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- schestowitz, on 10/17/2007, -9/+49Not faster. *MUCH* faster.
Server sales turn vendors into very happy bunnies
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| X86 server sales generated 50 per cent of factory revenue for the first time,
| growing 16 per cent year on year. Sales of Windows servers grew by 14 per
| cent annually but Linux revs were up 34 per cent.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41 ...
34 per cent is nothing to sneeze at. It's also the reason for all the recent FUD attacks. - darkane, on 10/18/2007, -14/+41You need to understand that a 1,000% increase on 20 still doesn't compare to a 50% increase on 10,000,000. Displaying statistics in this fashion is deceptive.
- edzilla, on 10/17/2007, -4/+24The article talks about servers, not desktop.
- edzilla, on 10/17/2007, -0/+15Again, the article is talking about server sale, which dell has been offering for a long while, not desktop...
- daftman, on 10/17/2007, -1/+15You are assuming that Linux server sales is at 20 while Microsoft is at 10m.
Microsoft is probably good at the desktop market but let's not kid ourself in the server market.
The majority of the server market is taken by Unix servers and Sun servers. Major companies are replacing their Unix servers with cheaper Linux alternatives rather than Microsoft. Why do you think Microsoft need this "get the fact campaign" if Linux only sell 20 while they are 10 million?
Statistic is displayed like this because Dell never specify units sold. It is good because you can see what product are rising and which product are falling. It is best to look at the rate of increase rather than a simple percentage of increase.
1000% increase of 20 over 3 years quarterly would eclipse 50% increase of 10 million in the same time frame. Go and get a scientific calculator out and see if it still hold that much numbers. - inactive, on 10/17/2007, -1/+14Server != Desktop. Apache has the largest marketshare of web servers. Extrapolate from this the fact that there are a LOT of *nix servers out there, more than Windows ones. Most of these boxes are linux. Get it now?
- LinuxKitty, on 10/16/2007, -0/+11You mean like the patent lawsuits against Microsoft? For example the successful one by Thompson concerning MP3. You see, Linux is free, both as in beer and speech. There is little profit to make. But Microsoft violates software patents and makes profit by doing so. Besides, I'm in Europe, and software patents phase me little.
- neko, on 10/17/2007, -0/+11"More linux spam".
In the Linux/Unix category.
OH MAI GAWD! - smek2, on 10/16/2007, -1/+10Your Blog post contained 5 sentences, the majority of it was a quote you've taken from elsewhere. Bravo.
- init100, on 10/17/2007, -1/+10"The real benchmark of how many linux machines are sold is to look at things like the top500 list"
Hehe. On that list, Linux commands a 77.8% market share. - waddling, on 10/17/2007, -7/+16You're telling me there are people out there stupid enough to still use Windoze servers?
- Phocion55, on 10/17/2007, -0/+9Ahhh more incoherent ramblings of someone who is threatened by the success of Linux in recent years.
- dojonz, on 10/17/2007, -0/+8Hello Dave, you're looking well today.
- Philluminati, on 10/16/2007, -0/+7Apache != Linux
- DustyinBFE, on 10/17/2007, -0/+7I didn't realize Microsoft was paying their employees to spam Digg now. Must be a one of those undergrad inter jobs that have about as much success ... as well, Vista. =)
- Gabberwok, on 10/17/2007, -20/+27I'm not a fan of Windows, but I'm not sure this is such a big deal. Windows essentially already had market saturation, Linux is a relatively new offering from Dell, so of course they are going to see Linux sales increase faster than Windows sales... I assume he's talking about percentage increases, in which case the Linux market from Dell is certainly still much smaller than the Windows market, so a much bigger percentage from Linux would still probably be a much smaller increase in actual sales.... It's still a step in the right direction, though...
- Hungryhaney, on 10/16/2007, -0/+71 + 2 = 2?
- arjie, on 10/16/2007, -1/+7Dude, Linux From Scratch, or Gentoo or any distro with a package manager. Besides, in Ubuntu, we have this thing called Synaptic (portage in Gentoo) and we remove packages with that which we don't need, then we install stuff that we do want. I know it's revolutionary, but I think you can get the hang of it.
Also, try AtheneOS, run it without the xserver, the 2d graphics framework it uses is way faster than anything I've seen. The OS itself is not for me, I prefer Ubuntu, but you may find it interesting. Actually, what you want is your own distro. Like you said, you only care what YOU want, so either you pay someone to put the parts together according to your needs or you do it yourself. Miracles where people actually look into your head and read your mind and decide out of the goodness of their heart to put it together for you don't actually happen. - objectcode, on 10/16/2007, -0/+5"Linux/UNIX take the top spot, with 39% of the market, followed by 32-bit windows (NT and 2000) at 36%, and Novell a distant third at 19%."
- dougallj, on 10/18/2007, -6/+11So they're increasing... But how big are Linux server sales, compared to Windows?
- JamesWilson, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5Might as well. ASP.NET doesn't mean I'm running IIS, I could be running mono. Not likely, though.
- srg13, on 10/16/2007, -1/+6It's nothing at all about being an underdog - I just find windows (and all of its problems) intolerable, and therefore use Linux.
- azprofessional, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5Yes because Linux programmers and the market really care about what YOU want buddy no matter how impratical or incomprehensible.
Typical - missingnoh4x, on 10/16/2007, -0/+5No *****. Even the most diehard Microsoft sites don't use Windows for servers.
- infiniphunk, on 10/17/2007, -0/+4Thank you for that SCO.
If you really dislike linux and linux users so much, maybe you should stay away from there 'spam threads' and spend your time more productively by doing things like updating your antivirus, reading EULA's and cleaning out your 'Registry'.
Picture Windows users in 5 years; still using XP and still having wet dreams about Micro$oft releasing GOOD software. - inactive, on 10/17/2007, -0/+4This shouldn't really be a surprise. Anyone whose worked in IT knows that UNIX-based servers run more stable than Windows servers.
But this doesn't really reveal anything relating to people using Linux on their home PCs---if that's what some of you are getting at. - SirBotchness, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4How is this surprising? Linux servers are a ton cheaper, always have been.
- tdgx, on 10/16/2007, -2/+6This will surely displease Darth Ballmer.
- Chicken001, on 10/17/2007, -3/+7I'd say that Dell's move is a great movel. They have been slumping recently, but I think this can boost it.
- objectcode, on 10/17/2007, -2/+6UNIX/Linux server marketshare is already beating windows
- chowmeined, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3Sounds like what you want is either OpenBSD or a minimal install of Debian (for a server). If you want to go smaller, Linux can do that too, it works great for embedded systems, it runs on my Linksys router (which only has 4MB of flash memory).
- Cherubim, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3I don't think anyone disputes that GNU/Linux is an ideal server platform. Microsoft is also doing well with its scalable Windows Server 2003 products, so there really is room for both.
- inactive, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3Yet you feel compelled to post rants about linux on Linux articles. Yep. You're really not giving a ***** about Linux...
- TillDerToder, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4"Those of us who dislike aspects of Linux actually have USED Linux before."
Ok...I've used Linux a plenty in the past, and I enjoy it quite a bit. What's your point?
"And I'm not talking about loading a livecd of ubuntu and using firefox and going 'this is pretty!'"
Neither am I...
"I'm talking getting down to the nitty gritty of server administration."
Ok...like what? Rolling your own distro, or is that too nitty gritty? Are you talking about maybe writing your own init scripts? Building your own software? Configuring and maintaining servers? What exactly are you saying is the "nitty gritty" of server administration?
Don't get me wrong -- Linux is not for everyone, but that doesn't mean it's not good for anyone, either. As I said earlier, I have used Linux quite a bit and enjoy using it. Actually, it's provided me with quite a nice livelihood -- I've been the Linux admin for an ISP/consulting firm in my hometown for about 2 years, now, and don't intend to stop anytime soon. - objectcode, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3i use linux, and i bet im not listed in the marketshare. a lot of linux users are not reported in marketshare because there is no way to find everyone. same way im probably not listed in the windows marketshare because i didn't pay for windows
- DangerCollie, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4If I'm building a HA system it's sure not going to be on MSFT products. Not so much because they don't work, I develop on Windows as well, but because of the license cost. On a big system that's a huge tab. The advantage to F/OSS is the ability to scale on demand to meet additional load.
- Smok3y, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3Obvious troll is obvious, guys. Didn't even make sense.
- magamiako, on 10/16/2007, -2/+5Comparatively speaking, Windows Vista is small by former PC standards. When I got my first computer it was a 386sx 33 with a 40MB hard drive and 4MB of ram. DOS6.22 and Windows 3.1 took up 13-14MB of space on the system. That was about 35% of my hard drive used to hold the operating systems. Windows Vista at 15G uses 1.6% of my total space (900G). Even an average user with a 250G drive, Vista only uses 6% of its space.
- infiniphunk, on 10/17/2007, -3/+6I couldn't have said it better arjie.
"but I hate Linux more"
Someone comes along and offers you something useful for free. And you hate it?? - inactive, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3Wait, companies use non-linux servers? I think that should be the headline.
- fkr3, on 10/16/2007, -14/+1634% of not much is not as good as 14% of a hell of a lot.
- Cherubim, on 10/17/2007, -2/+4I really don't comprehend peoples hate for GNU/Linux. It's a solid operating system for client and server use with none of the nasties one would find in a Windows product. The usability and performance of GNU/Linux distros is significantly improved, so any suggestion that GNU/Linux is hard or difficult to use is rubbish.
- schotty, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2Which for the record, has been being sold for a while now (2001 or so).
- Hungryhaney, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2And yet you prove yourself to be threatened by it.
- yodaj007, on 10/16/2007, -1/+3I've administered several Linux boxes in an enterprise environment. And I wouldn't want to run anything else in a server environment. Just what "nitty gritty" are you talking about? Or is that coming out of your ass?
- jdhore1, on 10/16/2007, -1/+3I read that as titties...Oh crap...Am i turning into Sean Connery from Celebrity Jeopardy?
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! ... !!!
- duhblah, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2I think you make some valid points, but it is worth emphasizing that this is not my experience. I guess the point is, I'm glad I work for my company and not yours, because my boss will ask me for a solution (which I'm happy to provide) and you would ask redhat for a solution. Also worth mentioning - the only problems I ever really get is with new hardware. Once the initial problem of getting Linux to work is done, there is nothing left to pay support for - it keeps running. Updates become available (freely) and are installed if required - nobody has to ask or pay for them.
- magamiako, on 10/16/2007, -1/+3Because no company in their right mind would get the product without support, and factor support costs into the TCO. If you don't factor the support cost into TCO then I really feel sorry for any company you work for in IT.
- lofilotek, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1I think its great that Dell is offering a alternative solution. The average user does not know about the open source movement, not that average users buy servers :-P, but I hope this exposes to people to tons of great software out there that is free, beyond the operating system. @ Work I use Windows Server 2003, Redhat, Mac Os Server and they all work fine so its more about options then bashing one of them for me.
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