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- stonyhill, on 11/01/2007, -4/+136GIMP needs nondestructive features like adjustment layers and layer folders, and vastly improved text tools. If that happens, I don't care what it's called or what it looks like.
- trogdoor, on 10/11/2007, -2/+91It is already happening:
http://svenfoo.geekheim.de/index.php/2006-11-09/gimp-openusability-student-project/
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign - liquidcola, on 11/01/2007, -12/+55Isn't GIMP open-source? FORK IT if you want a change.
- electioneering, on 10/11/2007, -17/+55it needs a name change. i don't care what it stands for.
- ourhomeplanet, on 10/11/2007, -10/+40If you had actually tried Gimp, and are not a complete dumb-ass, you'd realize it's really not that hard to learn. I find to be amazing actually; and for something that's free that even more amazing. It's UI is actually quite user friendly: all the icons are pretty much intuitive, and the rest just takes a bit of fiddling around. Also, when a person tries Photoshop for the first time its interface is seems alien and confusing, and like any program (like Gimp) you have to simply put in a bit of effort.
- mitrovarr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+29Seriously, this is one of the number one problems with the GIMP. You cannot mention the current name in polite or business conversation without everyone looking at you like you just brought up rape porn. You have to go into a long, uncomfortable discussion of the acronym and background. Even after that, the name reveals that the developers and the project itself are extremely unprofessional, which isn't a good impression to have when attempting to use it. Add the train wreck of an interface and the GIMP is pretty much doomed from the start, no matter how well it actually works internally.
Seriously, developers, bite the bullet and name it something respectable. It doesn't matter if you pick a totally lame, soulless name like OpenImage or Gnu Imager or whatever, it's still better than the freaking GIMP. You could not pick a worse name if you tried. - agrabob, on 10/11/2007, -6/+34And if you're used to Photoshop, there's a project trying to make a replacement UI that mirrors that look and feel:
http://gimpshop.blogspot.com/
For the record, I have not tried it, so no idea on the quality. - stalefries, on 10/11/2007, -2/+27I filed a bug on that a while back, and it was closed. :(
- stonyhill, on 10/11/2007, -2/+22Genius answer. Because every single person in the world who is in need of a decent image editor also happens to be a crack developer who can decipher the 10 years of spaghetti code that is the GIMP source.
- Ignignokt01, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20and what a positive word it is.
not. - inactive, on 10/25/2007, -4/+23"I never seemed to notice."
That is the beauty of it. - bebop717, on 10/11/2007, -4/+23A facelift would only be the start.
- linuxdaemon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17OK...this is a very non-intuitive thing. To draw a line: Select the brush or pencil tool, click an endpoint of your line, now hold the shift key and click your other end.
- DesuKN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Digg is the new PetitionOnline
- pdeco, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18I am not sure how powerful KDE's Krita is compared to GIMP, but it looks like a good alternative.
http://www.koffice.org/krita/ - ZeitMachina, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19How about a f**king LINE TOOL.
- goblindegook, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14Screw that logic, zgregoryg. If we can make it better through user feedback, then we should. Just because GIMP is free doesn't mean it has to be a second-grade product.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Why not make a dramatic change, like GAIM to Pidgin? From GIMP to Sun Flower, Sky, Monarch, or something artistic?
- stmiller, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Partial CMYK support is available with a third party plugin, but yeah this is the main thing keeping serious users away. Also GIMP cannot open 16bit images, only 8bit. :(
Some more good and bad points are summarized here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP - tnoy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13The last time I tried gimpshop, all it really did was change around the menus. All the keyboard shortcuts and UI features that Photoshop has are not transfered over. If you're a "power Photoshop user" its not going to do anthing to help you; it /helps/ but not enough to make it that useful. If you're like me, and mostly just use keyboard shortcuts and edit in fullscreen, just skip it.
I've since just been using the vanilla GIMP, I feel its better in the long-run to know its interface. - GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13They should call it GNP. GNP's Not Photoshop.
- Steeple, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16it's interface is no where near as bad as Painter, which I gave up on.
GIMP is terrific for what it is, it feels like maybe photoshop 5 or 6, to me, but in the end "being free" wasn't really a good enough reason to use it.
Pros use a legit copy of photoshop and we're pretty happy with it (adobe buttrape pricing aside), casuals use a pirated copy until they go pro, it's an upgrade system that kinda works...i don't see where GIMP can fit in unless it starts actually doing something better than photoshop
it's a willfully awful name though - HeroreV, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Yes! I want to add shadows, glow, and borders, with the ability to change the color, opacity, thickness, etc at any time, and have it automatically updated when the layer changes. Currently you have to redo it again and again. It's ridiculous!
- ray73864, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13GIMP needs better text tools and the interface needs to be bound by a master window, i hate this floating crap, dreamweaver of the old had it till they tied it all into a nice window, now GIMP seems to want to mimic that, other than those 2 things i love GIMP.
- SamuelDr2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14The GIMP could be the best program for editing image (excluding the fact that they would miss CMYK) if you could have anything as an "effect layer" like the parent needs. I mean, we search through the menus for an effect, apply it as a layer and you can still edit the source layer. Sure, it would be CPU intensive, but you could still do it the old fashionned way.
- schestowitz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12The next version of the GIMP will have a UI overhaul.
- Dhalgren, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13FORK YOU!!!
- jwkane, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13just in case some freakjob doesn't understand the sarcasm... forking a project to implement a feature is nearly always a miserable and horribly wrong choice.
- miffe, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Non destructive layereffects will come when gimp moves over to using gegl.
http://www.gegl.org/ - DonCarcharo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11What I find amusing is that the same people who create open sourced solutions like GIMP question the success of commercial products like the iPhone. Are you serious? Your application is named after a derrogatory term for a disabled person. What's next, a vector illustration application called Oozing pustule?
Like it or not, marketing is an important component of almost any wildly successful product. - chrisinsocalif, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16Oh, I thought you meant that guy on Pulp Fiction.
"Bring in the GIMP!" - TheRealToma, on 10/11/2007, -5/+14Instead of digging it, why dont you file some usability bugs or even submit some patches? Thats how open source works. And if you cant code it, learn it.
- Muncher, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9I've never had the disdain for GIMP's interface that many seem to express, but it could definitely use a makeover. The development builds are improved, but they're far from "normal."
- micahbell, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Yes, GIMP is great. It still needs some serious help on the UI.
- calculoid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8So you just have to minimize everything else, change your desktop background, hide your taskbar, then move around and stretch the tool windows whenever you want to use GIMP... I can't imagine why anyone would think that GIMP needs a UI overhaul. I must be a complete dumbass.
- theragu40, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I think the point is that he IS an average person, not an expert. You're trying to appeal to the masses, right?
Take me for example. I'm no expert. I've never used Photoshop (can't afford it). GIMP works fantastically for me, because that's what I learned on. I'm sure it's missing some more advanced features, but I like it a lot. Too often, people who are 'experts' think that 'usable by the average person' means including every feature possible. - st3vo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11I like gimp and I like the mascot.
- omarciddo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8It doesn't have quite as many features as GIMP, but there's no question the UI is easier to use.
- ho0ber, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I wish I could dig this up more than once...
- danielman94, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7"But the Gimp's sleeping!"
- link_36p, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7The people who made the GIMP arent stupid, they know people complain about the UI. But i think you might mean making suggestions to them? Telling them there UI sucks isn't telling them anything new.
- brundlefly76, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8IMHO neither the GIMP nor Photoshop have a well designed interface.
With most open source GUI software I almost kind of expect it, as most open source software projects are engineering driven and many have absolutely no HID professional, graphic designer, or hell even a producer who oversees the project without the bias of voluntary coding time.
Thats one of my main complaints about open source desktop software - that there is this pervasive idea that programmers are the only element to software..
Now Photoshop doesnt have these excuses so why their interface and shortcuts (even copy/paste handling) are so significantly different then other software is just weird. - theragu40, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Except GIMP is a word. They never have to know it's an acronym.
- mitrovarr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Yeah, and if public health pisses you off, go to medical school!
Seriously, they want the interface that way. People have been bitching continuously about it for years and years, and people hack together fixes like Gimpshop, but it stays the same way. If you fix it, you'll just fork the project and your fork will die without maintenance. - centx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Personally I've been using the GIMP as a hobbyist for a few years now, and before that photoshop, and even though I'm more used to the GIMP interface, I have to agree with this, GIMP needs a serious facelift. This way it will be easier to adopt, and maybe in the long run be easier to use over all. (not to mention for GIMP to start using GEGL, but thats another story, or not?)
- DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I know its a long shot but PS plugin support somehow?? would be great. Other than that, A more familiar interface like PS and improved layer control would be the thing...
- championchap, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Anyone likely to use such a feature would have a pretty good CPU anyway, so it certainly wouldnt be a turn off.
- rusty0101, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Nah, that's what Inkscape is for.
- VenTatsu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Yeah, the right way to do it is to call it a 'branch' that way you can claim that your code will be merged into the trunk.
/sarcasm - MBHoy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Windows that lock together = happy me
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