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- brettalton, on 07/21/2008, -0/+55Again, these articles always fail to dig into really WHY this week is critical for Ubuntu and/or Mark Shuttleworth. All he states is that Ubuntu and Canonical have a lot on their plate at the moment. So?
Do some research, compare moments that created or destroyed organizations via keynotes. Think Mac/Apple and Steve Jobs in 1997. Then you'll have a readable and diggable article. Right now it just seems like an opinionated blog, and anyone can write one of those. - bieber, on 07/22/2008, -1/+12WTF? Would you prefer your software scattered across all the different developers sites? I mean, I'm pretty sure most of them have .deb downloads anyways, if you really want to get your software the Windows (aka pain-in-the-ass) way...
- DeathAxe, on 07/22/2008, -0/+11Canonical CEO and Ubuntu Linux backer Mark Shuttleworth will step into the spotlight July 22, when he keynotes OSCON (Open Source Convention) in Portland, Oregon. It will be a critical moment for Shuttleworth and the Ubuntu movement. Here’s why.
Canonical was originally scheduled to host Ubuntu Live — a mini convention — as part of the broader OSCON this week. Instead, Canonical canceled the mini-event and promised to introduce smaller regional and online events over the next few months.
When Canonical canceled Ubuntu Live, however, The VAR Guy wondered if Canonical was conceding that it had bitten off more than it could chew this year. Just look at all the projects on Canonical’s plate:
1. Ubuntu Desktop Edition: Any new preload deals coming, Mark?
Ubuntu got a big mainstream win in mid-2007 when Dell agreed to pre-install Ubuntu on selected Desktops. The VAR Guy and other Ubuntu followers expected (perhaps foolishly) that Dell rivals like Hewlett-Packard would quickly jump on the Ubuntu desktop bandwago. HP has won some Ubuntu-related customer deals, but has said little about its Ubuntu plans.
When Ubuntu’s latest release arrived in April 2008, we expected the upgrade (version 8.04) to generate more pre-load news from big PC makers. But even Dell took extra time before starting 8.04 preloads.
2. Ubuntu Server Edition: Ubuntu on the server is going to be a very long, slow-moving initiative that will require more software developers, hardware makers and integrators to climb on the bandwagon.
The VAR Guy is starting to hear from folks who are successfully deploying or running Ubuntu Server Edition. But Ubuntu on the server remains in its infancy.
The VAR Guy on April 24, 2008, stated that The Ubuntu Server Revolution Starts Today. But companies like Dell took a wait-and-see approach to Ubuntu on the server, and Sun is the only major server maker to truly endorse Ubuntu.
3. Ubuntu Netbooks: This is one of Canonical’s more promising strategies. Netbooks — or sub-notebooks with Ubuntu pre-installed — have drawn interest from customers and hardware makers alike.
But Microsoft will surely pressure sub-notebook makers to stick with Windows Vista by steeply discounting Windows, especially in emerging markets.
4. Ubuntu Mobile Internet Device Release: Canonical has to do a better job communicating how Ubuntu for Netbooks and the Ubuntu Mobile Internet Device (MID) release are related — if at all.
It sounds like Ubuntu for Netbooks is purely for sub-notebooks, but Ubuntu MID is for touchscreen devices like smart phones or iPhone-sized devices that have WiFi but no cell service. Also, how will Ubuntu MID compete with Google Android — or is there little overlap between the platforms?
So many questions for such a small company like Canonical. The VAR Guy wonders if Shuttleworth should simplify Canonical and simply focus like a laser on desktop Linux.
Or does Canonical really have the developer backing, financial resources and patience to compete on desktops, mobile devices, smart phones and servers?
Hopefully, Shuttleworth will provide some answers July 22.
Oh, and by the way, this is just the start of Canonical’s summer blitz for Ubuntu. Expect to hear more about Ubuntu and server software partners at LinuxWorld in August. - ianthepetrock, on 07/22/2008, -0/+8You don't have to rely on the repository. What's wrong with it anyway?
- Technohamster, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7Weird.
- amenic, on 07/21/2008, -3/+10^ owned.
- jay019, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7Since when has 1 murderer become a bunch?
Hey look, bstockwell is a bunch of ***** retards. - thinman1189, on 07/22/2008, -1/+8Wish I could go, if this is the type of reporting we can expect then nobody will have any idea what actually happened.
- maja742, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6critical hour for the server as well
- abhiroop, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6yea whats wrong with the repository? its one of the most useful things in ubuntu! I've even made a local repository so if I don't have internet connection I can download necessary drivers.
- EmperorPsiblade, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6[Citation Needed]
I heard he was a bit arrogant, but elaborate on the rest.
Hasn't he furthered Linux quite a bit through his support of Ubuntu? - Phocion55, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6Linux powers over 85% of the world's most powerful supercomputers. See that tiiiiiiiiiny 1% sliver? It's kind of hard to spot, but that's Windows.
No credibility? ***** off.
Source: http://www.top500.org/charts/list/31/osfam - PhailQuail, on 07/22/2008, -1/+5Yes, but not that well, but that will change in the future.
- DraconPern, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4It's a keynote speech, so it's like a pep rally. I don't think there is going to be any big announcement. Unless he has made some deal with Microsoft....
- jay019, on 07/22/2008, -1/+5My Sony Bravia is pretty mainstream and guess what, it runs on Linux. Hang a tick, so does my Tivo and my wirless modem / router. Hmmmmmmm.
- TheOther1, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4I met him @ VMworld and talked to him for quite a while. He seemed like a very nice guy.
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4meh, skype has webcam support.
- courtjester555, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Didn't realize you were posting the article; I thought you just had a really long opinion
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Linux Package management is actually pretty broken because of the lack of unification, but i expect if it becomes popular enough we may be able to finally unify on a package format... Not necessarily dumping the main format of the distro, but additionally supporting a generic one.
If we could all have statically linked binary packages wherever windows binaries lie, we wouldn't face this problem, but there are too many package formats and distro variations to cover at the moment. - taseedorf, on 07/22/2008, -1/+4Interesting point. Allow people to see the code, double check it, balance it, and make sure that there is nothing fishy in it. Plus make it free? Yeah, what OS like that could make it mainstream.
I guess you guys will let MS control your lives forever.... before you make comments, READ the EULA that came with your version of Windows...you may change your tune if you are educated enough to understand it - Biznarie, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Repositories get updated pretty quickly and most programs have a deb and rpm for download. If they only release source then stick with the repository one, its the best tested for your distro. Also just because you have the option to upgrade that doesn't always make it the best choice.
- MikeBasinger, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Just install the desktop of your choice, in a terminal windows.
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
or
sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop - EminNew, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2It does not. You can add them yourself, though, with a well placed 'apt-get install' command.
- MikeBasinger, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Mark is a great guy,and would definitely not call him arrogant.
- LastDitchHero, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2They raised an important point about the future of Canonical and Ubuntu's future. Canonical is a small company with limited resources. Now granted they can take from all open source products they need to have some "core competency" as a Linux distro or else why are they different than all these random distros. I really hope it is in the netbooks and helping OEMs package Linux based machines. I mean it is great they provide server products but so do so many other well established companies.
Desktop Linux needs to finds it's niche and Ubuntu could do this if they service the netbook, tablet, and small compact desktops. Linux is ready to service these markets effectively. - spreadfred, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2i agree with you. apple and microsoft will keep polluting the airwaves with so much propaganda, linux will never have a chance.
- Fergy, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2What you really meant to say speel is that you want to be able to download and install the newest/alpha/beta version of software like you can in windows. Right now you can only get the older tested versions in the repository. Also new/unknown software isn't available in the repositories.
- jay019, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2Do you get out (or laid) much. Nah didnt think so.
- Kamujin, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3I dispute your ability to predict the future for all time.
Heck, I'd be dubious of your ability to predict the future for 1 year. - NorthStateGonzo, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2That is why Every developer for Google makes the Request for a Linux Os over Pc= PWNED
- melat0nin, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2bstockwell you are a ***** tool
- Roy911, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2You. Are. An. Idiot.
You don't belong here if you don't know who Linus Torvalds is. - inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Ubuntu users may not know that guy.
- bluechild, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2Maybe you haven't used a recent distro. The desktop experience is rapidly improving and with adaption of open standards even by MS in certain areas (ie ODF), increasing crossplatform support by major players, the netbook/embedded/phone market "linux revolution", the momentum Apple has right now (yes, it helps linux because it changes the dogma that there is only windows for the average user) I would say linux has already hit the mainstream, although you may not quite understand it right now.
- taseedorf, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Ubuntu will have a lot on their plate for a while. They are becoming the biggest Desktop Linux company, if they aren't already. If they wanted, they could even charge for their software, as long as they released the code for it. I see a cash cow in the future. 20 bucks for 199 for vista? Hell, I'd pay it.
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1The site is already down? Mirror?
- stupidbrowner, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2I would definitely rank Shuttleworth above Gates!
Are you thinking of Linus Torvalds? Cuz that guy fits the description you gave. - webcrumb, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Here's the deal: Shuttleworth will announce the Dell Inspiron E will ship with Ubuntu Netbook Remix.
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Roy911: Some people who use ubuntu /really/ don't know.. and who's an idiot? Anylo was being sarcastic.
- taseedorf, on 08/01/2008, -0/+1Linux has a huge chance. It's FREE.
- stevensj2, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Start thinking of Ubuntu as an appealing and worthwhile OS, rather than a philosophical "movement" and new users might be easier to come by.
People want to use their computer, no more, no less. They're asking for a useful tool, not a "movement" or new paradigm to change their thought, as they stare at the screen basking in its glory.
That's one of the main reasons I ditched Ubuntu. I still use linux, but I like the distro's that focus on the actual OS, and not the hype that surrounds it. - Roy911, on 07/26/2008, -0/+1@ nmnnotmyname, anylo needs some /sarcasm tags then, as it wasn't obvious or funny sarcasm, looks more like stupidity.
- speel, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1Think about it where do windows and mac users get applications? At the devlopers / software site. Which is how it should be so you can have the latest and greatest. And not having to wait for a maintainer to upload the latest package.
- oregonbob2000, on 07/22/2008, -3/+1Does Ubuntu Server Edition include a GUI / X11, Gnome? I want to try it but want a GUI, not just a command line beast.
- anylo, on 07/22/2008, -4/+1Mark is soooo arrogant. But he's still a n00b compared to that other linux guy who called us as "Wanking Walruses"! Does anyone remember that dude's name or what he has done to the community?
http://lwn.net/Articles/290498/ - bstockwell, on 07/22/2008, -4/+1I have tried ubunto, version 7.10 on my old computer, it was so slow and broke the hard drive. While it was working, I found I was unable to install office -- I write a lot of reports for work and school -- I saw open office but didn't trust it to keep my information private.
I also couldn't use Internet explorer - speel, on 07/22/2008, -4/+1Yea actually I would, say I wanted the latest version of xmms ( just an example ) I shouldn't wait for the repository to be updated, and yes you could say just download the .deb from the site. Well some developers choose not to create a .deb, instead they put up the source so you could compile on your own.
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