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- darkchild, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18Lovely. I am tempted to compile this and give it a spin. Thanks for the hard work KDE devs.
- GerbilSoft, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Because Konqueror isn't built into the operating system. Internet Explorer is.
- Leviathan777, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Shut up you cnut.
- tiftof, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Binary packages are available so it seems like an easy install. Maybe I`ll try it out. Might be switching from gnome to kde once it`s out of beta.
- GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12The best thing is that some crufty parts of KDE are getting replaced. The death of Artsd has been long heralded and on the day KDE 4 finally gets released I will burn 10,000 copies of the Arts source code, once for every time it almost drove me to grabbing a chainsaw and going on a rampage through town.
I was going to burn a virgin on the pile of source (to sate the daemon and ensure it never returns) but was talked out of it by a leprechaun. Who are these nice men with white coats, what mwwfmwf.... - cr0y, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12The only thing harder then getting it to compile and run is pronouncing the codename.
- hyperfocal, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10And dancing paperclips are professional?
- Dhalgren, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10This is the only cartoon dragon I see: http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/scaled/KDE%204.0%20Beta%201/2.gif
How often would you come across that? - bigtomrodney, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9That not the only way to rearrange the letters :p
- keyo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Should be a huge improvement on 3.5, can't wait for the final to come out, hopefully that will be included with kubuntu gutsy gibbon. Plasma looks prety cool and amarok should be a lot more user friendly now. Dolphin looks great but hopefully it won't stall work on konqueror. Thanks for the hard work all the artists and developers put in.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9If KDE4 doesn't boost the transition to linux as a desktop OS, nothing will.
I have been waiting for this since more than 2 years ago. - GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Because of how it's done. Konqueror is not a monolithic application. Really it can be thought of as an API (KParts is the actual API, Konqueror is a KPart viewer), what you see is a series of applications written in the KPart API that are generally viewed through Konqueror. The web browser, file browser, text editor, pdf viewer, etc are all different applications. Because they are different applications it is still the case that each focuses on one job and tries to do it well.
On the other hand IE is just a monolithic piece of crap that does nothing well. The idea isn't bad but both under the hood and in terms of outward functionality IE was done badly. - vpeter, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9This is how the actual interface will look like (this is not a mockup):
http://www.petervajda.com/oxygen_current.png - keyo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Big ups to the kde team. Oxygen, plasma, amarok and heaps of other stuff looks great for the user, and they have improved efficiency, great.I hope this gains it some enterprise support, it would be great to see in redhat and novell distros as default.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Also, in KDE4, they're changing that by making Dolphin the file browser and Konqueror the web browser (Konq. will still be able to browse files, but the default will be Dolphin). Anyway, if you don't like that about Konqueror, you can always uninstall it and use some other web browser/file browser
- sishgupta, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Some of the best changes have yet to be fully implemented. I am looking forward to the monthly betas
- GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7The excitement is about underground changes so far. A lot of them are in areas related to art which will make it look pretty once the work is done. A lot of vector rendering and accelerated graphics going into it (from a very low level rather than tacked on like it is now with GNOME).
KDE4 is as much an investment in the future as anything now. It provides a very nice API which will mean the work load for making apps is greatly reduced. I only hope we get quality bindings outside of C++. - TheSeeker11, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Sweet. I can't wait till KDE 4 starts trickling into Debian's Unstable repos.
- bobcrotch, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I had a machine sitting at a KDE 3.5 desktop and a user came up and said "Wow is this Vista?" I replied "No it's KDE, a window manager running on Linux"
The user thought it was pretty cool and I let him play around with it a bit, he seemed enthusiatic. - antitab, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Great, now let's just get some of that Plasma goodness going! KDE 4 is shaping up to be a milestone in the Linux desktop, and that's coming from a hardcore Enlightenment and OS X fan :)
- Tenoq, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Brilliant comment. Couldn't stop laughing at that one for some reason. :D
- bongert, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6See, I figured it was an homage to Don Knuth. But since his name already starts with a KDE K, they had to go and be different. Hence "Cnuth".
- flyingmeteor, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10I just left KDE because I thought gnome was better, this version might just change that...
- UKsHaDoW, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5if you payed attention, you'd noticed all new apps have.
- Skeithy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5KDE 4 looks exciting for programmers and users. It maximizes code reuse, provides a single API for multimedia + hardware, and has Kross which allows you to add in scripting languages easily to programs. For users its trying to provide a smooth and easy experience while being fast.
- arjie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'm surprised it wasn't a K. So I googled, and I ended up with this: http://www.kabalarians.com/Male/cnuth.htm
Ha ha, I love the internet.
Also, we could all corrupt it to Knut and then adopt a polar bear as the logo. Quite the partner for Tux, eh? - Rhinobird, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Actually, me thinks it's a joke. It looks like they named this after Donald Knuth. KDE stuff usually starts with a K. But there is already a K, so they changed it to a C...just mess with us.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4no, they've released the KDE4 Alpha's a few days after the KDE4 Alpha's were announced on kde.org
- polymorphist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It reminds me of Donald Knuth, author of "The Art of Computer Programming"
- Elranzer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4What Linux needs is marketing. People who don't know about Linux now don't know about KDE4.
- grg183, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4or dogs searching for lost files ? lol
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3yeah,
kwin is a window manager, but KDE is a desktop environment. - wyfflemunky, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4C'Thun?
- kazamx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Gutsy comes out a few weeks before KDE 4.0 is released. So it will come with 3.5, however they did say that it will include some of the new features. I guess someone will release a version with 4.0 or you can just upgrade yourself :-)
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah, they usually release KDE4 repos/packages a few days after the KDE releases on kubuntu.org
- gmallard, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4The name is pronounced just like the name of a famous computer scientist: Donald Knuth.
- lengau, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It's not a release candidate yet, though. It's a beta. They aren't just doing bug fixes. The libraries are feature complete and relatively stable, but the apps still need some work.
And how are codenames and betas closed-source-style anyway? - morphir, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3yes, the K is annoying and bad branding. But as ukshadow said, they have left this naming convention.
- Gavagai80, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Apparently they don't intend to get away with it anymore (and were perhaps getting ***** for it), hence Dolphin. There really are some annoyances to the combination, some settings that should be different by context but aren't.
- epohs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Nuth
- lengau, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah, but uninstalling IE isn't as easy as:
sudo apt-get remove konqueror
sudo emerge --unmerge konqueror
sudo yum remove konqueror
etc.
This might break some dependencies in KDE, but the whole OS doesn't come crashing down. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2what it really needs is support from computer retailers, because most people buy their computers with windows installed. If every (or most) computer retailers gave an option between windows and linux, at first it won't seem like many people will use it, many people would just "waste their money" on it to find out what it is, then when they find out they didn't waste their money, it will probably spread by word of mouth, and before you know it, linux will reign supreme.
That was the longest run-on sentence ever. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2does linux even have stock?
- lengau, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Not into the default install, no.
However, it will be available in the repos and there's supposed to be a KDE4 Gutsy CD.
The main problem is that KDE4.0 is scheduled for release a couple of weeks after Kubuntu gutsy is.
Keep checking kubuntu.org, though! - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Or wait 'till for the Riddell package :)
- Skeithy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2 "Kross" is the modular scripting framework for KDE 4, I believe Plasma already uses it so you can write widgets in Ruby, Javascript and Python. Other KDE programs are planning on using it.
- heavyal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Interesting .. the tool bars actually look a bit more Gnome-ish this time around. IMO that makes them more usable than the scatter/splatter of icons that were the previous incarnations of KDE. I want to see how the dock bar looks though - that is my number one irritant of most of these do-everything desktop environments; not enough though put into organizing the dock bars. YMMV of course, that's just my opinion.
- eean, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2One can be pretty sure the day KDE 4.0 is released, there will be packages availabe on http://www.kubuntu.org
- pooptaster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3KDE isn't a window manager.
- MrTea, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Don't know, but it does remind me of the old english word for knight: cnyht. None of the consonants were silent by the way.
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