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- Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Honestly, you should care. If it weren't for the hard work of the Debian developers, et. al., you wouldn't have Ubuntu. Even if you did have Ubuntu, it would not be anywhere as good as it is if it were based on something else like Fedora or OpenSuSE.
Personally, I would rather use vanilla Debian than either Fedora or OpenSuSE for apt alone. - diggapleaze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9this article lost all it's credibility as soon as I read the words: "extremely attractive Xandros"
- bgreen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@jdhore1 - "FreeBSD has almost no community and it's used so widely, why? because it's about the most stable Linux OS you can find, no other reason"
FreeBSD is not Linux. Similar, but different, and worth pointing out. - jdhore1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Ubuntu, SuSe and Fedora are better at community, but they've strayed so far from what Linux really is...Let's compare Debian and Ubuntu (since Ubuntu is based on Debian): Debian's smaller, faster, more secure and more stable than any Ubuntu release and that's what makes it great....FreeBSD has almost no community and it's used so widely, why? because it's about the most stable Linux OS you can find, no other reason...all these Distros are not trying to compete in the same market (except for Ubuntu, SuSe and Fedora) so this is a dead argument...For Example, Debian works great as a desktop OS for people who know a bit about linux (i run it as such) and a server OS, but FreeBSD i think most people would NEVER use as a desktop OS, but it rocks as a server OS...just my opinion i guess
- 8-bit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I use Ubuntu but tried debian yesterday. Don't let this article persuade you in the wrong direction. Debian is solid and just as easy to use as edgy.
- baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3after taking a quick peek at ktorrent sitting in my task tray there are LOTS of people very interested in Debian, i been seeding since yesterday and i bet the downloading wont lighten up for another week, Ubuntu may be #1 at distrowatch and and have a vocal majority here at Digg but i bet there are far more silent Linux users that been using Linux for years that still adhere to the "old school" method of installing/administering & using Linux mostly prefering distros like Debian & Slackware both of which offer a finer grained ability to customize both for desktop/workstations & servers...
- baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the iceweasel is a minor annoyance, i was annoyed about iceweasel because i thought the Debian developers should have had better things to do than to rebuild Firefox, Thunderbird & Seamonkey just because of an icon & name, if i had anything to do with it i would just build Mozilla's products leaving them intact the way mozilla wanted them to be...
compile the source for Firefox with as little config parameters as possible and intact without patches and you would end up with a browser named BonEcho and a blue globe for an icon. and i am sure when Firefox version 3 is released it will have another code name (granparadiso?)... - sirhomer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This article will not make the front page due to the fact it does not have "Ubuntu" in title. Next time I recommend this title:
**UBUNTU** Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care? **UBUNTU** - McTendo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Agreed. Xandros was the very first Linux distro I ever tried and it almost made me go back to XP. I had read in several articles it was great for users who had never used Linux before and boy was I wrong. I had for less then a week then found out about SuSe10. The only reason I got rid of SUSE after that was to try Ubuntu. Xandros..arg, so many bad memories.
- subgeniusd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I think for Windows migrants Ubuntu etc will be more then "small, fast, secure and stable" enough.
Article conclusion: "It seems to me that while Debian in the past has been the solid foundation of such excellent distributions as Ubuntu and MEPIS, this release shows that openSUSE and Fedora are the community Linuxes of the future."
Perhaps the Linux distro movement has matured past the point of "community" as the primary measure of validity. And besides Mepis and others have large and active communities so what's the big deal? - atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"this release shows that openSUSE and Fedora are the community Linuxes of the future. " -- oh... please... there are like 150 distros based on Debian directly or indirectly. From those 5 are on distrowatch top 10, and one is on the first place. Not to forget to mention that other distros benefit from Debian too (PCLinuxOS which uses Debian developed apt-get)
- CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My first Linux was Debian, .92, in 1995. It wasn't easy to install or get configured correctly (especially X11), certainly, but I would guess that nothing at that time was "easy".
Every once in a while I will try a different Linux distribution. Or, like RedHat, it was thrust upon me by the place I worked.
I always return to Debian, because it just works.
The number of other distributions that base their work on Debian is a testament to the successful labors of the Debian Developers. The fact that the F/OSS community has to deal with license absurdities that lead to things like Iceweasel is not a negative towards the Debian developers at all.
I consider it wonderful that the DDs stand up for what is right to the point where they _will_ do something like Iceweasel when it needs doing.
If the larger "community" and Netscrape don't like Iceweasel, maybe they should change their license. - CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My hope is that, after using Ubuntu for a while, those who run into versioning problems with Ubuntu will try straight Debian.
Considering how much of Ubuntu is based upon Debian Unstable, "unstable" takes on a whole new meaning with Linux: Changing, not crashing. - schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Give SJVN a break. He tries not to be portrayed as a blinded Linux fanboy, which would lead to loss of credibility.
- frase, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I use FreeBSD as a desktop OS. It rocks, and I couldn't ever imagine using Linux in its place!
- CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This is the writer I have come to call "SJVN-Hyde". His phrases often come out sounding like they were written by a smart person being paid by the Microsoft marketing department as a professional astroturfer.
SJVN-Hyde works exclusively for LinuxWatch.
Other places, such as DeskTopLinux, SJVN-Jekyll writes the posts. His phrases are accurate, interesting, even insightful, and always telling of the benefits, efforts and successes (even in overcoming their own limitations) of F/OSS developers and the user community. I would be very interested to see the SJVN-Jekyll version of this article.
I could see SJVN-Jekyll shine through just a little, even in a LinuxWatch article, when he mentioned recently how SCO was being completely insane in their lawsuit filings. But that is all that Hyde has allowed. - jdhore1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1true, FreeBSD's not linux...but i wasn't getting into the argument for that fact...
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