back to windows XP.
It sounds from your post however that you were using an older version of Ubuntu because with the latest release installation of Flash is as easy if not easier than installation on Windows XP. As for the wifi problems if they are still not fixed by installing restricted drivers in the latest version of Ubuntu I would recommend making a post on the Ubuntu Help forums as they are an incredible source of assistance.
While I still have windows XP on my desktop for games and some programming stuff, I use Ubuntu primarily for Surfing the web, listening to music, watching movies, and chatting with friends. I love the graphics effects and the wifi support has become extremely easy to use, I spent about an hour trying to get XP to connect to my work network (WPA2 Enterprise) and it still would not work, only took about 15 seconds in ubuntu, Select the Wifi signal, put in security type, when prompted put in my account name and password and poof it worked. - Phocion55, on 11/21/2007, -1/+13Exactly my point.
- wolvyne, on 11/21/2007, -1/+13Wonder how the performance is...
- inactive, on 11/21/2007, -2/+14Part of the problem is the arrogance of people who consider it a feat of intellectual superiority to use a command line. That is not in any way a sign of intelligence, but a sign of an inability to change with the times. Command line based operating systems were the 1980s, and we have moved on. As Linux evolves from a hobbyists vanity in to a more robust and more universally accepted operating system, it too must move on. The Linux community needs to get over it's mistaken belief in their superiority and realize that using primitive tools doesn't impress the real world, that ease of use isn't the same thing as being unsophisticated, and that for Linux to prosper it needs to be a little more user friendly. I am an old man, I have a degree in programming and systems analysis, I take courses at the local community college, and I am employed full time in the IT industry, and I can tell you that the Linux community needs to wake up and smell the coffee. That is what is holding you back despite having an arguably superior kernel and a more stable operating system.
- jcronkhite, on 11/21/2007, -0/+12Well said. But the GUI tools are extensions of their mostly more powerful built-in command line counterparts. This excludes obvious GUI-only applications. So whether you choose to use the command line or the GUI version of these applications doesn't matter at all to me. I absolutely agree that a GUI interface is essential for mass mainstream adoption of Linux, but I don't see the need to abandon the command line to move forward. It will likely always be part of Linux (as well as Unix). Even the MacOS has a command line (since OSX I believe) for those who choose to use it. The command line is not obsolete by any means. There are many practical reasons why it is needed; but not necessarily at the desktop level, so this is where I think your point most applies.
- archer75, on 11/21/2007, -2/+14It has no backwards compatibility at all. Nor does it emulate OpenGL. Vista has DX10 AND DX9. It also supports OpenGL.
- zeebo, on 11/21/2007, -1/+12Complain to Apple and Netflix about it then. There aren't any linux coders who are going to make that DRM work. First because they're mostly philosophically opposed to DRM. Secondly because even if they were ok with it, it would be illegal for them to do so. If you pay for crippled content, you're going to have to put up with aggravations.
- andycr512, on 11/21/2007, -0/+11Newer ones are playable as well. People were playing Portal and TF2 as soon as they came out on moderate systems at 60fps. The difference if in many cases not very apparent.
- int19h, on 11/21/2007, -1/+12Wine is a re-implementation of Windows that are faster for some functions.
- andycr512, on 11/21/2007, -0/+10Terc: I really hate to say this, and it does suck, but you kind of did it to yourself. You know when buying DRM'ed media that the compatibility is terrible. It really isn't "Linux having bad DRM support" so much as "The media owners not caring about their users". I always make sure not to buy media that is DRM'ed - I've only ever bought a very small amount that it - so I have no issues with my media.
- mrshiney, on 11/21/2007, -0/+10I'll say this, I went as far as paying for Cedega in an effort to get games to work properly. It turned out the issue was more to do with my crappy ATI card than with Cedega code. After switching to an NVidia card I find (at least with the older games I tried) they install and run much better on regular wine than w/ cedega. Probably because wine is updated so often.
- leif81, on 11/21/2007, -0/+10First of all the average gamer doesn't run linux.
If you're not comfortable doing this then I suggest you buckle up and just try it anyways. Becoming comfortable with the command line is when the real Linux experience starts. Otherwise it's like owning a ferrari and never taking it out of the driveway. - LlamaKing, on 11/21/2007, -3/+13I wonder when Windows will have native OpenGL support
- andycr512, on 11/21/2007, -0/+10Does all media have DRM? No, very little does. Should people refrain from buying DRM'ed media? Depends whether they care about freedom and compatibility.
"It's not DRM you are ***** about, its the fact that Linux doesn't have a solid platform for companies to support, hence they don't."
Que? It's a platform just like any other. Oh, and yes, it -is- DRM that I hate. I simply won't buy media with it. I prefer not to wear digital handcuffs when listening to music. If you have some kind of love for being restricted, who am I to stop you? -
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