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- shrewduser, on 10/11/2007, -1/+30installed it a few days ago, and its still blowing me away....
compiz fusion > all - jonesin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17For those of you using the development branch, compiz fusion is already in the gutsy repos.
- slacknerd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8That was awesome. very exciting stuff. now i just need to figure out how to get XP off all those desktops at work and get Ubuntu on them...ah! I'll start with mine and show the eye candy off a lot...there we go...mmm...eyecandy...
- andyrobo60, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7It reminds me of installing compiz back in the old days, when having a 3d desktop meant following a 10 step process that more times than not took longer fixing than installing.
I think I will leave fusion for now and stick with normal beryl. - leszek, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Seriously, if you are a beginner don't follow this guide.
The first step will remove ubuntu-desktop.
If you know what you are doing this is fine but if you don't it could create problems later. - jorgepblank, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4After finally getting it to work, I'm using it right now and it's pretty sweet. Can't wait to write some plug-ins for it.
- Kr4t05, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I tried Compiz-Fusion for about 20 minutes. It was nice, but there were noticeable performance glitches when compared to Beryl 0.2.1. Rotating the cube was far more sketchy, and most of the animations for closing/opening and minimize skipped. But, then, my hardware is a bit underpowered, and this is an alpha release. I'll wait until 0.1 or Gutsy, whichever comes first. I plan on building a new PC around Gutsy, anyway.
- mobilehavoc, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9Compiz Fusion demo videos on YouTube with lame background music in 3.....2.....1....
- cmdrNacho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3has anyone tried this with dual screen support yet ? and how is the useablitly
- kazamx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@winstonc
I know the people working on beryl were aware that the options available were a little confusing and had started to make it easier. The people at fusion have started working on this too. It seems to be in an early stage, but I expect that by the time Fusion gets its first release, it will have a much better manager to control all the effects. - TehDoctor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I don't think virtualball or redxii got what you meant. I just installed it earlier today, so I'll try and actually answer your question, Craga.
I personally find it better than beryl. It's stable for me, the cube plugin now has an optional "reflect below" plugin which is pretty nice, the desktop wall plugin is also in, although it needs some tweaking IMO. The crazier window animations were off by default, just a sensible mix of fade in/out, transparency, and the wobbly windows. The animations seem less choppy to me than beryl's were. I hope that helps you.
The argument the others made is whether to go with compositing effects in general or not, and that's been beaten to death. If you don't want eye-candy, you have CDE. Not trying to be too sarcastic here, just leave it alone if you don't like it and let others find out for themselves if they want to sacrifice the cycles to run it. - diffuze, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4No 64-bit builds yet unfortunately, hopefully they'll come soon. :(
- specialK16, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Heh...
ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. Nothing will happen if you remove it. Still if you are a beginner I agree, don't try this just yet. - MrKC, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Everyone needs to heed the warnings on Ubuntu Forums. This is an ALPHA of Fusion. Use at your own risk, I'll sit and wait for the final product, or my Gusty upgrade.
- stiankarlsen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Ah yes, I remember those days myself, though I really encourage you to try this! It was really easy, and done in a matter of minutes.
Just make sure youre system is up to date, and all should go well. - stiankarlsen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I think you're wrong (in this case anyway). Compiz/beryl/fusion isn't what it used to be. Today, setting either one up, has become insanely easy. If you're not familiar with linux at all, setting up fusion as described here might look a bit intimidating, sure. But to bottom line it, I used only a few minutes copy and pasting those lines into a terminal, and everything worked right away.
As far as it being practical, that's up for debate. I think it's very practical, in the sense that I always have a lot of windows up at the same time, and the cube, expo, tile function and what have you - makes it extremely easy to organize between them. - stiankarlsen, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Just installed it about an hr ago, works flawlessly! There are some things I don't like tho.
When zooming, you can't move around the screen with the mouse, nor use the keyboard.
ALso, im using it with AWN, its looking pretty neat.
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Just saw that teonewho, already commented on the zoom thing. - Prospero424, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2If you're using Beryl and it works just fine for you, there's not much reason to switch until it at least hits beta.
But I used these exact directions a couple of days ago, and they worked perfectly, even with me using Kubuntu/KDE.
I actually much prefer this version; it feels much tighter than the later builds of Beryl. The cube rotation is smoother, and the plugin management is great. Expo is by far the best multi-desktop implementation on ANY platform, in my opinion.
But on top of all, it's good to know that the Compiz guy(s) are bringing their considerable experience to the more advanced Beryl-type features that now seem to be demanded by a great majority of users. That can only have good results. - WebCrusader, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Thanks to Treviño we again have easy access to the edge Composite technology.
Expo is great, but I still miss the Input Zoom plug-in. - geoken, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Before you tell us how hard something is, can you preface your comment by informing everyone that you also get confused using your toaster and microwave.
- theonewho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Forget about compiz being the old days. Anyone else try to compile luminocity when it first came out? Compiz was a breeze in comparison.
- arniemg, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2You can customize it and turn off any features you don't like.
- Th3_anOmoLy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Personally I agree with the cool but not really practical view. But I do have friends who love to config their systems for the eye candy aspect alone. That's one of the reasons they love Linux. I think it's just another case of people wanting different things out of their computing experience. Same reason that hundreds of distrobutions of Linux are out there.
- Craga89, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Just wondering if there has been any substantial changes? Beryl is pretty stable on my system atm, not convinced I want to switch just yet.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I use Beryl because it's practical. I have no cube or flashy animations and eyecandy effects enabled, but many plugins make it 100 times better and easier to manage the desktop.
- ThrobbingBrain, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1There have been quite a few changes...Cube and Expo reflection being the coolest IMO. There's also the ability to draw on the desktop in fire. Currently it's a little unstable on my lapper, but when I installed it yesterday, I was blown away.
- MrKC, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Agreed.
- Cherubim, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm not game to mess with with my Ubuntu/Beryl setup at the moment. I'll wait until Compiz Fusion is stable before I go messing with my desktop.
- Prospero424, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Heh, I had the exact opposite experience when switching from Beryl. Then again, my hardware on this machine is pretty beefy.
- shrewduser, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1took me about 10 minutes, no hassle, perfect stability, 100% uptime.
its faster and has more features.... - tmahmood, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1yeah! I'm fade up with 64 bit compatibility problem :(
- theonewho, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3There are a couple of things about compiz fusion that bug me. There doesn't seem to ge a way to have keyboard input when in scale mode. When using the Zoom Desktop plugin the zoom doesn't follow the mouse. You have to hold a key and drag the desktop around. Very annoying.
That being said, the reflections are cool, and the Wall plugin is better than the beryl one (you can even keep the spinning cube at the same time in compiz baryl). Video playback is also better in compiz fusion for some reason. If you don't use zoom or keyboard input on scale, then I say give it a shot. - hugejimmy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Isn't this included with Ubuntu feisty fawn?
- SimonGray, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No, but Beryl and Compiz is. This is a newer version of Compiz + plugins from Beryl.
- specialK16, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It actually works WAY better than the latest 0.2.1 version of beryl I used...
- takitzis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Looks helpfull. Going to try it
- kevmaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0A step-by-step howto with many screenshots can be found here:
http://digg.com/linux_unix/A_Better_Compiz_Fusion_How_to - rapesaurus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Droooooool.....
- paulgifford, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Thanks for the link to the guide. It is unfortunate that it has the old bug of transparency with RDP connections to Windows servers. I will have to stick with my previous version for now. Great product and lots of cool things to play with.
- winstonc, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1One thing that bugged me about Beryl (I don't know about Fusion) is that there's way too much eye candy, and so many options that configuring it becomes a pain. I don't like wobbly windows and some of the other fancy effects. These effects look cool at first but they just annoyed me after a while. I also thought that the virtual desktop rotation was too slow, and I wanted to assign hotkeys to the Expose-like effects so that it would behave like my Mac. But to do these things, I had to sift through zillions of options, many (or even most) of which could not be inferred from the name -- you have to test them to see what they do. I hope that in some point of development, they manage to simplify the configuration a lot. It seems like they have a good technical foundation; now it's time to make it actually easy to use.
- virtualball, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3I'm sorry but I just don't like it. Digg me down all you want, but I just think it's another example of eyecandy over functionality. Apparently it takes a lot of time to get working but it just makes windows look like water, cubes of desktops, and other plugins. The other plugins are just worthless, the fire one, blur, and more.
I'm sorry that I disagree with some of you guys, I mean it is still VERY cool but it just doesn't seem practical. - 7of7, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4I'm in the same boat. Is it really worth replacing a working version of Beryl? Every time I've messed with Compiz or Beryl there has been a minimum of two weeks of fixing things to make it work correctly despite having an Nvidia card. I'd rather not go through all of that again.
- redxii, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2It's cools for 5 seconds. You find yourself moving windows for the sake of moving windows and closing/opening windows for the sake of closing/opening windows.
When you could be playing a game... in Windows (and heats your GPU up just as much). - hakukaji, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4yay! eye candy. just what i always wanted. cool stuff though.
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