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- shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30i read your comment 4 times, i still have no clue what the hell your trying to say...
- neko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Finally, the one office app I actually need.
- futaris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Wine has been running this for a while...
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922 - Waterrat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15 This is going to make some folks do a serious happy dance.
- HatchedEggs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I'm glad they are sharing the crack with the linux world too. Now their productivity can drop down to where us Windows users are.
- isolationism, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13He's talking about the game being as addictive as the drug, not a piece of software designed to defeat copy protection.
- cohortq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I believe he was referring to WoW. THE #1 office app for all geeks!
- drag, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Nothing. Creative now sucks. That why there is no drivers for it. They think their hardware acceleration for 3d gaming is this huge intellectual property secret and they are paranoid about people figuring out how to use it so they are developing Linux drivers off in a secret lab somewere. To bad nobody gives a *****. You can can get better sounding cards for 1/8 the price.
That's the price you pay for buying creative nowadays, I suppose.
As for WoW and HL2 games.. HL2 stuff has worked for ages now with Cedega and WoW you can get working via just plain Wine with some patches for Directx 9 support.
Use Crossover Office if you want to use Microsoft Office 2003, XP, 2000 or 97 in Linux.
Use Wine for Photoshop CS, CS2 or World of Warcraft in Linux. (with a bit of hacking it's possible, but it doesn't cost any)
Use Cedega if you want to play Windows games in Linux.
Also these things are beginning to support OS X. - Clbck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10This does make it tempting to switch to Linux...
- CLucas916, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@miznig:
What does Crossover have to do with linux drivers for Creative's X-Fi sound card? - deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7http://www.codeweavers.com/beta/cxlinux/
When you buy CrossOver you're getting a "moving target" not any particular version. I think their web site is very bad at explaining that so I don't blame you for being confused.
Also there's a free 60 day trial. From the website:
If you're not interested in experimental software, you should skip this and wait for notice of the production release.
However, if you are interested in helping us to test CrossOver, we would very much like your feedback.
Please report your experience with CrossOver, good or bad, in our beta reporting area. Feel free to discuss anything else in our Forums. - trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I don't know about photoshop, ( I believe it is supported by crossover office ) but if you want flash 9 just install WINE, download the Firefox exe like you would with Windows, go to a site that requires flash, click the little "click here to download the required plugin" button and let Firefox download and install flash.
That is only one step more than is required with Windows. - stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Just one extra thing to note: it will run pretty slowly, especially at starting applications, when running from the CD. Most people know or understand this, but I've seen enough people who thought it was the OS, so better mention it right away. Live CDs are awesome for trying something out, but only if there's an understanding that CDs are incredibly slow compared to harddrives.
- kopaka649, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Yeah, Cedega has been able to do all of this for quite a while now.
- Clbck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Thanks for the help getting started. Seriously, I don't think I've ever seen a post this helpful.
If the community is all that nice, I may have to start visting ubuntu forums, etc. :) - stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@gvibe06
Not really correct on any account.
Yes, Crossover *is* Wine, but not "heavily patched and wrapped in scripts". It's rather an older, stabilized and quality controlled version of what you can get at WineHQ. They take a snapshot and makes sure it can run anything they support, and then they add a proprietary GUI and some other extras so it's easier to use. Codeweavers also employ some of the core team and write much of the code that goes into Wine, as everything except the GUI is submitted back. So, what you pay for is ease of use, a GUI, some guarantees - and most importantly for me, the further development of Wine itself.
And appdb is *very* much for end users, that's not a page for developers, it's a page for end users telling them how well it worked for others and what workarounds were employed, if any. It's an excellent place to go looking before buying or downloading applications and games. The developers use the Bugzilla. - inactive, on 10/19/2007, -0/+6Well, web developers tests how pages looks on IE.
- kanago, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Cedega/CrossOver is free if you compile it yourself.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4In Chile too
- gvibe06, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7CrossOver Office *IS* wine .. just patched heavily and wrapped in scripts to make it run more stable than just vanilla wine. And that link you provided is for developers not really for users. Its just a project page that tell how to get wine to run WoW - but you still need to be somewhat fluent in coding to understand what it takes to write and apply patches.
- Moojack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4He's not talking about a software crack...he's comparing WoW to the drug crack.
- shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6im going to try to translate this.:
I play runescape in my parents basment. I'm cheap. I think that free == open source. Software made after 1999 is better then opensouce. Opensouce lacks functionality and crashes twice an hour. I use my grandma's computer. - BT-Wang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5although there are alternatives available, the simple fact remains that adobe could increase desktop and professional linux use drastically if they decided to support it.
- fatsobob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You are missing the point. A limited 60 day trial means you need to pay for it. By IT I mean a full version. Also, your link is broken.
- sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3While this is true to some extent, one should know that the CVS version of cedega is way outdated and is also missing many of the proptietary things in cedega. These things make the paid version of cedega so much better.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3With Crossover its possible to run Windows Flash 9 from within a Linux Firefox I believe which is a cool trick.
The charge of Wine is getting to breaking point. This sort of thing sees 20% of apps work with the first 80% of work and 80% of apps work with the last 20% of work (the pareto principle). We are well into the last section and incompatibilities are falling. Yes I know that Vista will provide a whole new set of problems but it will be less problematic than going from 0 like has been done in the past and at least companies like Google are providing Wine patches now. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's actually a myth that Linux users are all stuck-up elitists who tell you to "RTFM". BTW:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/
THE new user help center for all things FOSS. - laxdragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, most of us know that Transgaming has had Cedega with WoW support for quite a while now. The thing you need to know is, this is the first version of Wine where your purchase dollars all actually go back into the open source version. CodeWeavers contributes back to the Wine project while Transgaming does not.
Also, CodeWeavers has done a lot of work to make sure you can install WoW right from the CD's patch and play all from an easy to use icon. It even creates a WoW icon on your desktop after installation. Simple, and easy. - ioral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2From the website:
"you can buy CrossOver Standard version 5.0.3 today and receive an extra three months of support and a free upgrade to CrossOver 6.0 when it is released. "
@sabelsen, your link had an extra comma. the corrected one is http://www.codeweavers.com/beta/cxlinux/download/ - GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Cedega uses vanilla Wine for most of its D3D stuff these days. Really the most interesting work from Cedega is in terms of copy protection fixes. Very soon even that will be irrelevant. More and more of the Cedega source code is LGPL'd stuff they've lifted directly from the Wine project (this is different to the early forking). When the code bases get close enough to be almost exact copies then you may as well drop Cedega permenantly at that point.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Drag im a noob in linux but you have convinced me to no longer use creative *****. Thanks
- barbobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/deadlyh/linuxcantplaygames.png
Yes that's WoW and CoV at the same time on my nvidia 6800GT with dual monitors on debian. - avatarpalin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Oh that comment has sizzle... hehehe
Imagine if you could have an offsite meeting in Molten Core - justice7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3if linux could run all windows games 100%, i'd never need windows....
until that day.... i've got a dual boot - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@CLucas916
how do you game if you don't even have sound - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You're a Visual Basic programmer? That's OK, Windows can keep you...
- PRlME, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now every one with Linux will be installing there huge Memory hogin Win32 programs -=x
I have been running alot of my games on Wine, I'm guessing Crossover more user friendly.
But Wine is free -=) - fatsobob, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6This is beta software, but on their website it asks you to buy it. I don't think it is right to pay for beta software.
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think there is a project to create a VB6 implementation in Linux but I'm not sure of the details or how far in it is.
- DuoPros, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Really sorry for the reply abuse, but is anyone else having problems with digg lately? Sometimes a page will load, but it will be only ads and the top bar, without any content at all, and it will say page loaded! Wtf?
- idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You could play them with Cedega shortly after their release. This isn't really news...
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Goodbye Windows, hello Linux.
- theWrkncacnter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The title should be "Bigger better CrossOver adds Counterstrike to Linux, with support for other 'stream-based' games such as World of Warcraft."
Counterstrike is Way Better than WoW - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I might consider linux now, that was my biggest complaint.
- raindog469, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I still maintain my transgaming subscription, but I'm not sure why.... the games I wanted to play under Linux were old when I subscribed in like 2002, not a single one worked (but I kept my subscription to support them) and now the only Windows games I care about are casual gaming type things that I download.... popcap games, Hamsterball, things like that.
And when it comes to those games, I've had the best luck with plain ol' Wine, followed by Crossover Office, with Cedega in dead last. - raindog469, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1gmorgan, you can get flash 9 working with plain old wine, no crossover needed.... google for "ies4linux" to get a pretty simple installer for both IE and Flash.
I've bought Crossover Office Pro, but when all I need is IE (for website compatibility testing), that's what I do. - uownedge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was just thinking that same thing earlier today. I've been wanting to give Linux another chance on my gaming rig at home. Then I see that the new Edgy beta is out...then I see this. I'm stoked to the max :) Will be giving it a whirl sometime this weekend.
By the sounds of it, this is the same Crossover project recently brought to OS X, no? From what I'd read, support for HL2 is outstanding (I'm a CS:S junkie, and yes, I also play WoW. Did someone say business luncheon? I'm there!). - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Even if your comment wasn't based on garbage as per useful software*, Flash and Photoshop have both been working through crossover office for about 4 years (I've had various photoshop versions running on vanilla wine for about that long).
PS: there is the most incredibly huge amount of useful software available for linux, and windows can run approximately 0% of linux binaries - do the maths. - Suroot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does anyone know of support for playing Final Fantasy XI (including that damned playonline) for FC? The reason I ask is that WoW and Half-Life 2 now work with this new version of CrossOver, but I haven't heard anything about FFXI.
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