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- diggapleaze, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30debian.org needs more than a style change, it needs a complete rehaul of the site's navigation structure. The links are way too confusing for new users, and it is very hard to find a clear answer to the question "Ok which ISO do I download"? Links to the jigdos and bittorrents shouldn't be placed so prominently on the page with the http downloads relatively hidden away, that's just bad usability for inexperienced users. I hate to say it but, once again, take a cue from Ubuntu and make an easy to navigate, clear, and useful website.
Debian is my favourite distro, but I've always thought that the website is the worst thing about it. - Soldierboi, on 05/09/2008, -1/+20Ack, this is a *mockup* that may or may not be accepted by Debian.org. Not only that, but it is still in its early stages. Didn't mean to mislead anyone with the title, I simply didn't fully read the content that I was submitting. Be gentle. =/
- dolemite5005, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Definitely not web 2.0 enough.
- rfeldbauer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13... and walked several miles uphill in the snow to get a box of floppies to put those files on.
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Less is more.
2 years ago I said that the site misrepresents the projects only to be told off slightly. The matter of fact is that the bells-and-whistles, Flash-rich, bandwidth-consuming, SE-unoptimised, inaccessible (e.g. to the blind, PDAs, etc) Web sites are very much passe. That reached the end of the line in the late 90s. Many graphical Web sites have gone lean.. and filled with subtsnace instead. Debian would do great without a change. Just like the O/S, one can add a custom CSS (or DE) to build up on top of the basic and rudimentary. It's easy to enrich, harder to detract. - DoctorCal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9If you have abilities in this area, you should offer to help. Seriously.
- Giga, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"Definitely not web 2.0 enough."
That would be a good thing... - Karmalary, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8In my day, you got a stack of blank key-punch cards.
- scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9In my day, you got an /Index and some cryptic files and considered yourself lucky.
- stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Definitely not web 2.0 enough."
Have you seen the current debian.org? This person's facelift is web 3.0 compared to what Debian has now. - ordminute, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The red strips on the left of the menu items don't match the red in the logo. they are also a little ugly in themselves - do they need to be there at all? The fonts look a little soft in color. It could be hard to read for some.
Otherwise good. - rr525356, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Just goes to show what you can do when you harness the full power of GIMP.
(I kid) - championchap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Fully agreed. When i first got curious about Linux a friend ogf mine pointed me at Debian.. but I got scared away by the website.
Its both horrible to look at, and difficult to use.
A redesign dosnt have to mean using a billion images and a lot of AJAX or Flash.
Just make it easier to use and look better, it can still be clean and simple. - Giga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"... and walked several miles uphill in the snow to get a box of floppies to put those files on."
Don't forget that the return trip is uphill as well. - h0ly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Amazing, this joke always ends up with the line about punch cards...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Gah! Looks like a programmer designed it.
- pllb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'll take a rock solid and stable OS with an old website layout over an over-hyped flaky distro and a pretty website anyday =)
- TheOther1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Then please have a look at this page. Debian could use your help.
http://www.us.debian.org/intro/help - ordminute, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agree, the Debian website is one of the hardest to use out there. It has really poor information management - odd given the ease of use of Debian systems themselves.
- netzdamon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not a debian fan but personally i like the layout, clean and simple. Screw web2.0 for the most part. Not every site has a use for it in my opinion. Good job.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Content should always be the focus of a website, then standards. All the flashy stuff can take a back seat and should be included only if it adds something.
- spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4about 8 years overdue.
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4In my day we used an abacus...and liked it!
- w3bsmith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3And the work in progress is where? ;)
Seriously. We need some real web designers to take a look at this. I could design a better one. Of course that's what I do for a living so ... I guess not fair. - plagiats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree on the readability of grey text on white background. search box could be placed in the top-right corner, as there is a lot of empty unused space up there.
- kitfrog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1At least the current draft design is a bit cleaner and simpler than the existing site. Any improvement is still an improvement! But I really hope they don't design the website by committee, because then the redesign will have a release schedule longer than sarge...
- Deselect, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1NetzDamon: While most "Web 2.0" sites happen to use big bubbly, shiny graphics, that is not what Web 2.0 is about. Contrary to popular belief, the point that many of us are trying to get across is the usage of standards valid code and implementing user accessibility (XHTML/CSS). I am not a fan of the coined term "Web 2.0" but it is important to move past the broken state of the internet's overwhelming amount of "design-by-tables" and "not-even-html-4-valid" sites.
It is especially sad to see the ratio of GNU/Linux sites that fall under this category. - HarryHunt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The debian website has always had too much text on the frontpage and the new design doesn't seem to address that problem. Check out the ubuntu website for a somewhat less cluttered frontpage that still gets its point across.
I personally believe the new design isn't enough of an improvement over the existing design to justify switching designs. - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Debian 'til I die, but that doesn't surprise me, since refusing help is one of the things the OTD does best. :(
PS: It drives me mad, too. - kingyubba, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1what, no command line interface?!??!
i keed. i keed. - raynevandunem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Just do like the folks at http://en.opensuse.org and give it a wiki interface.
Not only multilingual, but brain-dead simple (to both edit and render). - hometack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Even if this were a real work in progress, does anyone really care about the redesign of the debian website?
- transition, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Lets hope it doesn't come out looking like Michael Jackson..
- Deselect, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1For the record, I would like to say that I offered a total redesign of the site, as well.
Being a web designer who promotes web standards and believes that these ideals tie in with the GNU/Linux and Debian way of doing things, I offered to design the site to appropriate standards (with CSS/XHTML Strict). It always shocks me to see how many devoted Linux users out there who promote "doing things right" still do not know how to properly create websites. To my surprise I was turned down with the reasoning that they liked things the way they were and saw no need to make it any different.
Reminiscent of Windows users, no? - wush, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Behold the typically nasty Linux text rendering in the screenshot :p
- LucianSolaris, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1That design is an eyesore! Nothing jumps out at me! Everything looks flat!
I hope this isn't the new look >.>
At least it isn't web 2.0! - hamobu, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4I agree! I like debian site because it is simple. KISS
- Farik, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Looks like every other open source/Linux web site out there to me.
Check out the new & improved 
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