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- andrewtheart, on 11/17/2008, -2/+32This is crap.
The refutation from the comments --
OK - you say “Almost None” of the Google Applications support Linux, yet you only can name two BRAND NEW applications that don’t support Linux. Google Earth, Picasa, Google Desktop, Google Widgets, ALL support Linux.
Google is a huge sponsor of Linux, uses Ubuntu internally on desktops (new Google employees are asked “Windows, Mac or Linux” when being assigned a machine). Also, as you can read here: http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2008/11/ ... Google, along with Motorola has become GNOME sponsors, helping to promote the most popular Linux desktop.
Have you heard of the G1 “Google Phone” - running Android? Did you know that’s Linux based, not to mention the literally thousands of Linux servers that power Google’s backbone.
I’m not sure about the new Video chat, but I do know it works on Mac, because in the Demo I watched on the Google Blog, the Google employee doing the demo was using a Mac, but I haven’t tried it in either Mac or Linux.
As for Chrome - it’s coming - you just have to be patient. It seems to me that Chrome just lended itself more easily to the Windows API and they are still working to get a non-crude, polished version that works as expected for Linux and Mac OS X before they release it. They aren’t going to release garbage into the wild just to satisfy people - it would do them more harm to do that, than to wait until it’s ready for consumption.
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What was the response to that? From the comments (the author of the original article I believe) --
"@Jayson Rowe: Jayson I am not saying that google does not support linux but every single app they come out with does not support linux immediately as far as the android I own one and I also develop."
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...wow. He loses - dereksdontrun, on 11/17/2008, -0/+9God. The author of the "article" seems like a 12 year old that just discovered the internet (e.g. "a$$").
- czarr, on 11/17/2008, -0/+7Which part of "Open source" suggests they would be "cross platform"
- weizbox, on 11/17/2008, -1/+8This is article is laughable... Google does a great job with releasing software/services that work with Linux compared to... almost any other corporation :P
- kd420, on 11/17/2008, -0/+7It's a bit hasty to say there is a Google OS coming out and that's why they haven't released Chrome and Video Chat for Linux yet. It is, however, very disappointing. Don't get me wrong, it's a smart decision from a corporate standpoint to release things on Window's first (bulk of the market) and then get around to Mac/Linux. But it is disappointing that Google took the same approach almost every company has taken, when they have made a reputation of being unique in terms of open source software.
In the end, it's not a huge deal. They will make their applications available to other platforms just like Google Earth and Picasa. Any disappointment (as I have expressed) is only a result of unreal expectations of Google being some sort of super-company that will bring equality to the OS market. If there is a time when new applications (and drivers!) come from companies to all platforms at the same time, it won't be because of Google, but because those OS's have earned a large enough market share by themselves. - p1eiades, on 11/17/2008, -0/+6Wow... a company investing in areas where they can maximize their customer base.
- MrViklund, on 11/17/2008, -1/+6Cry me a river drama queen...
- rudy23, on 11/17/2008, -0/+4No seriously do we need more retarded headlines like this?
- aspec, on 11/17/2008, -0/+4I agree. It appears that the author of this article has confused "Open Source" with "we'll do anything you want for free".
- pierre, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3works great for mac... check your facts
- ThsGuyRightHere, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3The Google approach is come up with something, release it in beta and see if it gets traction, then run with it. It takes more development resources to release to multiple platforms, and releasing only to Linux would only hit a cross section of the user population. Can't say I'd do it any different.
- Dalhectar, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2You're bitching about Chrome and video chat? How many of Google's web services can't work with a Linux compatible web browser like Firefox? The point of the cloud should be that any OS should connect to the cloud services, and Google has lead the way in that regard. If anything, Linux users should push Google to support the cloud more. It doesn't matter what OS you use if you interface with it via a standards compliant browser.
- bigsteve, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2Yea. This is sensational *****. Bury as inaccurate.
- Phoenixheart, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2Yes, maybe... But don't Linux users like you know that Google Search is on a *nix server?
- nochilinopity, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2HAHA...that's a good one.
- mohtasham, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2Basically, google has proved that when they make a beta software, it remains beta forever. Look at gmail. When it was launched? I guess it's been more than 4 years now. It's still beta. So don't expect to see the linux version of chrom in the near future.
Why google is making applications for windows? Because most people use Linux. Then why don't they include one of the Linux flavors in google app? This way a lot of people use Linux and Microsoft will be out of business soon. - andrewtheart, on 11/18/2008, -0/+1...which is exactly what Google does. However, that take the intelligent approach of staggering the Linux and Mac releases so they can focus their money and efforts on Windows and get the product out to a larger testing bed. When the product gets to Linux, besides the platform-specific issues, the product itself is fairly polished in terms of features and support.
- Vadi0, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1I fail to see any reason at all as to why chat cannot work. Flash works with my webcam just fine when even Cheese fails to do so.
- YodaJones, on 11/17/2008, -3/+4Where is Chrome for Linux?
- XVampireX, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1The only problem on Linux may seem right now v4l2 in regards to the video chat that they added in gmail.
But there's no reason not to release something like GTalk on Linux while it was still voice chat based... - XVampireX, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1maximizing = 100%
Windows is probably now around 85% of total user base. - diggic, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1Guys lets turn the picture around and let say everything that is ONLY supported for Windows becomes Linux, wouldn't you be pissed off that only LINUX users can test Chrome , Video Chat and other apps? Sorry maybe I am just too much pissed off to see every f*** product being ONLY released for Windows yet we (Nix*) users have to wait 6 months or 1 year and more for something that is already old in the industry..you know what? F*** that! Apps like that should be released for 3 major OS Windows, Mac and Linux at the same time and not going just by majority.
Have you ever look at the traffic statistics? Sort it by OS/Browser and that will tell you exactly what I am talking about. - Knet88, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1You know, I do wish that their programs worked naively, instead of just through WINE. But I still think they are on the right track.
- 1n4007, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1Wrong. Picasa uses WineLIB. This means it results in a native binary.
Google Earth is supported natively.
Stop spreading lies. - lizard450, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1You’re an idiot. Most of Google’s stuff is open source. Open source means that in releasing their product they also release the source code. This way developers (like me though not me) can modify it, inspect it, fix it, upgrade it and do anything I damn well please to it but it is binded by the original software license and usually any useful modifications are submitted back to the project so others can benefit from the developer's need/good will. It has absolutely nothing to do with compatibility among systems, cost, sucking more or less. What was that? Open source code you need to pay for? Yup, it exists but most open source projects have a support subscription. So, in conclusion you’re a moron.
- chudgoo, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1CONFIRMED-
Video Gchat works on mac. - skywake, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1But you would have to ask what the OS split is with people who are likely to use googles products. A fair percentage of that huge Windows marketshare are people who still use IE6 and would look at you strangely if you said that google did stuff outside of "googling". Its likely that Windows still holds the majority market in the "people who are interested in google products" group but I don't think its as much as it does with other products.
... I think there was a poll on here a while ago (Digg is close to the demographic google would attract) that asked what was peoples preferred OS. From memory it was 43% Windows, 43% OSX and 14% Linux which is a lot more biased against windows then the 95:4:1 that these OSes have in the overall market. - PolarBearFire, on 11/17/2008, -0/+0That's not mutually exclusive. Most Linux and Mac users use Windows too. Not so much the other way around.
- chipxsd, on 11/17/2008, -0/+0Video chat does work on Mac, but it's stupid. Works as a plugin for safari / firefox.
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -1/+1Thick and chewy fail.
- brettalton, on 11/17/2008, -1/+1Exactly, just because they use Linux on their servers doesn't mean they need to support their applications on the Linux desktop.
They're doing what they can with WINE and Android and we'll see Chrome for Linux soon enough. Do you really need Chrome that badly for Linux anyway? Just use Firefox for now... - XVampireX, on 11/17/2008, -1/+1From a business perspective I'd support any operating system, especially linux which is a fast growing market and might surpass Windows really soon.
- savocado, on 11/17/2008, -2/+1This 'article' is a FAIL.
- fatas, on 11/17/2008, -3/+2For a company as large as Google and that uses Linux heavily in their business operations they offer poor support for the Linux Desktop.
So ***** 'em esp. Chrome, Mozilla all the way. - 47f0, on 11/17/2008, -2/+1Well, actually its on approximately 4.2 zillion Linux servers - it's been a few years since Google ran on "a" server.
- ghostborg, on 11/17/2008, -4/+0Earth, Picasa are supported by WINE, not exactly native Linux.
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