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- underdog5004, on 10/11/2007, -2/+38It's ok, but for a really great setup, I would use the server-edition of ubuntu, plus rtorrent for the bittorrent stuff (you can have it scan the torrent dir for new torrents and auto-start them, which is nice), and of course, openssh-server for remote access.
- shad0walker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22Torrentflux is a very nice solution for a headless server
- steven401, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21Yep, but BitTorrent is free.
- JoshuaH, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Theres still plenty of thriving private torrent sites. And I've never really had problems with speed...Just gotta know where to get good torrents I guess.
- stefpet, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11If you're going to leech torrents all day long it's better to have your thin, lean ubuntu machine without even a monitor up 24/7 rather than having your quadro SLI power-eating hotrod constantly powered on.
That's why.
Additionally, getting all these things off your workstation and you don't have to bother, that's nice too. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11All that is too much.
Use TorrentFlux instead. It has a web interface to control it all and works right after a "sudo aptitude install torrentflux" - mrmacky, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8It's not that dumb to use BT on another computer. You won't be fragmenting the hard-drive on your normal computer, and there will also be no extra-torrent-overhead on the normal computer, allowing you to continue playing games, and whatnot.
Lots of people like seedboxes, but generally they're a pain in the arse unless you hijack the neighbors wifi - oSiBo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Like several people said, if you have a LAMP server running it's nice to install torrentflux. I personally installed the moded version of torrentflux ( torrentflux-b4rt) because it got many more features than torrentflux and is continuously updated.
- Ryuuzaki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I do this with debian, using rtorrent and gnu screen. The computer is an old pentium-mmx@200MHz with 96mb RAM.
- tastypastry, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12Usenet does not exist. I don't know what you are talking about.
- siggyfawn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Which works great if you're under 16 and don't have a job. People actually sneak around downloading BT files? That's hilarious.
- angel0, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12isn't it the same? if i use torrents in this pc, and lots of them at the same time, my internet connection goes slow.
If i run torrents on another pc (bittorrent box), wouldn't internet be slow for all the network?
Then whats the point, more money on hardware + electricity ? - Canute, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I just have TorrentFlux and an Apache server. Don't even need to ssh into the box.
- Rossimo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7"sharing the files *with* complete ease", dammit!
- drag, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6If you have a dedicated file server and have enough ram (say 256 megs or so) then installing TorrentFlux will probably be nice.
It's a LAMP-based (Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP) application that actually has a pretty good user interface and feature set. So you can run it from any normal web browser. A nice way to check up on your torrents and such from work or whatever.
'apt-get install torrentflux' should mostly work on Debian and probably Ubuntu, but don't de surprised if it needs a little bit of extra configuration to work well. It's worth it though.
It has a fancy interface. Has built-in search support for most popular torrent sights. Supports RSS feeds for torrent downloads. Has website-style multi-user support. Supports torrent uploads and all sorts of other fancy features.
http://www.torrentflux.com/ - Seggallion, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Yeah, it almost sounded like the author knew what he was talking about until he mentioned Azureus.
- siggyfawn, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7You gotta be kidding. I download at 900k a second all the time with bittorrent. And all of my fav sites, have never gone down. Usenet is costly, and is a lot harder to find older stuff. It's not even comparable.
- cfuse, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Neither does IRC.
- SomeImagination, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It bypasses isp throttling....nothing to do with lawsuits
- Sneakydave, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Its so you can seed when your main box is switched off.
- jhaitas, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4i second that...
i ssh in to my ubuntu-server and control my torrents with rtorrent - Sneakydave, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Why you people think something that's been around for decades is worth keeping 'secret' I will never know.
- icecubed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I thought that it would be something else, like a router with BT support.
My Howto/setup:
1. Get a router with an usb port ( asus wl-500gP ) and a usb hdd ( or a hdd with an ethernet port and linksys )
2. Get OpenWRT/X-WRT on it.
3. Configure your router.
3.1 Install some kernel modules and utilities - ext2tools, swap tools, fdisk.
3.2 Partition and mount your hdd. [ex: a partition for some programs and a partition for our stuff, like 400gb of anime :)] ( some knowledge of unix required - mount, swaputils, fdisk, mkdir, chmod)
3.3 (Optional) make a swap partition/file on your hdd and mount it.
3.4 Install some ftp server. Configure it, make an upload folder and a download one.
3.5 Install samba. Configure it, make an upload and a download folder.
3.6 Install ctorrent-enhanced and curl.
3.7 Goto openwrt/x-wrt forum and get a BT download manager. Configure it. (some knowledge of unix [touch, vi/nano, chmod, cron] required.)
4. upload some torrent files to your `router`.
5. enjoy.
Mats: a router: 70 euro, an usb hdd - 500gb - 90 euro, 30min-4hours of work - 0 euro, required programs - 2 euro cents.
Now you have a quite file sharing/torrent/file downloading, working 24/7 device for as little as 160.02 euro. - dbr_onix, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The biggest problem I have with TorrentFlux is that it uses transmission, or a python Bittorrent script, both of which seem hated by a lot of Torrent-trackers. And, if I remember right, neither had DHT support which is even more annoying.
Infact, I just checked - There is a version of TorrentFlux called "b4rt", which according to their website : "Web-Frontend for various Transfer-Clients. 1.0-beta supports BitTornado, Transmission, BitTorrent (mainline), Azureus, nzbperl and wget. "
I may have to have another look at TorrentFlux.. - xike, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Wow, it shows you how to use an external hard drive? Silly me, I thought choosing the external drive as the download location in the preferences was good enough.
- siggyfawn, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Exactly. It's a dumb idea to use a spare computer just for BT.
And he should have talked about hardware.
A spare computer should be used as a firewall, backup server, BT, media center. At the least. With a nice 750gb drive maybe. - muszek, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Santa told me it does.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6whats wrong with you idiots? Prctically every torrent site outer is plastered with useNeXt ads. the cats out of the bag long time ago. just dont share your newgroups but talking about Usenet is fine. Stop acting like the idiots from fight club.
- thegoodsteer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Pretty cool
- digix, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I've used torrentflux for quite a while, and it is has been the best bittorrent client+frontend that I've found until you mentioned torrentflux-b4rt. Just having the usenet integration is reason enough to switch.
- daphreak, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I tried out torrentflux do to your suggestion here, it is AMAZING. Thanks a ton!
- sonicdevo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Azureus is a total memory hog, and I didn't find Torrentflux to my liking.
Here's my setup, if you have enough RAM (512 or more would definitely be ok)
1) Ubuntu Desktop 6.10 i386 (used this version because 7.? doesn't like my mdadm RAID configuration)
2) Add universe and multiverse repositories
3) sudo apt-get install openssh-server
4) sudo apt-get install proftpd (only use over LAN or Hamachi VPN, because ftp password isn't encrypted)
5) sudo apt-get install samba
6) Download and install the newest Webmin (setup your ftp daemon as standalone and samba shares as desired)
7) Download and install the deb packages for NoMachine's NX; install client, then node, then server (MUCH faster VNC replacement)
8) Download and install Hamachi, with autostart script (hamachi forums tutorial)
9) Install WINE and use it to run the standalone version of uTorrent (many tutorials on ubuntuforums.com), setup the webui.zip under the right folder (search uTorrent forums)
So, you've got a headless server with SMB, FTP, Bit Torrent, Remode GDM, Hamachi, a Webui, etc. .... it's awesome. - saftaplan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I thought MLDonkey would be ideal for this kind of stuff, since it has a frontend and a backend, and can download whatever you like (gnutella(2), bittorrent, eDonkey, Kademlia, FastTrack, ...). It's much easier to install because it's in the repositories so you just have to apt-get install mldonkey on the backend, and install a frontend like Sancho (apt-get install sacho).
- DrSpud, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I actually made a setup just like this several months ago - I just used Kubuntu instead, and didn't bother with Hamachi. It works great on the 500Mhz PC I pulled out of a dumpster :)
Hashing just takes a long time, though. It's really the perfect solution for the dual-booter. I can switch back to XP for some gaming, or just turn it off entirely to save power, and never worry about my downloads or uploading to maintain my ratio. I just wish it wouldn't randomly quit every few weeks or so.
Torrentflux doesn't have any kind of global upload speed control, so it's hard to run 10+ torrents without drastically limiting each or clogging your pipes. I'm sure there are other good headless clients out there, but I have to say I like Azureus. - stewacide, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Deluge is a lighter and nicer BT client under Gnome. No web interface yet however.
Not to knock on Azureus tho: the ultimate BT client, but HEAVY. - reyalp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I tried that avenue and I bricked the routers every time. Those things don't like heavy traffic.
- felderado, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2torrentflux-b4rt is better than regular torrentflux.
and yes, it rocks. It's way better than this kind of setup. - mathie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And if you want a simpler setup, you could run BitTorrent (the original client) and setup a secure HTTP to download to another machine.
The following command will continuously scan the current directory for torrent files and adding them. When something is done, you can move the torrent file and its newly-downloaded files to another folder, it will automatically be removed from sharing. Check out other parameters you can do with launchmany-console
nohup launchmany-console –saveas_style 1 –max_upload_rate 600 –display_interval 5 . > torrent.log & - Vodka23, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Paying for torrents goes against the whole idea of torrents.
- dbr_onix, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Gah, you don't need RAID to have lots of harddrives - Really, most people would be better of with a single internal drive (or two), and the rest as external - Downloading files doesn't need super fast harddrives, or any kind of redundancy (I can somewhat understand it for a main system drive, but even still you'd get more "mileage" out of the drive by using on drive as the system one, and say, weekly backups onto another. That way your not constantly writing to two drives, and if you accidentally delete a file you can recovery it from the backup drive, rather than have it deleted instantly of both drives..)
I never understood using RAID5 for downloads and such - You get as much space with separate drives, and if one dies, the others are uneffected. If you have important stuff (Like photos, which can't be re-downloaded) on one drive, you can mirror those files between all the drives. That way your not making redundant on-the-fly-backups of stuff you can easily download again, or that your not going to watch again
That's not to say I don't understand the need for RAID - for important servers where you don't want any down time or it costs you lots of money, then sure, RAID-mirroring makes perfect sense since you can hot-swap the dead drive with a new one, or for capturing 1080i/p HD video, RAID0 is almost mandatory (For most consumer HD cameras, which are normally 720P, regular drives manage fine), but for 90% of people, just shoving the drives in USB or Firewire enclosures would be the best method. - doctapeppa, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Azureus on gnome is way too resource intensive for an "El Cheapo" headless box. I prefer the rtorrent + screen combo, myself; but, if you must have a gui, then running wine + utorrent on, say, XFCE4 or fluxbox via VNC is much better choice.
- Uranium118, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Ok, that isn't a problem for me because my computer is always on. But I guess people turn off their computers :p
- Azimuth1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4My mum threw out our old computer a few days ago, that would've been perfect for this. :(
- gsmolders, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2torrentflux is a bit fluky in my experience, plus rtorrent is really light on resources.
- yabos, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4I've tried using the Azereus RSS plugins but they are too stupid to remember what they've downloaded. If you have to restart Azereus for some reason the dumb thing tries to download everything you already have. It's especially annoying if you don't keep all the video you download after you watch it, then you're just wasting bandwidth.
- Felshadow, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2My router splits my connections evenly (nobody can go into each others alloted bandwidth) , so having separate BT box would mean no lag for gaming on my normal computer, which is another good reason :P
- thesquirrelwood, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2azureus? why?
btdownloadheadless ftw - n8f8, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I used a stripped down cheapo integrated system (Aopen XCCube, Celeron D, 256MB Ram, 250GB HD). Tweaked XP to turn off all the crap and installed videolan and ffDShow. I use the built in XP software keyboard and only a mouse. I run this through a OpenWRT/X-WRT router with QOS giving bitttorrent low priority. Over a year running brilliantly driving a 42" Plasma TV.
- xile, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You must be the only digger to comment so far who pays their own power bill. There's no reason to pay to power and old slow PC when you can get a single-board PC (router, etc) with about the same specs.
- neeyo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I use something extremely close. It's an old Celeron 400 box with 192 megs of ram and a single 8 gig hard drive running Gentoo. Since I use rtorrent I can just drop the torrent file in the shared directory and the server will automatically start the download. I can ssh into the box to check on the progress at any time. It's super simple and super light-weight.
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