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- sjvn, on 11/28/2007, -9/+90Please. Newer Wi-Fi cards do work with Linux. Period. It's the older ones that are still troublesome. Also, RTFA, I'm writing about low-end laptops, no ATI Xpress 1250 here. But, in any case, ATI has a Linux driver for the ATI X1250. If you have trouble, see:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3612673
for details on to get it work.
Vista hardware support, by the way, remains spotty to say the least, when it hasn't deliberately been broken. For example, I still can't Vista to work with the common-as-dirt RealTek ALC 882 audio chipset. It does support, on the same system, the Intel High Definition audio chip, Azalia. Except, by design, you can't push DRM protected audio through the Azalia's high-end audio output: the S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface Format), And, I never will. Why? Because Microsoft deliberately prevents DRM-encoded audio to be played through that interface. So, for example, I can't play my Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot CD on my Vista system.
This, this is the operating system you think is better? Please. Wake up, look at what even Windows lovers are saying about Vista. This isn't just a matter of Linux being better, it's a matter of Vista being poorer.
Steven. - chingy1788, on 11/28/2007, -7/+56XP and Linux on your old or cheap laptops
Vista on the Laptops that can actually handle them
I hate it when Manufacturers put Vista on Systems with 512MB of RAM
Vista runs like a mouse trying to power a city on those systems
But when you give Vista some real hardware (2GB of RAM) Vista shines like the sun
Linux runs on practically everything, like some overly aroused guy who will fornicate with everything - Philluminati, on 11/28/2007, -7/+55"put Vista Home Basic on the system—which even Vista lovers admit is trash"
--They're not *really* vista lovers are they? That made me chuckle. - inactive, on 11/28/2007, -3/+48I see your complaints, and the problem is you just don't know what the ***** you are babbling about.
I guess you didn't bother to read the article before you showed off your lack of understanding, but this is about laptops that CAN'T run Vista.
Don't blame the linux software just because you don't know how to configure it. - insllvn, on 11/28/2007, -7/+41So is 2007 the year of the Linux........ Laptop?
- whataboutdave, on 11/28/2007, -1/+34"Linux runs on practically everything, like some overly aroused guy who will fornicate with everything"
Comment of the day. I'm signing off now because I just can't hope to compete. - Jawshie, on 11/28/2007, -3/+35Just like in Windows Vista, it is wise to consider buying hardware that actually works with the OS instead of randomly buying and bitching. No OS is exception to this.
- cynicist, on 11/28/2007, -2/+32Everyone who has used Windows for 20 years thinks they are an expert on computers, but once they try Linux they realize how little they know...
- shabumike, on 11/28/2007, -19/+48Vista is a failure, that is a non issue and unarguable. Microsoft's stranglehold is slowly crumbling and opening the door to some serious OS advancements.
- HaloZero, on 11/28/2007, -1/+23There's no such thing as a "cheap" macBook
- shabumike, on 11/28/2007, -2/+24I see your complaints, and the problem is you just don't know what the ***** you are babbling about. - just wanted to repeat that!
- bubut, on 11/28/2007, -4/+24What I don't understand is, when did all the Mac and Linux fanboys start to love XP? Now that Vista is out, they act like XP is the best thing since sliced bread.
- zapperdude60, on 11/28/2007, -3/+23i somehow can't take you seriously when you have a windows icon as your picture
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -1/+17The problem is companies throwing Vista on systems where the minimal system requirements are barely met, and it runs horribly.
- deadbaby, on 11/28/2007, -6/+21This is entirely true. My friend bought the cheapest Toshiba you can get with Vista and it was actually noticeably slower than her old laptop which was at least 5 years old. Microsoft should have made the minimum specs for Vista 1GB of RAM so these OEMs weren't tempted to ship 512MB machines to save $10. The out of box experience is very important. I'm starting to think Microsoft should just get into the PC hardware business themselves so they can have more control over this stuff.
- MWeather, on 11/28/2007, -2/+16Show me where I can get a new laptop with 2gb of memory for $600. I'll buy one today.
- stmiller, on 11/28/2007, -0/+14Yes, obviously you know your way around computers. Therefore, it is the fault of Linux.
- Phocion55, on 11/28/2007, -4/+18And my faith in humanity plummets to an all-time low....
- salmonmoose, on 11/28/2007, -0/+13You poor bastard.
I'm running Aero on a system with 512mb of video ram :P - inactive, on 11/28/2007, -2/+13.. old laptop.
- darrin, on 11/28/2007, -0/+11You mean...be like Apple?
- sn0wmis3r, on 11/28/2007, -0/+11i have your exact same video chipset and had no problem setting up ubuntu 7.10 with compiz fusion, also had no problem getting my wireless to work as well
- mrjit, on 11/28/2007, -1/+11I don't want Vista on my 4GB'd desktop, much less any piece of computer equipment I own, cheap, expensive, or amazing/*****.
- cynicist, on 11/28/2007, -1/+11As a Linux fanboy, neither are interesting to me.
- MWeather, on 11/28/2007, -1/+11"the only thing it's failing to do is keep people interested or pacified with windows"
Isn't that Vista's entire purpose? It sure as hell wasn't to compete with Leopard and Linux, because it doesn't. - Nossie, on 11/28/2007, -2/+10Compared to Vista.... ANYTHING is better...
even mac fanboys have heart enough to give alternatives :) - ChuqAU, on 11/28/2007, -0/+7The Eee PC is old?
- arbulus, on 11/28/2007, -0/+7and we care about ANYbody's laptop why?
- klisejo, on 11/28/2007, -1/+8No, what he saying is besides the point. Laptops with high quality gfx cards aren't cheap. We already know Vistat a runs fine on those. Its the $300~500 laptops that cant run it, and those are the ones being sold by the truck load.
- Zimmyzum, on 11/28/2007, -0/+6Since when has "Windows" become synonymous with "computers"?
- VinceNoir, on 11/28/2007, -1/+7The fact that you cal it a lappy says something about you. What is says isn't nice...
- schoate09, on 11/28/2007, -1/+7Really, try running OS X 10.5 on a 1.25 GHz G4, and see how Apple ignored their older users. Or try the new silver iMacs, grab the firmware update that lowers the benchmarks, so it doesn't freeze up!
- daverave999, on 11/28/2007, -3/+9Did you read the article?
- inactive, on 11/28/2007, -0/+6Couldn't agree more.
- carpespasm, on 11/28/2007, -3/+9the only thing it's failing to do is keep people interested or pacified with windows. this is a pretty serious failure for microsoft since those two things are what's kept so many people using it, but with them losing ground with improved linux, ever-growing compatible hardware for macs, web based software, and less and less importance placed on one's OS in general, MS really needed something no one else had, and needed it to be very integrated and very useful. Instead we got a warmed over XP with a new interface layer and and Clippy's spirit reincarnated into UAC.
- GRTWHT, on 11/28/2007, -0/+6Yes, you do.
- TotalHalibut, on 11/28/2007, -4/+10"It runs Linux flawlessly!" - and nothing else...
- TotalHalibut, on 11/28/2007, -4/+10Quick guys, let's Digg him down because he's had a positive experience with Vista. This is ruining our delusional macroverse.
- arbulus, on 11/28/2007, -0/+5Discussions on XP when talking about Vista center around the fact that people are buying Vista and then downgrading BACK to XP because Vista is a POS. It's not about XP being good, it's about a 5 year old OS being better than "new" and supposedly "revolutionary" Vista.
It's just funny. I personally don't use Windows as a desktop. I have it safely contained in a VM and only use it for apps that have no Linux port or comparable FOSS equivalent. I would never go back to Windows as a desktop and I couldn't really care if anyone else does either. The whole thing is just comical in an ironic way after all of Microsoft's marketing and blabbering. - wing05, on 11/28/2007, -7/+12Hey, what are you talking about?
Vista is the most vastly improved piece of OS to come from Microsoft since..... since....
Windows ME! - richardiscool, on 11/28/2007, -7/+12Congratulations?
- gudnbluts, on 11/28/2007, -4/+8Very true. Earlier this year my workhorse laptop died, and I didn't need the power anymore, so just I bought the cheapest lappy I could find that had a bigger than 15 inch screen. It had all the "Vista ready" stickers on it, but just had half a gig of RAM.
When I looked into the requirements, the lack of real benefits and the cost of upgrading to Vista, it was in no way worth it. If I'd wanted to spent hundreds of dollars to do exactly the same stuff I'd have bought a Mac. If I wanted an up to date OS, I needed to look elsewhere.
So here I am with a nice nippy lappy that does everything I want, and more, and now has a mentally-challenged looking penguin in the middle of the wallpaper. Works for me. - inactive, on 11/28/2007, -0/+4tru dat
- FDL1, on 11/28/2007, -2/+6OS X works well on cheap laptops, too. Granted, it's mostly because MacBooks have used Intel's integrated GMA 950 chipset for a year and a half. I'm glad they moved on to the _next_ lowest end integrated graphics (Intel X3100)...
- sniperboy67, on 11/28/2007, -5/+9i know my compaq laptop slow with windows but i get linux its beautiful btw it was 500$
- klisejo, on 11/28/2007, -0/+4What about us XP fanboys who wont upgrade because of the hit to our performance? I wont install vista until I stop seeing games under vista 20% slower than xp.
- VinceNoir, on 11/28/2007, -0/+4Oh Teddy Ruxpin you've changed...
- whiteguysamurai, on 11/28/2007, -0/+4Ubuntu...not really.
Xubuntu however, yes. - treyd, on 11/28/2007, -1/+5For people on a budget, these cheap laptops are wonderful. Unfortunately, most laptop manufacturers seem bound and determined to ship Windows Vista on all their machines, including the low-end models, blatantly ignoring the fact that the notebook will effectively be too slow to be do much anything on.
In these situations, a good Linux distro can be a lifesaver. The user can still purchase a low-end machine, but have a full-featured OS that runs leaps and bounds faster than Vista on the same hardware. - beret9987, on 11/28/2007, -0/+3What Vista really needs in my opinion is better power management. Maybe its just me, but I get worse battery life on my Macbook Pro in Vista than I did in XP. 4 hours turned to 2.5 hours! I'm switching back to XP ASAP. I'll jump ship in a couple of years maybe.
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