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- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -0/+46I was wrong. I thought that compiz was going to be just pointless eye candy. It's not, it has the potential to increase my productivity. I finally take advantage of multiple desktops because they've become fun to use. There are several things I use a lot. I find the zoom feature very useful. I like all the switchers. That's the good. Now for the things that need to be improved. Despite the claim, Compiz-Fusion isn't really stable yet. It's crashed on me about once a day for no particular reason. Too many of the effects conflict with other effects which I guess is because the merger was so recent; regardless this needs to be done better. In particular wobbly windows needs to take its hands off edge resistance. Compiz is going to be the future of computing and I'm happy about it.
- Reziarfg, on 11/06/2007, -0/+37The funny part is, Compiz is really light on resources compared to Aero. You can run Compiz decently on some old GFX cards.
- dualscreenman, on 11/06/2007, -0/+22Take my GeForce4 MX 440; old *****.
Most everything works fine except using the burn animation... - canthraxp, on 11/06/2007, -1/+18So far I've tried compiz-fusion on a:
-1 year old pc: works flawlessly.
-6 month old notebook: flawless.
-5 year old pc: works great, except some intense things, like burn or reflection.
And finally, I'm gonna try on a 8 year old pc (the dinosaur of all pc's). - latova, on 11/06/2007, -0/+15The difference is, if you turned it off in windows the operating system would still be slow like ass and wasting resources.
- archlich, on 11/05/2007, -0/+12Compiz is more than just a cube. With a simple mouse gesture and a click I can switch to any desktop and any application without even touching alt tab.
- lickmyback, on 11/08/2007, -2/+12I bet you were (are?) one of those kids in math class who invariably pipes up "but sir, when am I ever going to need to find the length of the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle?" when asked to solve a problem.
I appreciate your pragmatic view on all this and agree that some of these things may currently be solutions looking for problems (or features looking for an implementation), but you're missing the point entirely because that's not how open source development works. A lot of these things may be fairly useless on their own, but become brilliant when incorporated into some feature in the future that actually is functional. The point of open source is that you don't hold back until you reach the stage of something being a fully implemented 'iFeature', you release what you've done to the rest of the world, show off a bit, get feedback, learn, and let others potentially make something of it. If someone creates a seemingly useless feature, then don't interpret that as time wasted not building something else. - mysticmatrix, on 11/07/2007, -7/+17And the talks about copying by Mac.... So where did we copy real 3D desktop from :P
- Azimuth1, on 11/05/2007, -14/+23And yet, if Compiz was part of Windows, your comment would be about how it's a useless feature that wastes resources.
- SmSpillaz, on 11/08/2007, -0/+9Dude,
Input redirection will be the biggest thing for compiz since sliced bread!
Think:
1 Live scaling and rotation of windows, allowing you have as many things on a desktop as you want
2 Input with windows during zoom properly
3 Never have to actually 'move' and window in the XServer again, because we can just redirect the input
4 Input with any transformed window.
Compiz Fusion has a community of developers, those developers work on what they want. And it works.
BTW: AntiAliasing is a driver thing. Have a look in your driver settings - schestowitz, on 11/04/2007, -7/+15Nifty! http://smspillaz.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/scree ... . Stereovision. Get your glasses on. It's time for Linux.
- antitab, on 11/08/2007, -1/+9Because I don't know jack squat about X11 programming and I'm not in a position to contribute. Further, if you're representing the rest of the Linux community in deeming constructive criticism as "whining" and proposing that no one should discuss applications unless they are able and willing to code them themselves, then we have a much longer way to go than I thought. There's a reason that design and programming are separate fields.
- dymaxium, on 11/04/2007, -0/+8I've been fortunate to not have any crashes occur. But I have found the ability to drag a window easily from one virtual desktop to another with the wall plugin is rather useful.
Plus a small dose of eyecandy is always nice - heliosys, on 11/05/2007, -0/+8get a new PC, my 3 year-old PC is running it fine
- burty89, on 11/04/2007, -0/+7I'm running Ubuntu gutsy and the compiz fusion from the official repos, and I can only see the windows of the active workspace on the taskbar.
- angrykeyboarder, on 11/06/2007, -0/+6In other words, you're not missing anything worth missing. :)
- trogdoor, on 11/12/2007, -0/+6Just because there are pointless features doesn't mean there aren't useful ones.
- dualscreenman, on 11/04/2007, -0/+5@DoomMusic
Sure you have the proprietary drivers? If you do, I think there was one little thing I had to do to the xorg.conf file to get the titlebars on windows to not be non-existent...
But other than that I don't think I had any really bad bugs. - gaminggeek, on 11/05/2007, -0/+5sure alot of this is developers just having fun, this is what hobbyist programing is all about, you might not see a point in these plug-ins but that doesnt mean that someone can look at the code for the useless plug-in and make something brilliant with it
- srg13, on 11/06/2007, -0/+5AFAIK, there's no way to polarise the image in software - you'd probably need a special monitor. But I suppose you could do it with two projectors with polarising filters over the lenses.
- SimonGray, on 11/08/2007, -2/+7Saying stuff is useless is not constructive criticism. Saying how something could be done _better_ is constructive criticism. All you did was list what you didn't like. If you have thought of a better feature, then let people know. Also, digging me down because I disagree with you is weak.
- antitab, on 11/06/2007, -8/+12Compiz has the major problem of not knowing what the hell it's trying to be, and thus becoming a dumping ground for every random excessive use of compositing possible. Bury me if you like, but... none of those plugins are useful for anything. Not one. Compiz has a disorienting library of plugins, most of which are absolutely good for nothing. The developers need to focus on improving the subsystem and improving the plugins that are good and are useful (Expose, Wall, Expo) and drop cruft like Freewins. "Of course, there is no input redirection yet" DO NOT WORK ON ADDING IT. It's not even slightly, remotely, minutely useful as a window management feature. Come on, guys. Let's get some antialiasing, not some (more) flying windows. Let's get some direction. Let's get some vision. Produce something that people want to use because it makes their computer more functional, not because it's packed with one-trick bling. Don't get me wrong – I want Linux and Compiz to succeed as much as anyone, but this is just not the way forward. It, like far too many of the Linux desktop projects, is completely missing the point.
- wheel3r6, on 11/05/2007, -21/+24this just keeps getting better ,,,,COMPIZ FUSION the real WOW;;;;; take that MICRO$OFT
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -0/+3Get a 64MB videocard and 128MB of RAM.
- webcrumb, on 11/06/2007, -0/+2Just FYI, good luck using polarised /anything/ on an LCD monitor.
- sq377, on 11/04/2007, -0/+2Same as burty, it only shows the current workspaces windows.
- trogdoor, on 11/06/2007, -0/+2You are right on both accounts, but even with two projectors and polorizing filters ( both of which already cost a lot ) you also need an expensive screen that won't just negate the polorization.
I have been trying to make such a setup cheaply and while I have luckily found that my optomatrist was throwing out some oversized polorised lenzes ( used for display ) and may be able to get some projectors from the office finding a screen has been a real problem. The cheapest and easiest way to do 3D is anaglyphic, next to that you can use two displays, some cheap reading glasses and some mirrors for surprisingly good results but very cumbersome and you have to make it all yourself. Shutter glasses are expensive and only work with CRT's but they are the most "practical" solution if price is not a factor since there is not a lot of setup required and you don't need to keep your head in one place. - trogdoor, on 11/05/2007, -0/+2That's not a bug in Compiz but rather AIGLX, it is being worked on but not enough IMHO.
- macaholic, on 11/04/2007, -0/+1Darn I got excited about the anaglyph 3d stuff, since I just saw a 3d movie, but then realized that the glasses I have are of the polarized variety. (Not blue and red, but all grey) I wish they could make it work with polarized ones too.
- wiihuck, on 11/04/2007, -0/+1Opacify helps my productivity. when sending an email or working in the terminal i can just look at the website or document under the email/terminal and keep typing away.
- SimonGray, on 11/08/2007, -5/+6So why don't YOU do something about it? No one likes a whiner.
- Stadtkind, on 11/05/2007, -0/+1now I've seen comments about this urnspam, I really want to know what it is...
- Philluminati, on 11/05/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I love it when you move to the top right corner and all the windows zoom out and line up. You can immediently which app your going for. Much more productive than Alt-tab or the task bar.
Alt-Tab is still essential though for when your not holding the mouse and you want to switch quickly. The choice is nice as well. Personally, I'm a ring switcher fan. - DoomMusic, on 11/04/2007, -2/+2Same card in my box doesn't make compiz work =(
- Vaeduus, on 11/04/2007, -3/+3Urnspam? Who does that (besides sky66)?
- pendrachken, on 11/19/2007, -0/+0Try it in KDE you _MORON_ before you dig someone down.
- sabbath0208, on 11/04/2007, -0/+0And it's free, that's the real difference.
- Philluminati, on 11/06/2007, -2/+1burn rocks
- smackit, on 11/06/2007, -5/+1http://digg.com/software/Improved_SPACES_for_OSX_L ...
- pendrachken, on 11/05/2007, -5/+0True, but one of the thing i would like worked on is not listing all windows in the taskbar. One nice thing about virtual desktops WITHOUT compiz is the ability to only show windows that are on that desktop. It helps keep clutter down in my opinion.
- Giga, on 11/04/2007, -5/+0Except it doesn't work properly on a lot of hardware. Quite commonly when you run OpenGL applications (such as glxgears) the OpenGL rendered part of the window displays on top of everything, even if the window is covered by something else. Doesn't do it on my Nvidia system, but it does on my Intel system.
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8732 - moocow1452, on 11/05/2007, -8/+1It's uber slow. But it looks so cool! What to do?
- idiotwithastick, on 11/06/2007, -18/+2I highly doubt that 3d desktop or cube pictures would increase your productivity, and rotatable windows would be a stretch. And you don't need Compiz to get multiple desktops... but I agree zoom could be good. :)
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