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- TheFoundry, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12K3B is on par with Nero burning suite. I use it, but that's just my personal preferance.
I do understand wanting to be able to burn from the CLI. I'm not sure if K3B can do that. - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Isn't that not free?
- doolin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Uh... Yeah it is. Its one of the best recording programs available.
- thrillho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8gotta love sites with static background images
- kikibun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Wow, this could be cool. cdrecord is not exactly a nice and usable peice of software.
- tomalakborg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Amen to that @someguy -- functionality first.
@airjordan; people get pulled in by the flash, but then the program crawls and they have to go buy another computer from dell preloaded with "pretty looking" ridealong apps from AOL and claria... then they crawl - rinse, repeat.
GTK+ is beautiful in that is HAS all the functionality, but doesn't take a borg cube to run.
Granted tovid is going to be converting video, so the underlying process will warrant a decent computer - but I want the cpu cycles going to the video conversion, not mouseover effects! - usp8riot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Linux is definitely in need of a professional video/dvd editing suite. Hopefully this one and the other few out there will make some strides so at least a moderate user such as myself will feel capable of making a somewhat professional-looking home movie.
- specialk2hz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I love tovid. I've been using it for months now... the help channel on freenode they have is outstanding and once you get down the command line, its as easy as pie to convert pretty much anything and put it on DVD.
- eqisow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If by "wow factor" you mean overly elaborate and complicated GUIs using non-standard widgets (a la Nero, Windows iTunes, etc), then I'll pass.
- ArthurSucks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3DVD Fab and DVD Shrink are for copying DVDs. Programs like Tovid and DVDAuthor are used to create and master a new DVD. I made videos of my 2005 Lingerie party to give people who attended. They loved it.
- weoh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3k3b is a front end to cdrecord, mostly
- someguyouknow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Function is more important than fashion. I would rather have a great functioning, ugly program than a great looking, poorly coded program. But thats just me...
- eqisow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Errr, what does this have to do with the article?
Besides, paying for Nero on Linux with alternatives like K3B available is just not smart. - argotechnica, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3antdude - You're right. It's $20 USD.
- zekant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Another brand new and promising DVD authoring tool, worth a look
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=38347 - argotechnica, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Video editing is still slowly reaching maturity on Linux. Try LiVES or Cinelerra.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Looks nice. Personally I don't use DVD much (too small) but I know many people do for convenience. Hopefully this can be bundled with the next major release of GNOME since DVD creation software is now bundled with OSX & Windows.
- stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2K3B can rip DVDs. Put in a disc and right click on your CD/DVD icon in the top left K3B viewer section.
- einfeldt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2hi, this is a question for equisow, argotechnica, or anyone else who can answer it:
"I'm very happy with Cinelerra's video editing capabilities."
I am producing a film called the Digital Tipping Point. It's about how FOSS is going to change culture. I have been using Kino under SuSE Linux 10.0 to do rough edits for our film, and I haven't yet approached Cinelerra. I did install Cinelerra, and it looks like it is pretty hard. I would really love to talk with anyone who is good with cinelerra, because the GUI really does look complex. If anyone has some tips as to how to use Cinelerra, I would greatly appreciate it if you would either email me at einfeldt at g mail dot com, or if you would leave comments on the Digital Tipping Point video how-to forum. You can find that forum here.
http://digitaltippingpoint.com/forum/index.php?board=6.0
Thanks either way. Also, we are looking for people who would like to play in our sand box and edit video, do transcriptions, etc. We are giving away hundreds of hours of footage under a Creative Commons license, in the hopes that people will give back with edits and so forth. You can find our footage on the Internet Archive here:
http://www.archive.org/details.php?identifier=digitaltippingpoint
Thanks in advance for any tips.
Christian Einfeldt - dukeinlondon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2your own experience dude. I NEVER had any problem burning CDs and DVD in Linux. I have a Mac as well by the way.
- eqisow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you're looking for a DVDShrink replacement for Linux try K9Copy.
DVDShrink also works fine in Wine. - argotechnica, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you're on Linux and want to "archive" your DVDs, try something like dvdrip to rip relevant VOBs/IFOs. You can then just burn the files using something like k3b. If you instead want to make DVDs out of loose video files on your computer, I would actually suggest DeVeDe (http://digg.com/linux_unix/DeVeDe_ver._2.1_out) over Tovid.
- skubiszm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I currently use DVD Fab and DVD Shrink on Windows. Anyone know how this compares?
- eqisow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm very happy with Cinelerra's video editing capabilities.
- argotechnica, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nothing like DVD Fab/Shrink, which provide two stages for copying ("archiving") DVDs and do all/most of the work for you.
DVD Shrink decrypts DVDs (which in the US is illegal in all circumstances) while also copying their contents to your hard drive. DVDFab takes those decrypted files and re-encodes files that are too big, patches disc structure files to account for missing trailers/ads, and then burns as a region free disc.
Tovid is used for putting video files into simple menu structures. It will handle appropriate video conversions, but will rely on you to build animated menus or whatnot other flashy things. Tovid is therefore not as much about DVD "backups" as it is about DVD creation. - jsilva, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use DVDStyler http://DVDStyler.sf.net, encoding into MPEG-2 with DeVeDe and making the menu with DVDSTyler :)
Great tools - PrettyBoyFloyd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Linux needs more apps like this. I don't know how this compares to Nero and others, since I haven't yet installed it on my SuSE box, but now that I have a DVD burner, I'm anxious to play around with it. From what I can tell from the website, tovid is really just a DVD authoring utility, not a full featured video editing package like Adobe Premiere for the PC or Final Cut for the Mac. Anyone know of comparable open source projects for video editing? Both of my kids do this with Final Cut (thankfully, they're students and can get educational discounts). I've been trying to get them to explore Open Source alternatives, but the schools they attend are slavishly loyal to Apple and insist that Final Cut is the industry standard.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3wrong, cdrecord is a painful piece of *****.
i use CLI under freebsd for everything, but cdrecord IS crappy. poor support, and adding support is a pain in the ass. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Odd I never had a dvdr/cdrw drive that wasn't supported under linux.
They pretty much just worked with k3b no fuss etc.
I guess you had you're permissions screwed up or tried to create your groups without knowing what you were doing most distributions will setup everything for you now.
I also own a mac and I usually have to use toast as it seems only the stock drive works in itunes no big loss. - alej744, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I know a friend who will want this.
- inkubux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1mandvd is really an awesome application, better than tovid IMHO
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=38347 - dukeinlondon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There must be something about it because it's the absolute favorite of users of gnome-files. Personnaly I have barely scratched the surface of k3b so...
- dukeinlondon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Try ManDVD
- dumbkiwi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0k9copy (latest version) is a great dvd-shrink replacement.
For creating dvd's try mandvd - available on kde-apps.org - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2no idiot i've wasted hours on cdrecord doing just that.
If you had done the same you'd see it's full of words of wisdom such as "THIS IS NOT A BUG WITH CDRECORD IT'S - insert random manufactures name- 's FUALT"
no one to this day has been able to explain to me just why when i burn a cd using cdrecord -no matter what the media- i can not mount it under freebsd, yet when i attempt to mount it under windows it's works. when i burn a cd using nero, it works everytime, including in my fbsd system.
i've tried multiple lists, many know it all's have tried and failed to provide a solution. it's just a common as salt LG cd/dvd burner.
the only answer people give me is "buy a new cd burner" which is a ***** cop out al too common in OSS. - MikeVx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I craft DVDs on a regular basis. I do not regard tovid as a full tool, I use it solely for translating various video formats into DVD-compatible MPGs. I use other tools, such as DVD Styler, for menus and control logic, and I use growisofs (part of the dvd+rw tools) to burn the image to disc when I have to skip having DVD Styler do it for me, which it will do if told to and if growisofs is present on the system. Sometimes I have to run the disc through DVD Shrink using wine to make it fit a single layer blank. Note that if you want Shrink and other tools to handle your discs gracefully, you must include a video manager menu. Check the documentation in your preferred authoring package.
Not the friendliest way to do it, but I get more control out of the mix of tools than my Windows-bound friends.
I grabbed DeVeDe listed above (bad link, copy, paste, and trim the closing parenthieis) and will see how it compares to DVD Styler. - cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1DVD/CD editing and burning on Linux to date is pretty damn sad. I use two boxes at home, my XP box and my Linux box. I try, try, and try to use my Linux box for what I can. But video editing and DVD authoring are just not anywhere near what the commercial ***** offers.
Mind you, I WISH and DREAM of Linux software that will do what the commercial vendors offer, but to date that day is not in the foreseeable future.
Sure, there are alternatives that "can" do the job, but they are flaky and a pain to use. Time is money I always say, if I have to pay three hours of salary to buy a commercial product that will save me dozens of hours, the choice is financially wise.
...makes me sad,but its true. - wyrdness, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0The sheer pain of CD and DVD burning on Linux is the reason that I switched to Mac, after being a dedicated Linux geek for 6 years. Sometimes cdrecord wouldn't work. Sometimes it would, but then K3B wouldn't. DVD recording was just a joke. Neither Gentoo nor SuSE would write cds on either of the drives (one CD-R, one DVD-R) on my PC, yet they both worked under Windows. I wasted days trying to figure out the problems. In the end, I took the DVD-R drive out of the Linux box, put it in an external firewire IDE enclosure, plugged it into a Mac and it worked perfectly. I didn't need to install any drivers or software, or even reboot. The result - bye bye Linux and one new happy Mac user. I now understand why Mac users are so smug!
- stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3myspace is ugly as hell
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Nero has a Linux version call NeroLinux and it works great.
- dumbkiwi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Try dvd-lab under wine. Works flawlessly.
- dumbkiwi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0pls ignore
- josepuerto, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0and reddit rules...lol!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2@timmarhy
just because you don't know how to use a piece of software, does not mean it's a piece of *****... RTFM - jsilva, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1stupid reply link
- airjrdn, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2Unfortunately, it looks like your typical Linux app. Simple and uninviting. The worst looking video edit app for Windows looks 5x better than this. Open source devs need to learn the value of the "wow" factor.
What I like about XGL/Compiz is what they bring to the table for Linux. For once, it's Linux leading the way with a pleasing GUI. Vista may look nice (I've not seen it in person) but it'd better look stunning to compete w/XGL/Compiz. - muphasa, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0MySpace... :)
- mickwalks, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1Linux Sucks!!!
- josepuerto, on 10/12/2007, -12/+0all your base are belong to us lol
- muphasa, on 10/12/2007, -17/+0its impossible to burn DVD's in linux u dumbasses
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