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  • mysticmatrix, on 03/08/2008, -3/+24For god sake.. That's a development list used by developers, not the marketing list!!!
    It's up to your distro to advertise Compiz
  • shakin, on 03/08/2008, -2/+16OS X is years behind Compiz Fusion. Actually, that implies that OS X will ever get a majority of the feature set of today's Compiz Fusion, which is not the case. Apple is developing an operating system and they have a competent window manager that gets the job done. They haven't the interest or developer time to dedicate to making the best window manager in the world because that won't sell any more Macs. The Compiz Fusion team are trying to build the most advanced window manager in the world and by many accounts they are succeeding (Although KWin 4 has impressed me as well).
  • raynevandunem, on 03/08/2008, -0/+14No, he asked if there was a way for "application" developers, not OS developers, to take advantage of Compiz's features.

    Also, neither Windows Explorer nor Finder take advantage of Compiz, and don't even take advantage of their own compositing window managers (Aero, Quartz Compositor), since file navigation shells (including Nautilus and Dolphin) lie outside of the window manager's scope as far as developers are concerned.
  • twljagflba, on 03/08/2008, -1/+14A tour of the new Simple Compiz Config Settings Manager (simple-ccsm) can be found at: http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=11974
  • ronyu02, on 03/08/2008, -2/+14compiz-fusion-plugins-extra:
    - 3d: Adds depth to your desktop by raising windows in layers off the cube

    Probably the only update I've been waiting for. Beryl had this; I was wondering why they took it out.
  • sirhomer, on 03/08/2008, -4/+15For ***** sake it's a plain text e-mail. If you need some guy in a turtleneck with a PowerPoint to explain things to you maybe Linux isn't for you. Our goal is to make a high quality operating system, nothing more.
  • raynevandunem, on 03/08/2008, -0/+11Nope. It's using its own OpenGL-generated Compiz-like effects for the presentation app, but that is only available in a custom Linux version, and ultimately this plugin will be packaged as an extension in around May. The Windows OO.o will not see this until much later due to porting issues.

    http://www.oooninja.com/2008/02/eye-candy-3d-openg ... (with videos)
    http://digg.com/linux_unix/Impressive_Eye_Candy_3D ...
  • jstone, on 03/08/2008, -2/+13"It's nothing like 'Buy/use me, because I am better than ever!' marketing we're used to."
    Wait... This is a bad thing?
  • ksong12, on 03/08/2008, -3/+14I beg to differ, it ain't unstable for me, just pure satisfied glory.
  • inactive, on 03/08/2008, -3/+11How can application developers take advantage of Compiz?
  • neko, on 03/08/2008, -2/+10" - Match settings can be edited with a simple editor that supports easy
    grabbing of window properties"

    Looking forward to this one - I still can't get my 'match' rules to work, for some reason, having tried many permutations of spacing and quotes.
  • makario, on 09/03/2009, -1/+9Yeah, too bad. You're really missing out.
  • raynevandunem, on 03/08/2008, -1/+8Not unless they are developing applications which rely upon compositing window managers, typically launchers (AWN, Kiba-dock, and a bunch of Dock clones) and widget engines (Screenlets).

    Any other applications which may want to incorporate OpenGL-generated animations from inside the application window will not be able to piggy-back on Compiz or any compositing window manager, since launchers and widget engines run outside of the windows (which means that they are dependent upon the window manager), while anything inside an application window (for instance, YouTube videos in Flash or Java-based apps like Limewire) is handled and rendered by the application, thus placing them outside of the window manager's scope.

    So, in short, not many types of applications can take advantage of Compiz effects.
  • uberhaqer, on 03/08/2008, -5/+12@astromash: I am a web developer and I use compiz at work. When I want to find a certain window when there is a ton open and the task bar is so full you can't see the names, I whip my cursor to the top left and it scales all the windows onto the screen and I click the one I want. The zoom plug in is also handy for when I want to zoom in to something in PS without having to select the zoom tool, this actually does save time. The group plug in is also very handy for keeping your desktop tidy, for example I group tab all my browsers, Firefox, IE, Opera, Safari etc. Then I group tab all my development tools Zend, Eclipse etc, the my graphics apps PS, Gimp etc. So instead of have 10 windows open I can group all the windows into categories. As well as looking cool it can be very useful if you think about it in a more productive way than just thinking about it as eye candy, but it is some sweet eye candy none the less. :-)
  • bagboyrebel, on 03/08/2008, -1/+7I think you missed the joke.
  • stoph009, on 03/08/2008, -3/+9The features speak for themselves. If you want to market compiz, go ahead!
  • Scyth3, on 03/08/2008, -6/+12http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/compiz/2008- ... - Specific changes to compiz since 0.7.0. Now, if only Intel would provide proper support to their gma965 chipset.
  • inactive, on 03/08/2008, -1/+6What GPU are you using? Compiz Fusion works fine on my oldddd Radeon 9600SE 128mb.
  • xyphur, on 03/08/2008, -1/+6...you must have a really old card, because after upgrading the stock card in my Dell Latitude C610 notebook (an ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY 16MB AGP) with an nVidia GeForce2Go 32MB AGP adapter from an Inspiron 4100 mainboard, Compiz runs flawlessly. It even worked on the original Radeon, but only after tricking compiz into thinking there was more than 16MB of available memory. I was actually quite surprised, that not only it was able to run, but that it ran half decent as well considering the hardware's age. Only under the heaviest use of effects does it start to show signs of lag on the current 32MB nVidia card. Needless to say, I was and still am quite impressed.
  • 4DFX, on 03/08/2008, -3/+7Nice job!
    Any builds available yet?
  • byrdgang, on 03/08/2008, -9/+13This is the problem with many open source projects: the page that announces changes/updates is completely black and white, has no screenshots, and its objective is hardly to market itself. The open source world largely has a "Well, if you want to use this application, sure..fine..go ahead" attitude.

    It's nothing like "Buy/use me, because I am better than ever!" marketing we're used to.
  • gavintlgold, on 03/08/2008, -1/+4Perhaps add custom window animations? (example: airplane for sent messages in evolution, it's possible, i've done it)
    Though it isn't exactly easy to do much else in the way of customizing.
  • kaynesan, on 03/08/2008, -1/+4Actually, compiz-fusion is already far superior to OSX. I would be glad, if Apple implemented some features of compiz but I doubt that will be the case in the near future.
    btw, I've switched from Windows to Ubuntu to OSX myself. While OSX is great, I do miss some features from Ubuntu and its applications, for example Nautilus > Finder. And compiz-fusion.
  • heartsblood, on 03/08/2008, -1/+3WOOOO 3d desktop is back!
  • Nimroy, on 03/08/2008, -1/+3Do you want cheese with that wine (0.9.57)?
  • zachtib, on 03/08/2008, -3/+5it's already in hardy, my updates just came through.
    sadly, my laptop, which is the only computer running hardy here, doesn't support compiz
    damn you Radeon 9000!
  • renegadeafk, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2wtf are people digging a broken link...
  • mrmacky, on 03/08/2008, -1/+3If I recall, its the newer HD series that has problems with Linux, not the older cards, but I use NVidia, so my take on the whole ATi scene is probably wrong.
  • UKsHaDoW, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2The majority of compiz fusion is tacky. I don't think the designers would want it like that.
  • jakethecake, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2broken link.
  • thecheatah, on 03/08/2008, -2/+4Whats up your ass?

    nvmind, I dont want to know
  • thecheatah, on 03/08/2008, -3/+5ur gross, they shouldnt allow people like you on the internet!
  • uberhaqer, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2A correction on my previous comment, I thought astromash asked how developers take advantage of Compiz, I think what you ment is how can developers take advantage of XGL/AIGLX. I think Compiz shows how developers can take advantage of XGL/AIGLX to make things looks cool and increase productivity as I descriped in my last comment.
  • thecheatah, on 03/08/2008, -1/+3Its because these are "internal pages". Not meant to be seen by non-developers. I would call this a feature. Black and white, easy on the eyes!
  • Ademan, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1The elipses tell you that digg ate the link, not really his fault...
  • mossblaser, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2Ha ha, you got tricked into paying for Unix!
  • Ademan, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Compiz Fusion can add specific effects to windows that "match" certain critera, so you just write a "rule" that matches sent messages in evolution, and then set the properties for windows matching that rule, in this case the close animation being an airplane.
  • TPHigginbotham, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1It appears that I was just unfamiliar with Compiz window matching rules. I was looking for something more specific. For those interested, you can add the following window match to the "Close Animation": title=Compose Message

    Unfortunately, this also causes the animation to play even if you decide to not send the message. Perhaps there's a better rule but I'm still rather new to this.
  • AhronZombi, on 03/10/2008, -0/+1just installed smoothly with equo package manager. and it works perfectly with kde 4 and its window decorator
  • gavintlgold, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1I found out the specifics of the sending window, and, like Ademan said, wrote an item to match that and chose the airplane effect. Worked quite well... but I don't use evolution (I prefer gmail).
  • Ademan, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Well a big part of Compiz Fusion (and window managers in general) is that their functioning should be essentially transparent to the "client" applications, so really there's not much an application could do with it, it's more what compiz fusion is doing with the applications (which, again, is intended to be totally transparent, the application shouldn't know or care what window manager is running at the time)

    Having said that, it would be pretty easy if compiz fusion provided a rules directory for window animations, /usr/share/compizfusion/windowrules and applications would drop rule files into that directory specific for their application, for instance someone above mentioned having the "airplane" effect when you sent a message in evolution, evolution would have a rule file that would match ONLY evolution "mail sending" windows, and it would define that when an evolution mail window closes, it should use the airplane effect.
  • MisaMisaFTW, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1O noes! I just got Rejected!
  • stoanhart, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1As ray said, that is outside of the scope of the window manager for the most part. There are other API's, like Clutter, which let you do OpenGL effects with your application - it's still new, but expect more apps in the near future.
  • mossblaser, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2Finally, someone else who uses tabbed windows! One of the most unapreciated features of compiz fusion!
  • stoanhart, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Maybe someone could port IncrediMail? ;)
  • 32bytes, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1I'm currently running a cvs checkout from 1~2 weeks ago.
    Does 0.72 still hangs with fullscreen opengl apps?
    It usually happens with Zsnes or Gens.
  • TPHigginbotham, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1How did you use the airplane animation for sent messages in Evolution? It sounds like a nice effect, but I don't see how you would be able to specifically match that window.
  • geoken, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2I stopped caring whether or not other retards that I was cool when I was 7. Hopefully you'll get there someday and you'll be able to actually have a fulfilling life.
  • createcontent, on 03/08/2008, -1/+2It's about how the user decides to use the software.Compiz and Beryl both seem that way,not so much a "defined" purpose,they just give the user more options within they're gui.As you know that's always been a big "selling point" of most linux distros.Compiz and Beryl are just the evolution of that mentality.Give the user control over his or her environment,let them decide how they want it to look,feel,interact.When you start poking around forums for these "products" the first thing you notice is the sheer diversity.Every desktop from every user looks diff than the next one.In my mind that sorta the whole point of open source and Linux.Just my humble 2 centz..
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