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- z0mbie2099, on 12/20/2007, -1/+28High-end PCs and Laptops please Dell.
- inactive, on 12/20/2007, -0/+19Linux good, Dell want.
Dell: Can haz drivers now?
Linux: Yes can has more drivers.
Dell make more computers, put in linux.
Computers work gooder with new linux.
Dell happy now. - daftman, on 12/20/2007, -1/+19He's talking about Dell releasing Linux as a default installation in their High-end PCs and Laptops. So far they are only doing that to low-mid range desktop and laptops
- Abominous, on 12/20/2007, -0/+17At my job we have a 30 node dell computing cluster with red hat. They've been really good with tech support.
- judolphin, on 12/20/2007, -0/+10The beauty of Open Source is that it serves the interests of users, rather than corporations. The problem with closed source software is that it the users' interests are not the coders' primary concern. Closed source software is at times more polished, however; lack of polish has always been OSS's Achilles' Heel. OSS often requires a lot of tweaking to work properly. Not a problem for tech nuts, but a hurdle for acceptance by the general population. Companies like Dell are out to make a buck from the masses. They have financial incentive to make things easy to use -- to make them "just work". So they will take some awesome Open Source software like Linux, and hopefully improve things like driver support and usability for average-to-newbie users.
This is nothing but a Good Thing for the Linux community, because the genius of GPL ensures that if Dell's millions succeed in making honest-to-goodness improvements to Linux, those improvements belong to the world. I've never been a Dell fan, but this is great news all the way around. - LoudMusic, on 12/20/2007, -1/+10I applaud this and am glad that people in the Dell Linux camp are striving to do it right, rather than just attempting to produce Linux products.
"Take your time, do it right.
Baby we can do this all damn night."
Don't screw up a good thing and it'll last much, much longer. And it'll be better for the community as a whole. Together SGI, Sun, IBM, HP/Compaq, and Dell are helping Linux quite a lot. I wish the Linux zealots would realize this and simply be appreciative without being ***** about not getting what they want fast enough or good enough. - schestowitz, on 12/20/2007, -11/+17They have just added out of the box DVD playback support. http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7924076658.html
- srg13, on 12/20/2007, -0/+6People use high powered computers for things other than gaming, you know...
- ldog, on 12/20/2007, -0/+5How about Unreal Tournament 3 and Quake Wars Enemy Territory?
- mrsteveman1, on 12/20/2007, -0/+5First let me agree with you, usability is going to improve when large companies get involved with financial motives. However.....
The GPL isn't going to guarantee anything, Dell can release binary drivers for their own specific platform and kernel and get around the GPL, they already do this with the Linuxant driver right now. This is even worse than having portable binary drivers like Windows because they don't work everywhere and you STILL don't have the code or any common platform.
All I'm saying is that the GPL and Linux are at odds with the market right now, and it looks like the market is going to resist molding to fit Linux as much as possible, the result is going to be a huge mess. - charlietuna, on 12/20/2007, -1/+6Hey Dudes at Dell, please add support for Open Bios, then boot up times can be trimmed tremendously.
- Abominous, on 12/20/2007, -0/+4Well yeah, I work for a Medical School and we paid like $150,000 for the cluster. So yeah they bent over backward for us.
They were also much easier to deal with than Sun and Apple. - ldog, on 12/20/2007, -0/+4The laptops are fine, but the desktops are low end. The only available options for the CPU on them is the Pentium E2140 & E2160 which are dual core however they only have 1MB of L2 cache and aren't clocked very high. The Intel core2Duo and AMD 64 X2 chips have 2 or 4 megs of cache.
Doesn't seem like a big deal but it makes a difference. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+4I'm fairly sure that the technical support you receive is completely different to consumer grade technical support. You obviously pay a lot more for it too. Not to say that the consumer grade support is bad though, I've only heard positive things about Dell support - usually quite happy to replace faulty items, no questions asked style.
- sparrowkc, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2It's great how they support the whole community by submitting all their changes upstream instead of just patching up the preinstalled installation.
- zekt, on 12/20/2007, -1/+3I've always thought Garrett danced like a drunk penguin.
- LinuxGalore, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2Sorry but MAC's have their own weird firmware that is heavily "undocumented" and thus spews up problems on every update for Linux users. God knows how many times I have heard Linux/Mac users complaining of firmware problems and how an update has stuffed up the hardware.
- srg13, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2When he says DVD playback support, he means legal playback of commercial DVDs out of the box
- thecheatah, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2Iv gotten so use to linux, and pissed off about hardware incompatibilities, I think from now on I will ALWAYS buy a dell. Yes these words sound strong, but I can not stand windows and Macs, as cool as they are, I just don't want to become committed again to a specific closed-source company.
Go Dell! - mrsteveman1, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2Most windows boxes are a mess, but people usually go out of their way to support Macs with Linux because there are only a few of them at any given time so they are a known quantity and simple to support, no random parts, no unknown firmware problems, etc.
- ebullit, on 12/21/2007, -0/+1yeah like trying to run vista lol
- CaviMike, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1This and that Apple thread are making me nervous.
- Peepsalot, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1"The main initiative we've been working on recently is to improve support in the Nvidia driver for suspend and hibernate support on laptops."
Thank goodness. In my opinion suspend is the single most aggravating issue that still plagues linux on the laptop. It's about time someone got NVIDIA's ass in gear, and I hope they succeed.
Oh, and it would be nice if they could polish up the dual monitor support while they're at it. - inactive, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1This guy is playing both fields. Here he is on an HP site. https://h20212.www2.hp.com/images/smily_guy.jpg
- omababy, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1An Apple cluster, the mind boggles.
- guinnessstout, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1This really pertains to the artical!
- Fergy, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1Or any other new bios replacement like Asus is using with Splash. But I don't think we will have to wait much longer. A bios replacement would mean less cost per computer/motherboard and a faster boot. The only thing keeping them from using it is uncertainty and a one time investment in making it work.
- charlietuna, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1I use a mac at work. Better than windows? Well, with all the BSD behind it, I can at least say that it's familiar under the hood. The big surprise is the fact that apps (Firefox/OpenOffice) crash less often on my IBM Z61t running Ubuntu Gutsy. The Apple GUI with the single button mouse and cut-n-paste that doesn't quite hook into X11 clipboard is also a persistent frustration.
- abuelos84, on 12/20/2007, -2/+2Lol, that was good.
- guinnessstout, on 12/20/2007, -1/+1Stop whining for people to do ***** for you. Figure out how to install openbios yourself.
- mrsteveman1, on 12/20/2007, -3/+2In the end the only thing these companies are capable of doing is putting weight behind Linux to make it a stronger force in the market. But even with all that force behind it, in some areas one of 2 things will have to happen for desktop Linux to take off, Linux will mold to fit the market, or the market will mold to fit Linux. So far neither has happened and the result is fairly obvious.
Linux is at odds with a lot of things right now, but the main strength of Dell and the others is similar to the distros, taking everything and making a finished usable device for sale. To that end Dell has some work to do because its not enough at the moment. - GorfTron, on 12/20/2007, -3/+2Ya, TL;DR
- loganm10, on 12/20/2007, -2/+1I use Ubuntu on every computer in my house, but please stop putting these "Dell uses Ubuntu!!" stories on the frontpage. They are boring and useless and I would much rather hear of other things
- sparrowkc, on 12/20/2007, -5/+4In case you missed the two front page stories today...
- guinnessstout, on 12/20/2007, -2/+1Sweet a ***** Linux distro to go on my ***** hardware!
- momsshizzle, on 12/20/2007, -3/+1That's all u can do with Linsux. Just let it "just work" on a Dell.
http://distrogue.blogspot.com/2007/12/digg-redmond ... - zakatov, on 12/20/2007, -3/+1Wow, ignorance ahoy. First of all, Apple used Open Firmware (which is like the name suggests OPEN SOURCE) on PPC macs and EFI (with BIOS support) on its Intel models. Second of all, since 2000, EACH AND EVERY Apple computer has been shipping with an OPEN SOURCE UNIX OS (source code available for download). Dell maybe sells 1% of their computers with *nix on it. So 99% of the money you spend goes into supporting..... wait for it...... a CLOSED OS. moron
- baalzebub, on 12/20/2007, -5/+3John Hull looks just a little bit like Peter Garrett lead vocals of Midnight Oil...
- sotopheavy, on 12/20/2007, -4/+1If people developed high end games for Linux I would try to switch again!
- ToastedZergling, on 12/20/2007, -7/+3I need a plot synopsis or abstract. Too many words.
- rmxz, on 12/20/2007, -6/+2Kinda like they did back in 2000, no?
http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/66081
"# Aug 2000 ยท Michael Dell says "configurations of all Dell products are now designed, tested and certified for Linux. Our factories can now customize each system -- from PCs to servers -- with Linux. " - crossmr, on 12/20/2007, -8/+2Why? to play the one game under linux that would be high end? Quake 4?
You can configure the rest of the laptops with fast processors and memory.
I don't see the need to really put Linux on the XPS line. - bonkerz990, on 12/20/2007, -10/+2oooh DVD Playback support! That is so cool! I'd like to buy that. Check it out guys my new dell with linux can play dvd's!
- pcgeek101, on 12/20/2007, -12/+2My laptop is a year and a half old, and it's still high-end (Core Duo T2500, 2GB RAM, 17" WUXGA+ Ultrasharp LCD) ..... so, yeah, what were you talking about?
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