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- Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+185@ aurrea
And the 45 seconds of credits.
Followed by the blooper reel where it started to boot, then 1.43 seconds in it forgot it's lines and started laughing so hard milk came out it's nose. - falloutsyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -8/+160cause you know, a 1.69 second video of an uber lite linux box booting is so exciting.
- aurrea, on 10/12/2007, -2/+113You're forgetting the 6 second intro of the clip.
- guregu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+75Did you just sign and date your comment? Lame.
- reidypeidy, on 10/12/2007, -13/+81A video would have been nice...
- daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -16/+49Isn't lame techno a bit redundant? :)
- hellyes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26Not as redundant as copying and pasting someone's comment.
- c0uchm0nster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23ITHAWTCASA (I think his aim was to create another stupid acronym) ~ c0uchm0nster, "just now"
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23True. If we are here, clearly we have some time to kill.
- Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21"Getting to a VGA console takes a little longer -- a leisurely 2.41 seconds -- because of the need to...load a splashscreen..."
Why do you NEED to load a splashscreen? Admittedly I'm not a Linux geek, but am I missing something here? - Torx, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27and the cool music to accompany it
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23As if any of you guys would find this useful...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19"Many other possibilities come to mind..."
...Like a ninja, ready to strike at any second (with a 1.69 second delay), controlled by Linux! - johntwoods, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20yeah it's true, we all see this and go "Man, I wish Windows would boot that quickly." I doubt any of us are saying.... "Hmmm... I better switch to Linux"
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17nope. I got my Windows Media Center Edition 2004 to boot in about 12 seconds. from a 7200 RPM drive.......
- nikebud, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18You could care less? That implies that it would be possible for you to care less (than you do now) about it. I think you mean that you couldn't possibly care less. In other words, you *couldn't* care less.
- nikebud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I'm not trying to prove you wrong, actually, I couldn't care less.
It's a very complicated process for a PC with a full OS to turn on instantly, and users that expect the 'instant booting process' seem to expect too much of a system that they:
A: Think they know too much about OS programming
B: Have no idea how operating systems work
C: Usually spend too much time using their own PC for instant gratification
D: Spend too much $ for a PC that is too fast for their own good, i.e. full of spyware and porn - iJump, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15He probably had Wikipedia on his mind when he typed that. Anyone who uses the article and user talk pages there should know that you always sign and date your comments when posting.
Just so you know. - bluebearr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15dang. Linux toaster, here I come!
- nikebud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10ok! I agree. As a matter of fact, I couldn't agree more.
- smrty, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8can you do that with my cell phone now?
- thestorey, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9@johntwoods
uh...
http://thestorey.googlepages.com/Screenshot.jpg - misterjangles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If you take a halfway decent modern computer and install DOS on it, it boots pretty damn fast too. Especially if you set the bios to not check for bootable floppy and CD disks..
- prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4One place this would be very usefull is on TiVo. Everyone who's had TiVo reboot due to a storm or something is familiar with "Almost there! Just a little longer!" splashscreens.
- nikebud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Try MythTV with a RAID back-end server with a battery-backed up power supply (UPS)
- falloutsyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@zptao, i've got two in raid 0 and i don't get these kind of boot times, thats because they are limited by the spindle speed. Don't be stupid.
- NoodlyAppendage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Please, we all know it was 1.7 secs. It's amazing what one/one hundredth of a second can contribute to a headline.
- prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's true. My mame cabinet boots to a rom selection screen in less than 5 seconds. On a Via epia 1ghz.
- gushi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wonder how hard it would be to make this system part of a car PC... If the system is read only, you could kill the ignition with no losses. I can certainly wait 3 seconds for my radio to start... Particularly if it goes right to playing the files it downloaded last night in the garage to the spare HD!
- pauldonnelly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hell, some radios take that long to start anyway.
- eqisow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://thepiratecove.org/images/snapshot1.png
- vinbob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You could fit Napalm Death's aptly entitled track "You suffer, but why?" in the 1.6 sec slot with room to spare, or one of may of A.C's tracks
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2a leisurely 2.41 seconds --because of the need to initialize the FPGA, load a splashscreen, and activate the USB keyboard module, the company explains.
when will companies realise, that splash screens are just annoying.. I already bought your software, i dont need a lifetime of pop up ads along with it.
OK so it is nix..not as effective complaining about splash screens when the software is free, but i still will. - ezzonguard, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7this is 1.68 seconds too long... where is my instant-on laptop damn you!
- AICkieran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just no. This version of Linux is on an SD card. Would you run anything off just an SD card?
That depends on the application, There are a few problems with solid state storage (as you mentioned the 1 million write thing) but depending on the application its unlikely to achieve that too fast, Solid state storage doesn't suffer as much latency as traditional hard disks, Theres alot to be worked out but solid state storage is the future. - nikebud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3and this is new, why?
Routers are commonly based on Linux, and "boot their boards" in a few seconds. To wake, 'boot the board', record data, and go back to sleep, can be done really quickly.
Are we confusing hibernating an embedded system with hibernating an OS on a desktop/workstation system? The same technology would take much longer to do the same on a modern OS, be it Vista, OS X, Ubuntu, or any other OS flavor of the day.
It is interesting technology, but for embedded systems. Eventually it may lead to better and faster desktops, but until then, no digg.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The bootup speed is nice and all, but the real question is, how does the OS handle itself for actually using it?
I'm rather Linux-illiterate, so I'm not sure if it's explained in the article, but to me it would make sense if the vitals of the OS was stored on the SD card (the important stuff that you need to just get your computer running), while the other pieces of the OS (all the software, settings, etc) was stored on a local hard drive? That way you can get your computer booted quickly, but not rely on having your entire OS on an easily-loosable SD card?
Like I said, I'm nowhere near advanced in Linux, so if that was explained in the article, excuse my ignorance. - tybris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why are people trying to replace all electronics with PC's. This thing is way overpriced and extremely slow.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Heh, I thought it looked like dynomite, too. Maybe Sony developed that? =P
- mbthompson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I guess it's kind of cool for what it does, but I'm not that excited about it. It's a bare bones version of Linux, not Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse, Gentoo or anything like that. Just can't get too excited about this one or it's applications.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I completely agree, for the applications they talk about, Linux is a complete waste. I think this is geared more toward the home hobbyist and not real work enviorments. oh and btw my old palm boots instantly.
- ToeCheese, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3My Top Loading VCR can beat that! Too bad this isn't in my HD-DVD player but I hear I got a break for buying this batch cause the prices are going up.
- jesseoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The splash takes a negligible amount of time to display (~ 0.1 s) and can be disabled/changed by the user. We put it up to prove we had a graphics capable framebuffer running as part of the fast boot and actually -- believe it or not -- by customer request. Many people like the idea of an early "hook" into the bootup to display their own graphical banners.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5I don't wish windows would boot that fast. with all the crap windows has to start up, it would have to be stripped down to less than the junk it already is in order for it to boot in 1.69 seconds.
- thefireinside, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3You're completely right, and I understand that it would be hard to do.
All I'm saying is that it would be really cool if someone managed to make a PC that turns on instantly =P . - GnuTzu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is an Embedded Linux on a Single Board Computer. Such hardware and embedded operating systems don't do the kind of memory management that regular PCs use.
So, don't expect it to run KDE or Gnome. At best, the user interface would be like that of a PDA.
Personally, I haven't had the time (or perhaps the guts) to delve into an experimenter's kit for Embedded Linux. But, the thought of tinkering with putting teeny-tiny little computers like the Gumstix (http://www.gumstix.com/) has been making me drool for quite a few years now. I just go a oogly think about telneting into a thing the size of a pack of gum.
I would say the next level up is the Kurobox (http://www.kurobox.com/), which runs a full Linux (but no VGA). Still, that doesn't boot in under two seconds. - jesseoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Actually, the real time is 1.54 seconds as of now -- 1.69 was worst case when we did the initial testing.
- joseph93, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Download: ftp://ftp.embeddedarm.com/ts-arm-linux-cd/binaries/ts-images/fastboot-7300-sdcard-7-6-2006.dd.bz2
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1fast booting = g00d
- SethHoyt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Orange crap?
I would have though it was pretty obvious that those are battery cells... -
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