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- ThantiK, on 02/01/2009, -15/+76Microsoft - We are coming for you.
Sincerely,
The Open Source Community. - scy1192, on 02/01/2009, -2/+53From the FAQ: "How can I get access to Forge.mil?
Forge.mil is available to U.S. military, DoD government civilians and DoD contractors for Government authorized use. Access to Forge.mil requires a valid DoD Common Access Card (CAC) or a PKI certificate issues by a DoD approved External Certificate Authority (ECA)."
http://forgemil.com/faqs.html#faqs4
something tells me this won't catch on with the public. Sourceforge is safe. - MikeSD34, on 02/01/2009, -1/+32The DOD has their own certificate authority and it's not pre-installed with windows/linux/mac. I've never understood it but I'm sure they have there reasons.
http://forgemil.com/faqs.html#faqs7 - bigteebo, on 02/01/2009, -1/+31Hey guys, new beta of the nuclear missile launcher software released! They fixed the detonates missile while still in silo bug.
Seriously, it's a good idea. - twiztidsinz, on 02/01/2009, -0/+22Do YOU trust the government? </tinfoilhat>
- Nouman6, on 02/01/2009, -9/+30'www.forgemil.com uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is not trusted.'
way to go government - inactive, on 02/01/2009, -6/+26Bill Gates, we know it's you, get off our Digg.
- TonyTheTerrible, on 02/01/2009, -2/+22I can't wait to see this pick up
- gn0stik, on 02/01/2009, -0/+16They are not trying to compete with sourceforge. It's going to be "open" source across the DOD. This stuff won't be GNU, and likely won't EVER be released to the public. However, I'm joining on monday.
- TheSabre, on 02/01/2009, -0/+14I'm sure they bought forgemil.com as a redirect to forge.mil. Registering a .com is a matter of minutes, registering .mil, .gov, and .edu with DNS root servers takes much longer. The .com version probably just propagated faster due to the overwhelming number of root DNS servers for .com, .net, .org, etc.
- Fr33th0t, on 02/01/2009, -0/+13Of course it is--this isn't intended to compete. It is however a foundational step toward creating an infrastructure that would allow the military to maintain their own distro.
Hopefully they will use the concept to maintain all the software they create. - inactive, on 02/01/2009, -1/+14Either you support the military industrial complex, perfecting the next warfare or mega corporation devouring independent small business ingenuity. Its a lose-lose situation
- twiztidsinz, on 02/01/2009, -0/+10forge.mil is not resolving currently, but that doesn't mean it wont eventually.
- celotil, on 02/01/2009, -7/+16They call it Forge.mil but the actual URL is forgemil.com.
*facepalm* - MunroCool, on 02/01/2009, -4/+13I'm not either, yet I digg you down and digg up the article.
- Cl1mh4224rd, on 02/01/2009, -1/+10TheSabre wrote:
> "How does the domain registrar affect security?"
If anyone were to gain access to that GoDaddy account, they could probably point forge.mil and forgemil.com to a different server and snag some government credentials.
I'd imagine the government has their own authoritative DNS server(s) for .mil, so that's probably not even an issue.
*shrug* - JQP123, on 02/01/2009, -4/+13The government has been involved with "open source" from way back when "open source' was called "public domain".
- inactive, on 02/01/2009, -1/+10Bitter much? Regardless of where it's from (and where you're from), it's still news for the open source community.
- dotRoot, on 02/01/2009, -0/+8It isn't about the public really. The DoD has recently released a social engine, sort of like MySpace and FaceBook, but for DoD personel, where they can discuss things that aren't public. I'm sure the same reasons fall into Forge.mil.
- spyd3rweb, on 02/01/2009, -8/+16Why not just use sourceforge.
- TheSabre, on 02/01/2009, -1/+9Your point? Just because it is registered somewhere does not mean it is on their servers or anything. How does the domain registrar affect security?
- twiztidsinz, on 02/01/2009, -0/+7Shouldn't be a digg effect since forgemil.com works
- bsmang, on 02/01/2009, -0/+7It's resolving fine, even answers pings, but won't serve up a page. Digg effect?
- waspbr, on 02/01/2009, -0/+7funny, ppl in ESA (European Space Agency) were doing something similar, they are working on an open source repository of aero-space engineering software... I am glad the open-source software community is getting recognized.
- trogdoor, on 02/01/2009, -0/+7Why not RTFA where they stated that access is much more tightly secured than sourceforge?
- Chaulis, on 02/01/2009, -1/+8Well if you had read the article, you may have noticed the part in the FAQ about that concerning installing the root certificate servers to your browers for the DoD certs.
- inactive, on 02/01/2009, -0/+6What does Obama and the Obamabots have to do with this?
- TheSabre, on 02/01/2009, -0/+6Open Source != GPL. They can have their own internal licenses that do not allow public access and still have the source openly available to licensees.
- kthoma22, on 02/01/2009, -3/+9The military has always been using open source software and OS. I worked in the defense industry and Linux was used all the time as well as gcc/g++.
- se7envii, on 02/01/2009, -0/+6I dunno... for security reasons maybe?
- Heikell, on 02/01/2009, -2/+7The actual link is Forge.mil which you will only get there with an approved DoD CaC Card Certificate. Otherwise you will only be able to go to forgemil.com. I'm on forge.mil right now.
- yurimxpxman, on 02/01/2009, -1/+6gn0stik, e-mail me the warez.. kk?
- DeanCB, on 02/01/2009, -1/+6Yeah, this SCREAMS government...
www.forgemil.com is an alias for forgemil.com.
forgemil.com has address 71.163.169.73
forgemil.com mail is handled by 10 mailstore1.secureserver.net.
forgemil.com mail is handled by 0 smtp.secureserver.net.
73.169.163.71.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer static-71-163-169-73.washdc.fios.verizon.net.
Excellent job, government! - ramup, on 02/01/2009, -1/+6I hate you..
- Mihai12345, on 02/01/2009, -3/+8I looked up forgemil.com, it's registered at Godaddy... this screams "secure".
http://whois.domaintools.com/forgemil.com - balaknair, on 02/02/2009, -0/+4Human suffering caused in many cases by companies funded by the Gates Foundation itself.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la- ...
The Gates Foundation gives away at least 5% of its worth every year, to avoid paying most taxes. The remaining 95% is invested, much of it in companies which include some of the worst polluters in the world. Spending $218 million to fight Polio and Measles worldwide is a good deed, but the Gates Foundation also invests ~$3.3 billion in companies ranked among the worst polluters in the world. The polluting factories are in third world countries like Nigeria, and the pollution they cause is far in excess of what is permitted in the US or Europe. The toxic byproducts of these factories pollute water and air for miles around, "lower immunity, [sic], and make children such as Justice Eta more susceptible to polio and measles".
All Gates has to do if he really wants to help these kids is influence the company he holds stock in to reduce pollution levels. - scootinger, on 02/01/2009, -0/+4Not entirely...they have subdomains under forge.mil (ie software.forge.mil)
- flyer, on 02/01/2009, -1/+5I wonder how you calculate the number of exclamation point. Only two this time. I'm sure you would get more diggs with a few more.
- wendall911, on 02/01/2009, -1/+5We'll get dugg down for pointing out that this isn't a government project. Rather a civilian project posing as a government project. It may certainly have ties to the military, but doesn't look like it is a govt. project at all.
- scy1192, on 02/01/2009, -0/+4the DoD even owns the .mil TLD
- Atomic1fire, on 02/02/2009, -0/+4While I don't exactly support many of obamas policies,
the really sensitive millitary stuff is not networked to anything anyway.
and I seriously doubt that the banking industry would let themselves get compromised, regardless of government policy.
In fact the financial industry as far as I know uses Linux because of security and stability.
and I doubt they would invest in anything that was not secure,
and the biggest advantage of open source is that any flaws can be reviewed, and fixed. whereas a contract with a software company that is not open source could be devastating to the government, and the company would assume responsibility, since they made the program.
If its a foreign company, that could be of serious concern.
Open source is probably better as far as making sure there are no backdoor's or security holes in the software.
where a malicious employee or foreign entity oould seriously hurt our infrastructure. - OminousC, on 02/01/2009, -0/+4"The dam holding back U.S. federal adoption of open source" -- Are you kidding? Do you actually have any idea how much the federal gov't has been involved in or utilizing open source?
And as to re-inventing the wheel? Well, it's better than using some junk CM software like rational CC, right? - wendall911, on 02/01/2009, -1/+5I see comments about people visiting forge.mil ... I call BS. forgemil.com, which is the site in the article is a private website. If someone does some research, it is likely just a private company trying to get money through some government project. The article is very inaccurate. This has nothing to do with the military, or it would be on a legit .mil or .gov site.
- theweblug, on 02/01/2009, -2/+6One could make the case that the United States Constitution was the first use of Open Source in history. ;)
- chevriley, on 02/02/2009, -0/+4i hate people who whinge about 'redundant' words after acronyms. its only redundant if you knew what the acronym meant. otherwise its descriptive. i now know that a CaC is a card - thank you extra word!
- cran, on 02/01/2009, -3/+6Source Forge is a proprietary software system which can be licensed. I fail to see why this is noteworthy news in 2009.
- c130commnav, on 02/01/2009, -0/+3Now I kind of wish I had a smart card reader at home, guess I will have to wait until I got to work Monday to check it out
- dotRoot, on 02/01/2009, -1/+4I'll be on there tomorrow. Maybe I should bring a CaC card reader home too ;).
- yurimxpxman, on 02/01/2009, -0/+3I wouldn't consider this very secure, considering half the people who commented claim to have access to it, which means at least one or two of them probably do.
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