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Compiz Fusion 0.7.2 Released

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  • neko, on 03/08/2008, -2/+10" - Match settings can be edited with a simple editor that supports easy
    grabbing of window properties"

    Looking forward to this one - I still can't get my 'match' rules to work, for some reason, having tried many permutations of spacing and quotes.
  • 4DFX, on 03/08/2008, -3/+7Nice job!
    Any builds available yet?
    • zachtib, on 03/08/2008, -3/+5it's already in hardy, my updates just came through.
      sadly, my laptop, which is the only computer running hardy here, doesn't support compiz
      damn you Radeon 9000!
      • djphatjive, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2I have one of those in my laptop and it ran it great. You just need to have the right driver. Ubuntu. Worked great.
  • Scyth3, on 03/08/2008, -6/+12http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/compiz/2008- ... - Specific changes to compiz since 0.7.0. Now, if only Intel would provide proper support to their gma965 chipset.
    • jakethecake, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2broken link.
    • renegadeafk, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2wtf are people digging a broken link...
      • Ademan, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1The elipses tell you that digg ate the link, not really his fault...
  • twljagflba, on 03/08/2008, -1/+14A tour of the new Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager (simple-ccsm) can be found at: http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=11974
  • Philluminati, on 03/08/2008, -26/+4I left out the specifics of why...

    but every time I see Compiz Fusion, god kills a kitten.
  • Kingoftherings, on 03/08/2008, -6/+5I can feel my mouth salivating already.
    • dawnraid101, on 03/08/2008, -11/+3i can see a linux fanboys ***** about to go in it too. ***** LINUX
      • thecheatah, on 03/08/2008, -3/+5ur gross, they shouldnt allow people like you on the internet!
        • 4DFX, on 03/08/2008, -2/+2Relax, he's just jealous because he's too stupid to use anything else but windows.
  • ksong12, on 03/08/2008, -3/+14I beg to differ, it ain't unstable for me, just pure satisfied glory.
    • danimals, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1i agree pure eye candy... and when it works perfectly, well ...thats just adding more sugar on sugar. LOVI'n IT
  • astrosmash, on 03/08/2008, -3/+11How can application developers take advantage of Compiz?
    • Dropperbr, on 03/08/2008, -12/+2Same as windows explore.. and finder for OSX does?
      • raynevandunem, on 03/08/2008, -0/+14No, he asked if there was a way for "application" developers, not OS developers, to take advantage of Compiz's features.

        Also, neither Windows Explorer nor Finder take advantage of Compiz, and don't even take advantage of their own compositing window managers (Aero, Quartz Compositor), since file navigation shells (including Nautilus and Dolphin) lie outside of the window manager's scope as far as developers are concerned.
    • gavintlgold, on 03/08/2008, -1/+4Perhaps add custom window animations? (example: airplane for sent messages in evolution, it's possible, i've done it)
      Though it isn't exactly easy to do much else in the way of customizing.
      • TPHigginbotham, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1How did you use the airplane animation for sent messages in Evolution? It sounds like a nice effect, but I don't see how you would be able to specifically match that window.
        • Ademan, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Compiz Fusion can add specific effects to windows that "match" certain critera, so you just write a "rule" that matches sent messages in evolution, and then set the properties for windows matching that rule, in this case the close animation being an airplane.
        • gavintlgold, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1I found out the specifics of the sending window, and, like Ademan said, wrote an item to match that and chose the airplane effect. Worked quite well... but I don't use evolution (I prefer gmail).
          • TPHigginbotham, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1It appears that I was just unfamiliar with Compiz window matching rules. I was looking for something more specific. For those interested, you can add the following window match to the "Close Animation": title=Compose Message

            Unfortunately, this also causes the animation to play even if you decide to not send the message. Perhaps there's a better rule but I'm still rather new to this.
      • stoanhart, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Maybe someone could port IncrediMail? ;)
    • raynevandunem, on 03/08/2008, -1/+8Not unless they are developing applications which rely upon compositing window managers, typically launchers (AWN, Kiba-dock, and a bunch of Dock clones) and widget engines (Screenlets).

      Any other applications which may want to incorporate OpenGL-generated animations from inside the application window will not be able to piggy-back on Compiz or any compositing window manager, since launchers and widget engines run outside of the windows (which means that they are dependent upon the window manager), while anything inside an application window (for instance, YouTube videos in Flash or Java-based apps like Limewire) is handled and rendered by the application, thus placing them outside of the window manager's scope.

      So, in short, not many types of applications can take advantage of Compiz effects.
      • astrosmash, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1I'm talking about stuff like this:
        http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-813680149 ...

        This Compiz update has lots of information about plugins that provide all sorts of mouse effects and ways to minimize windows, but I see no evidence of any sort of API that would allow normal developers do cool things with their apps.
        • stoanhart, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1As ray said, that is outside of the scope of the window manager for the most part. There are other API's, like Clutter, which let you do OpenGL effects with your application - it's still new, but expect more apps in the near future.
    • createcontent, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2It's about how the user decides to use the software.Compiz and Beryl both seem that way,not so much a "defined" purpose,they just give the user more options within they're gui.As you know that's always been a big "selling point" of most linux distros.Compiz and Beryl are just the evolution of that mentality.Give the user control over his or her environment,let them decide how they want it to look,feel,interact.When you start poking around forums for these "products" the first thing you notice is the sheer diversity.Every desktop from every user looks diff than the next one.In my mind that sorta the whole point of open source and Linux.Just my humble 2 centz..
    • Ademan, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Well a big part of Compiz Fusion (and window managers in general) is that their functioning should be essentially transparent to the "client" applications, so really there's not much an application could do with it, it's more what compiz fusion is doing with the applications (which, again, is intended to be totally transparent, the application shouldn't know or care what window manager is running at the time)

      Having said that, it would be pretty easy if compiz fusion provided a rules directory for window animations, /usr/share/compizfusion/windowrules and applications would drop rule files into that directory specific for their application, for instance someone above mentioned having the "airplane" effect when you sent a message in evolution, evolution would have a rule file that would match ONLY evolution "mail sending" windows, and it would define that when an evolution mail window closes, it should use the airplane effect.
  • byrdgang, on 03/08/2008, -9/+13This is the problem with many open source projects: the page that announces changes/updates is completely black and white, has no screenshots, and its objective is hardly to market itself. The open source world largely has a "Well, if you want to use this application, sure..fine..go ahead" attitude.

    It's nothing like "Buy/use me, because I am better than ever!" marketing we're used to.
    • stoph009, on 03/08/2008, -3/+9The features speak for themselves. If you want to market compiz, go ahead!
    • mysticmatrix, on 03/08/2008, -3/+24For god sake.. That's a development list used by developers, not the marketing list!!!
      It's up to your distro to advertise Compiz
    • jstone, on 03/08/2008, -2/+13"It's nothing like 'Buy/use me, because I am better than ever!' marketing we're used to."
      Wait... This is a bad thing?
    • sirhomer, on 03/08/2008, -4/+15For ***** sake it's a plain text e-mail. If you need some guy in a turtleneck with a PowerPoint to explain things to you maybe Linux isn't for you. Our goal is to make a high quality operating system, nothing more.
      • 6minuteabs, on 03/08/2008, -6/+2What's this 'our' ***** dude? I know who you are and I know you have nothing to do with any Linux development. Quit being a hanger-on.
    • thecheatah, on 03/08/2008, -1/+3Its because these are "internal pages". Not meant to be seen by non-developers. I would call this a feature. Black and white, easy on the eyes!
  • Buu700, on 03/08/2008, -15/+1Buried. Dupe. Original submission here: http://tinyurl.com/3bdhya
  • uberhaqer, on 03/08/2008, -5/+12@astromash: I am a web developer and I use compiz at work. When I want to find a certain window when there is a ton open and the task bar is so full you can't see the names, I whip my cursor to the top left and it scales all the windows onto the screen and I click the one I want. The zoom plug in is also handy for when I want to zoom in to something in PS without having to select the zoom tool, this actually does save time. The group plug in is also very handy for keeping your desktop tidy, for example I group tab all my browsers, Firefox, IE, Opera, Safari etc. Then I group tab all my development tools Zend, Eclipse etc, the my graphics apps PS, Gimp etc. So instead of have 10 windows open I can group all the windows into categories. As well as looking cool it can be very useful if you think about it in a more productive way than just thinking about it as eye candy, but it is some sweet eye candy none the less. :-)
    • Yarrrr, on 03/08/2008, -4/+1Reply button.
    • mossblaser, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2Finally, someone else who uses tabbed windows! One of the most unapreciated features of compiz fusion!
    • Amiga500, on 03/08/2008, -2/+1I'm going to call you out as a liar. Why the hell would you use Gimp if you already have PS available to you? Seriously. I also have to use PS for work purposes, mostly because things from our artists are in PSD format 9 times out of 10. Gimp is poorly suited to production work. You're a fanboi liar, and making yourself out to be a legitimate web designer is only going to fool birds of your feather.
  • AthelReiki, on 03/08/2008, -4/+5I found somewhere that open office will be using Compiz soon. I think its just the powerpoint version but it looks cool
  • dwalker19, on 03/08/2008, -10/+0http://revieweveryday.com
  • ronyu02, on 03/08/2008, -2/+14compiz-fusion-plugins-extra:
    - 3d: Adds depth to your desktop by raising windows in layers off the cube

    Probably the only update I've been waiting for. Beryl had this; I was wondering why they took it out.
  • HonestAbe, on 03/08/2008, -6/+2Too bad this doesn't work on my video card.
    • Malachai, on 03/08/2008, -1/+9Yeah, too bad. You're really missing out.
    • TheKage, on 03/08/2008, -1/+6What GPU are you using? Compiz Fusion works fine on my oldddd Radeon 9600SE 128mb.
      • mrmacky, on 03/08/2008, -1/+3If I recall, its the newer HD series that has problems with Linux, not the older cards, but I use NVidia, so my take on the whole ATi scene is probably wrong.
    • xyphur, on 03/08/2008, -1/+6...you must have a really old card, because after upgrading the stock card in my Dell Latitude C610 notebook (an ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY 16MB AGP) with an nVidia GeForce2Go 32MB AGP adapter from an Inspiron 4100 mainboard, Compiz runs flawlessly. It even worked on the original Radeon, but only after tricking compiz into thinking there was more than 16MB of available memory. I was actually quite surprised, that not only it was able to run, but that it ran half decent as well considering the hardware's age. Only under the heaviest use of effects does it start to show signs of lag on the current 32MB nVidia card. Needless to say, I was and still am quite impressed.
  • AppleMacMan, on 03/08/2008, -19/+2*YAWN* This stuff is already on a Mac. Still playing catch up Linux?
    • shakin, on 03/08/2008, -2/+16OS X is years behind Compiz Fusion. Actually, that implies that OS X will ever get a majority of the feature set of today's Compiz Fusion, which is not the case. Apple is developing an operating system and they have a competent window manager that gets the job done. They haven't the interest or developer time to dedicate to making the best window manager in the world because that won't sell any more Macs. The Compiz Fusion team are trying to build the most advanced window manager in the world and by many accounts they are succeeding (Although KWin 4 has impressed me as well).
      • sparc2112, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1edit.. nevermind...
      • scy1192, on 03/08/2008, -3/+1I think Apple could sell many more Macs if they made their GUI as flashy as Compiz Fusion. Even Aero on Windows has attracted potential buyers.
        • UKsHaDoW, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2The majority of compiz fusion is tacky. I don't think the designers would want it like that.
    • kaynesan, on 03/08/2008, -1/+4Actually, compiz-fusion is already far superior to OSX. I would be glad, if Apple implemented some features of compiz but I doubt that will be the case in the near future.
      btw, I've switched from Windows to Ubuntu to OSX myself. While OSX is great, I do miss some features from Ubuntu and its applications, for example Nautilus > Finder. And compiz-fusion.
  • Banelos, on 03/08/2008, -2/+3If you want some of the extra unsupported plugins for compiz like 3d windows, atlantis or screensaver on Ubuntu follow this guide:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=659282
    • ScottoGato, on 03/08/2008, -1/+1I've got Atlantis with 3d windows running on mine. Awesome plugins. I wish the fishies were a little more detailed, but it's fun having some pets in the background.
  • DestroyFascism, on 03/08/2008, -2/+2I like the way it picks up Windows apps in WINE now and applies some of the same transitions to *windows software the same way Vista does....of course you can always add more if you want to. Like blue flaming and exploding......
  • dawnraid101, on 03/08/2008, -16/+3Ok this is ***** lame, tommorow you will all be digging 0.7.2.000000001 . ***** linux. ***** People who use it. and most importantly ***** people who dugg this. Seriously GTFOutside and stop customising your gui, your not cool, other people dont think you are becuase you have a snazzy desktop, GOD most people dont even have a clue as to what linux is. XP / OS X FTW!!!!.
    • Nimroy, on 03/08/2008, -1/+3Do you want cheese with that wine (0.9.57)?
    • thecheatah, on 03/08/2008, -2/+4Whats up your ass?

      nvmind, I dont want to know
      • provost, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1lets just say he has a lot up his ass right now.
    • SickTear, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2virgin
    • geoken, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2I stopped caring whether or not other retards that I was cool when I was 7. Hopefully you'll get there someday and you'll be able to actually have a fulfilling life.
    • mossblaser, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2Ha ha, you got tricked into paying for Unix!
  • PsychTouch, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2any updated repository?
  • uberhaqer, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2A correction on my previous comment, I thought astromash asked how developers take advantage of Compiz, I think what you ment is how can developers take advantage of XGL/AIGLX. I think Compiz shows how developers can take advantage of XGL/AIGLX to make things looks cool and increase productivity as I descriped in my last comment.
  • 32bytes, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1I'm currently running a cvs checkout from 1~2 weeks ago.
    Does 0.72 still hangs with fullscreen opengl apps?
    It usually happens with Zsnes or Gens.
  • heartsblood, on 03/08/2008, -1/+3WOOOO 3d desktop is back!
  • AhronZombi, on 03/10/2008, -0/+1just installed smoothly with equo package manager. and it works perfectly with kde 4 and its window decorator
  • Killerah, on 03/10/2008, -0/+1Sweet! Now if only we could get window previews for minimized windows like we had in Beryl. I'm totally satisfied with Compiz Fusion other than that.
  • mhmdkhamis, on 06/01/2008, -0/+0This is the problem with many open source projects: the page that announces changes/updates is completely black and white, has no screenshots, and its objective is hardly to market itself. The open source world largely has a "Well, if you want to use this application, sure..fine..go ahead" attitude.

    It's nothing like "Buy/use me, because I am better than ever!" marketing we're used to.

    http://vb.paramegsoft.com/14/
    http://vb.paramegsoft.com/57/
    http://game.paramegsoft.com/
    http://download.paramegsoft.com/
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