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- spikeb, on 11/14/2007, -1/+35that is a pretty good idea - they could also sell other compatible stuff too. I don't think they will, however.
- carpespasm, on 11/11/2007, -0/+25The Linux market is getting big enough that I think there could be a good opportunity for a company to set up shop testing/researching and selling Linux compatible hardware, especially if they had it listed by distro/version compatibility and had a scale from "Just Works" to "Never gonna happen".
Hell, even an existing company like newegg could sell a pile of stuff if they opened up a Linux compatible section. - geminitojanus, on 11/11/2007, -0/+24Canonical is not a reseller, it's not in their business model.
Feel free to set up your own Linux compatible hardware store and sell Linux compatible hardware, though. - zwaldowski, on 11/11/2007, -1/+19I'm sick of goddamn Digg trolls still living in their parent's basement and sitting on their fat asses complaining about Linux users. Hey jackasses, the world DOES NOT revolve around you. Look at the world - things are changing (So what if Microsoft is the majority market share, they're just making terrible products) Stop your bitching and chanting.
- lengau, on 11/11/2007, -0/+17Also, they would probably earn money from the users of other distros, too. If something is Ubuntu-compatible, it is more than likely compatible with just about any Linux distro. This would be an ideal place for Linux/BSD users to buy their hardware.
- EnterDaMatrix, on 11/11/2007, -2/+18For now, heres a list of some hardware that is very Linux friendly:
General Hardware: Anything from Intel,
Wifi: Ralink chipsets, Atheros chipsets, Prism54 chipsets, TI ACX100 chipset
Graphics: Intel or Nvidia
Audio: EMU10K1 chipset (Soundblaster Live! and Audigy), ENVY24 (most cards will work now) - Skooma714, on 11/12/2007, -0/+14Those things are buggy as hell.
- MacEnvy, on 11/11/2007, -1/+15Come to think of it, that's Apple's business model.
- daverave999, on 11/13/2007, -0/+13ROFL! Like what? Vista?
- jahabdank, on 11/11/2007, -1/+14I do not understand why - they could have an entire store with fully supported computer stuff (printers, screens etc.) - they could make a lot of money, and provide a marked where we could buy things. Every time I want to buy something I waste sometimes days, to find out what actually will run under Linux! Why do you think they will not open a store?
- Balla79, on 11/13/2007, -0/+11My USB WIfi card stopped working with Vista. :) Works flawlessly in Ubuntu 7.10 How ironic. :)
- Coldkill, on 11/11/2007, -0/+11Can't even post properly
- daverave999, on 11/11/2007, -1/+11Take over the world.
- Coldkill, on 11/11/2007, -5/+14I'm tired of all the trolls. GET LOST *****!
- carpespasm, on 11/11/2007, -0/+8i wish some damn body would.
- Phocion55, on 11/13/2007, -0/+8Which OS is this?
- 9a3eedi, on 11/12/2007, -2/+10It's not linux's fault that wifi cards don't work.. it's the guy that does the wifi cards who's to blame.. as he doesnt provide the drivers for linux. Linux is already doing a good job providing wifi drivers. If you stuck in your WiFi card into your Windows box, without using the driver CD... will it work? probably not.. but in some cases, it works for linux.
- Phocion55, on 11/11/2007, -0/+8I love the people who help support my "Microsoft sympathizers have an average IQ of 12" theory. Dugg up.
- tsaylor, on 11/12/2007, -3/+11Talk to girls?
- leexy, on 11/11/2007, -0/+8Somebody needs to get laid.
- Coldkill, on 11/11/2007, -1/+9Well done, sir
- mdshort, on 11/12/2007, -0/+7In a perfect world maybe, but in our majority ruled society some businesses just don't care enough about linux to create a driver for it. It is hard to build a driver for a wireless card that doesn't even list it's specs.
- carpespasm, on 11/11/2007, -0/+7yeah, but some of them have a beautiful layout.
- CrossfireCurt, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7I would have gladly bought a cheap wifi card if I knew I didn't have to waste 5 hours trying to install the driver for my current one.
- Dankoozy, on 11/11/2007, -2/+9This might be a shameless plug for Ralink but I was using a ralink-based card in my ubuntu server for over a year and it never disconnected.
- luchid, on 11/13/2007, -0/+6Accessible as in you-cannot-see-the-source-code-and-you-must-sign-an-EULA-allowing-us-to-rape-you-up-the-butt Vista?
- stoanhart, on 11/11/2007, -0/+6The old intel driver has been replaced. The Widescreen issue is gone
- zwaldowski, on 11/13/2007, -0/+6Huh?
- liquidpele, on 11/11/2007, -0/+6To answer your question, it's a driver thing. If the company making the chipset does not release a driver, or doesn't release specifics on the card for people to write their own drivers, it leaves linux without a driver for the hardware and thus the hardware cannot be used by the system. As Linux becomes more popular, this problem will go away because companies will realize they are alienating a potential market.
As for you wanting to test Linux - just stick the Ubuntu CD and boot! The CD starts off as a liveCD - so no installation is needed and you can see if it works with your hardware or not. Then if you want to install it permanently, the installation program is right there on the desktop - just double click and the installation begins. Note: you'll want at least 512 MB of ram for the liveCD to function properly. It says at least 256, but I found it took 30 minutes to boot on that... - andycr512, on 11/11/2007, -0/+5Or wait until he turns 14 before logging back into Digg...
- Phocion55, on 11/10/2007, -0/+5or take their medication....
- unruled, on 11/10/2007, -0/+4its a nice idea, but its better if they just manage to patch up wifi for all cards.
Razordancer: the problem is that wifi card manufacturers do not give out their specifications/or drivers for the linux platform, so basically everything is kind of reverse engineered.
the last 2 versions of ubuntu have had major improvements on the wifi thing though.. give it another go. - mcsloy, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4mine worked fine on first boot? just the shuttle wifi addon?
- johnboyholmes, on 11/12/2007, -0/+4ra2500 et al are not very Gutsy friendly... If you have one you will know what I mean.
- jahabdank, on 11/10/2007, -0/+4I know all of that - Atheros - of course. But you have no guaratee that a WiFi card which used Atheros yesterday, will use it tommorow. And the number will remain the same.
Anyhow - the topic is actually a bit wrong: I am just sying that Linux corporation like Novel or Canonical, or some subcontractors cooperating with them, should make stores with Linux compatibile hardware (the WiFi is just the worst example which troubles most of Laptop users). - sprash, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4The solution to all this problems is easy:
Certification!
Canonical should certificate hardware which runs with Ubuntu. So when you go out and buy new hardware you just watch out for the "runs under Ubuntu" sticker on the package and you'll be fine. - razordancer, on 11/10/2007, -0/+4Thanks for the replies - Good info... I'm going to try putting Edubuntu an my old laptop for my kids to play with. I'll start with a hard line and try to figure out if there are drivers to install for my chipset.
I guess I was just being lazy wanting everything to work 100% out of the box with the liveCD, which just isn't possible. - andycr512, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4I've had about 4-5 randomly chosen wifi cards work out of the box on Ubuntu - in fact, I can't find one that -doesn't- get detected and installed out of the box.
- luchid, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4Well to be fair, it's not their fault. Having to deal with windows makes your IQ drop. I feel for them.
- Giga, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4I would call that a shameful plug. Ralink cards are poorly supported when it comes to WPA.
- luchid, on 11/11/2007, -0/+4Homophobia is a well known sign of repressed homosexuality. Bury, report and block him.
- zwaldowski, on 11/11/2007, -0/+3Huh?
- Cymrubeats, on 11/11/2007, -3/+61. Sell hardware linked to your distro
2. cut deals with manufacturers
3. leave out support for other manufacturers
4. profit!!! - mrsteveman1, on 11/11/2007, -1/+4They actually switch revisions, i have a belkin USB wireless stick that used 4 different chipsets depending on the revision, but it was well known which one was in each revision.
- andycr512, on 11/10/2007, -0/+3No, that's not lazy - you should expect the OS you use to work, and they're working on it. It's getting better all the time, and there are huge compatibility leaps constantly. Welcome to the Linux world! :)
- EnterDaMatrix, on 11/11/2007, -0/+3Yeah, I just figured it would be helpful for people who possibly wanted to know about hardware compatibility to have a short list that would come close to guaranteeing compatibility for them. Usually cards that change their chipset change their version number. This information is easy to find with google. I agree that a store should exist, but for now someone might find this (very brief) list helpful.
- luchid, on 11/11/2007, -0/+3Same, only thing that didn't work was a crappy USB ADSL modem. Got an ethernet one instead.
- luchid, on 11/11/2007, -0/+3Will digg still be around in 7 years?
- lioneljaffry, on 11/11/2007, -1/+4The linux emporium does exactly this: http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/
- Chandon, on 11/11/2007, -0/+3Like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Wireles ...
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