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- Ensnared, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11So what? This is "Damn Small Linux", not "Damn Small OS".
- control98408, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Awesome. I've had an older version on my thumbdrive forever. Always nice to plug it into my friends computers and boot it up to freak them out.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Here's a mirror of the standard version:
http://www.bandwidthorbust.com/mirror/dsl-2.4.iso - fyngyrz, on 10/12/2007, -13/+17You idiots have no sense of humor. :)
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6DSL IS Damn Small.
You can install it on a 486 with 16mb ram and an 80mb HDD. Anything older than that belongs in a museum. - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you can load this whole damn thing into ram with a live cd. you know how much faster that is than vmware?
- schleufer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I try, and I try to use these Live CDs, but they never work.
Linux simply doesn't like any of my Laptops. The Live CDs (I've tried many flavors) usually hang and never finish booting. But I always try, because eventually, I'll get it to work.
Unfortunately, I just don't have the time to invest in troubleshooting this. I simply want it to work. I don't blame Linux, I blame the crappy proprietary-ness of laptops.
My servers are all Linux though. :) - checker, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Why it doesn't have a minimum RAM recommendation about 512 MB or 1GB for Premium?
-Because it is Linux, it is freedom. - livestradamus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3incase you haven't done so already- try the PCLinuxOS live cd.. there's a bunch of different versions available (try MiniMe i recommend that).
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i've got dsl installed on a 166 cyrix with a 1.6gb hd and 32mb ram.
and although it's a bit slow, i can use firefox on it. - zcreem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Come on this page is 17.03 KB how did you fit that into your 8KB, of course fractal compression. The compression program was of course factually compressed... Ad infinitum.
- EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2acpi=off saves. It's let me fix many-a-laptops and countless Dells. Newer Dells come with a ethernet port, onboard sound, and 5 USB ports on the back, and NOTHING else. No PS/2, no serial, no parellel. Sometimes Live CDs can't get USB keyboards working properly (Dell uses proprietary Intel Mobo's). acpi=off saves.
- miaow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2don't know much about it but I tried puppy and liked it despite the fact it never saved to the CD for me. the idea of having the whole OS in the RAM seems like what most casual surfers are dreaming of but don't realise. Instead we get windows whirring our hardrive around looking for bloat to load to the RAM.
- statmobile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I finally downloaded DSL, and tried it out. Damn, it really is SMALL!!!
Not to knock knoppix, but this does load so much quicker than knoppix. I usually use that cheat codes in knoppix in order to avoid booting into a KDE environment to speed things up, but this just plain works right out of the box. Not to mention that it runs very smoothly as well, KUDOS to DSL!!! I'll have to carry this around with me instead. I just hope I can rely on its booting abilities as much as Knoppix, because the latter is a champ at booting up on almost everything I throw at it. - unitedkronos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Something like this would be awesome to run on a silent system, something to use BitTorrent and Freenet with during the night.
- anothernerdgeek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah, its a real pita... some liveCDs you will never get to work, but with enough old-fashion trial-n-error, most will boot on even an old laptop/notebook.
I use to have to do something like "fb800x600 desktop=icewm" for the old Knoppix disks on my 233MHz Toshiba.
Typing "failsafe" was the only thing that worked for DSL 2.3 -- doesn't support any hardware beyond the floppy, but at least I got to give the OS and apps a test run.
Bottom line -- if you really want the kitty to sit on your lap, be patient and be willing to earn it. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just put SLAX on my thumbdrive and it kicks so much ass. I just put the ipw2200(centrino) firmware in the modules folder and now i can put it in any centrino laptop and wifi works out of the box. Im still trying to get 3d working with the nvidia drivers though.
There is a windows GUI app that lets you create a customized thumbdrive image with custom boot options and stuff. It works great(myslax creator). - erov, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hey, quit talking about my webserver like that! :) I have nearly the same specifications.. except my machine has only 64mb of ram. Slackware 10.2 installed fine, as well as some of the *buntu distro's but they were slow if only for the eye-candy desktops. Fluxbox+Slack10.2 runs decent.. even Firefox isn't too bad.
- miaow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i think thats the advantage of puppy linux. you can save new settings to the cd/dvd. (if you can get the disc to save. i get an error)
- pabster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, DSL is amazingly fast. You should see it on a dual-core X2 :o)
One reason is the use of Fluxbox for the window manager rather than Gnome or KDE. - knellotron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There's a feature called "MyDSL" which allows you to boot the liveCD, modify it, install your additional packages, and then burn your modified configuration to another CD.
- solidcube, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Most likely it's acpi=off. If it hangs on a cryptic string, that's the problem (can't remember what the string is, it's not an error message, rather something that should be there, but it hangs at that part of the boot process.)
- hakluytbean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0While being reminded here of DSL for some reason I thought of the 100$ laptop. Anyway I googled and found: http://news.com.com/Negroponte+Slimmer+Linux+needed+for+100+laptop/2100-7346_3-6057456.html
There's no formal connection, but I thought it was interesting.
Separately, @azpat DSL forums? http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi - azpat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can anyone here explain how to get DSL to let me have /home on a seperate partition. I've tried and tried and tried some more. I found instructions for ubuntu, which should probably have worked, but I couldn't get them to work. I got /etc/fstab changed, but when I boot up it says it was unable to find /home/dsl. I finally gave up, repartitioned and put everything on one partition. Any links or anything would be a big help. thanks.
- firemaker103, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Also, I wish the people at DSL could allow an "upgraded" version of myDSL to download so we could get the latest firefox, gimp, Linux kernel, etc.
- jimbo92107, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1DSL works fine on my ancient 266MHz clunker with 98MB of Ram and a crappy old 6-gig hdd. Nothing else even installs correctly on that thing except Puppy, but DSL runs better on minimum hardware.
Wierd, ain't it? Not too many years ago a 266 was considered blazing fast. Now it barely runs. - erov, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1On my old(er) Toshiba laptop (a P133MMX/16MB), I had to specify the amount of ram with 'mem=16M' in order to boot. Try this as well if you are having problems during the boot or when trying to run certain utils like mkfs, etc.
- Dimah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I had this problem with SLAX on my Pentium 4 computer and it turned out to be a HyperThreading problem. I just had to type acpi=off at the start to fix it (probably different for your version though)
But my other computer is a P3 and i have no idea how to get it to work on that. It doesn't really matter to me though as i hardly use it. - sbutcher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I usually try these first using Qemu software to run a virtual machine.
The important change for me is ndiswrapper - the version with the previous DSL wouldn't work with my hardware. - kualla, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1actually DSL was out at least 2 weeks ago, I already have a copy of DSL on a business card CD sitting in my wallet right now :) anywhere I go I can load up a copy and start hacking away
I got mine off ebay from http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=dosmensos&item=7238179131&iid=7238179131&frm=1883&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:SID
Less than $4, refer my name and I get a free CD next time =D - xgravix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1gentoo would probably work
- 1101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2DSL is a highly-diverse OS, i use it for all sorts of tasks. I really wish some of the MS fan-boys out there would make the switch, and this is a good way to get your feet wet in Linux because you can run it over your current OS.
Of course there is a ton of other live-CD Linux distros out there but DSL is by far my favorite, its portable, well-integrated, has a large supportive community and is light-weight enough to run on the crapy-est computers still in use by the non-1337.
I hope some of the attention DSL is getting will transfer to more people at least having experience with Linux, as you really shouldn't say anything about something unless you've tried it. (Some people (n00bs) clearly break this rule) - anothernerdgeek, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Puppy and Ubuntu are also great introductions for the MS sheepboys. However, most of 'em won't do much more than slide the cursor around and click on a few colored doodles -- then claim it doesn't come anywhere close to their MS eXPerience. So, forget these people... they are mindless mass consumers... leave them be and just invent a new gold-n-silver speckled giant popsickle to sell to them.
Don't you also tire of hearing the dreams of extreme Linux enthusiasts who think that the penquin should be on every desktop?? If I buy a package of disposable razzors at the dollar store and offer to ship one of them to you in exchange for your greatgrandfather's gold-enlaid, engraved, mahogany-handle, passed down the family heirloom razzor, would you make the trade?? Well, *nix is the heirloom and Windows is the cheap plastic thing. A realistic Linux enthusiast is someone who treasures the heirloom and accepts that the Joe-sixpack masses don't share his appreciation. We can't fault Windows for being the "cheap plastic thing" that it is *intended* to be (if it was intended to be anything better, it would cost a lot more and wouldn't be available to your average consumer down at BestBuy) but at the same time we don't expect a "grand performance" from it and are keenly aware that it can break easily. - firemaker103, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2LiveCD's are HORRIBLE. Instead, you should just try it out with VMware Player (Free).
- yongshunz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0there are more than 700MB in a CD-ROM,How to uses others space?install myself favorite's software.
but how can i install the software to the CD-ROM. - K4P741NxKRUNCH, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Hey everyone, I know this might be a little off topic, but you can help spread linux around by getting free Ubuntu install disk packages and spreading them around to your friends off shipit.ubuntu.com
You can get a 10 CD package for absolutely nothing
I got all my friends hopped up over linux and I even have Ubuntu dual booting with XP myself.
This is the best way to get people involved in linux...I mean seriously...150 dollars for XP or FREE linux with even more functionality...Hmm..
HAHA
Keep on LNXing my friends - PaulOwen, on 10/12/2007, -22/+8Does anyone else think that fyngyrz getting dugg down is completely unjustified?
50MB is quite a lot of space, particularly for something which calls itself "damn small". His point is not a troll and is actually quite valid!
There are operating systems with a very small profile particularly for small devices, but Damn Small Linux 2.4 at 50MB *just isn't damn small*.
Fork it or rebrand as mini-linux or something, but if the tin says something other than what's contained, prepare to respond to that criticism.
And stop digging users' valid points down - it only makes the digg readership look uneducated. - fyngyrz, on 10/12/2007, -47/+18Um. I stare at my Gimix 6809 with it's 8k (that's right, 8192 byte) disk operating system and I find I am having a little trouble with the appellation "damn small" as used here. My 6809 system, with 62k of RAM total of which 8K is OS and 2K above the RAM is boot ROM... that's fairly small. I'm not saying it's the equal of linux, but I am saying that as an OS, it's a lot closer to "damn small" than anything that consumes 50 megabytes is. Even if you add all the apps it comes with on disk (and that's quite a lot) it's still only just a few megs total. :)
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