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- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26Beyond that, there are people (myself, for example) who are not afraid of command line, but who are still unfamiliar with Linux command line. So when I read a command, I want to know WHY it works and WHAT it's doing - not just type something in blindly because I'm told to.
If that's all I'm going to do, I might as well be using a GUI. The whole point of CLI is to have better control and understanding of the system, but with no explanation, it's just a GUI consisting of text that you have to type in to a dialog box. - motang, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25@CharlesDarwin Whats wrong with being a noob, everyone is at something at some point!
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17very slowly... until it crashes...
- chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16While I believe it is best for a new user to Linux to learn a bit about their new OS, if a new user to Ubuntu wanted to get things set up quickly and easily, there is always these two tools.
Automatix: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177646
Automatix is the more feature-rich of these two tools. It has received some criticism due to the way it installs software. However, on a clean 6.06.1, I have seen it work flawlessly several times.
Automatix is the quickest and easiest way to a full-featured, customized and "everything just works" Linux desktop experience.
EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
Not quite as feature-packed as Automatix, EasyUbuntu plays by the rules and is less likely to cause any problems. EasyUbuntu, like Automatix, can install codecs, graphics drivers and many other time consuming tasks quickly and easily. - gh02t, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19@CharlesDarwin
fscking jerk - bigtrouble77, on 10/12/2007, -11/+23Honestly lubos, if you're not capable of using cut-and-paste you have no business using a computer.
- glafira, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12This is a really good guide, an all in one guide I would call it.
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is a really good guide, helped me to get read/write access to my ntfs windows drive.
- brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8What makes the mouse so much more user friendly than a keyboard?
Most people don't want to click through 20 dialogs to get anything done. - anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@CharlesDarwin:
You're the reason why so many people avoid Linux, so they won't have to deal with elitist pricks like you when they ask questions and seek help. You're a blemish to the opensource movement and set it back rather than bringing it forward. Ubuntu has gained the momentum it has because in general the Ubuntu community is friendly towards new users and tries hard to help them adapt. Simply picking on new users for not knowing overnight what took you years to figure out speaks volumes about what kind of person you are: An *****.
This is far from the first time this guide has popped up on digg, but it's always good to keep it visible for new users. Trying Linux should be fun and information pertinent to the switch should be easy to find and understand. - Jon855, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I thought u can't write to NTFS from *nix... I guess I've learned something new. Now I'm gonna digg this article for giving me access to my anime folder ;)
- jpyun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5FFS whiteguysamurai, XGL is ALPHA SOFTWARE. That means, for the slow and dense out there, IT ISN'T EVEN IN BETA YET. I think that saying it lacks maturity is dead ***** obvious. Don't talk about ***** you don't know about.
- eug2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm really surprised this many of you never heard of ubuntuguide
- wubrgamer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9@bigtrouble:
don't knock him, his perspective is just as valid as anyone else's
AND his perspective is what most people think of as installing software on windows
(something i might add, people will pay tech dudes in compusa to do way too much money for, i.e. installing anti-virus stuff)
most people want a simple gui, and even more people are scared ***** of the CLI, which should be alright, geez - grendelwraith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am using the ntfs-3g driver and it rocks pretty hard.
You can read and write just fine to any ntfs drive.
Of course YMMV but it has worked for me. - AaronMT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Good article, which they had a really easy XGL install guide for ATI though.
- nandorocker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Geeks are control freaks, we like to know every single command that's being executed to be able to pinpoint what went wrong, if something does go wrong.
That's all fair, except some people don't want to know that much about their system, and that should be respected. People who have jobs completely unrelated with system tasks, why should they have to know how to tar a wget? (/joke)
I'm not a Mac snob, but I believe they had it down from the beginning: graphical interfaces are more intuitive and make it easy for anyone to get anything done.
Ubuntu is a great leap from the other Linux interfaces, but there's no way Linux will become a standard on desktops if you have to constantly deal with what most people see as messy pile of robot-talk. So you have a point. - exsst, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Well easyubuntu is good for that.. and if anyones a little inpatient, they can use this guide to install anything else that easyubuntu/automatix doesn't offer.
No problem. - bruenig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Ask adobe to write a better port. If they won't open source it to allow competent members of the community fix it and continue writing poor flash ports, there is nothing linux can do about that.
- exsst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That's only because of propriaty drivers..
If all the major software companies wrote their software to linux, it would be far easier than windows. - kahrn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4While I can't answer all of those questions, I can tell you that windows installer wouldn't do any of those either.
Also if you are using partition magic you'll need to reboot into WINDOWS for the process to finish. Then you'd need to reboot again into the ubuntu CD. - exsst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It will have to pretty soon, because linux adoption currently is shooting up..
I mean, it is understandable when we have operating systems such as ubuntu, which is just as good as (if not) better than OSX.. and we all know that windows users do like the idea of having OSX run on their machine... They can, but the compatibility is not so good.
Ubuntu just adds a way out from windows if the users are fed up with their computer. - tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ubuntu came out in 2004.
- MrTea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'd like to know where I can get a flash plug-in that syncs audio with video.
- fiver22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think this is the section he/she meant: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_set_the_Compose_key_to_type_special_characters
- brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Except that only an idiot Linux user would want to use his computer daily as the root user. Most of that nonsense is left to Windows users. :)
- YoThisBAlec, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Except for the fact that your argument is flawed. The Linux counterpart to Explorer or Aero would be Gnome or KDE. "Getting XGL to work" would be as if you're adding Aero to work on Windows XP instead of the usual Explorer shell.
So thus, yes, Gnome/KDE "Just works" as Explorer is meant to do. XGL and Compiz are eye candy that you need to add to your system. - RastaMahata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Actually, ubuntuguide.org was the first guide ever. In the beggining it wasnt a wiki though (it was abandoned for a short period of time, and then it was changed to a wiki, and now here you go).
So all you really need is ubuntuguide.org for quick fixes, ubuntuforums.org to discuss and more guides ( doc.gwos.org keeps all the guides tidy), and wiki.ubuntu.com for extra stuff you cant find anywhere. And of course, google.com for everything else.
Good luck. - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Imagine, typing a command in...THE HORROR!!!
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4this is a dupe, but i digg anyways cux it's a bitchin' guide for the noob's. a completely computer illiterate friend of mine used it to set up ubuntu on his box. i couldn't believe he didn't need help!
it truly is a great guide. - 8-bit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ubuntu makes me so mad. But it makes me less mad than any other distro out there. One day we'll be able to drop nasty M$, but not yet. Great guide btw, I've been using it for quite some time. To bad i'm still no closer to using ati drivers or setting up my WLan card in my notebook. Maybe next year.
- fatas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is so old why is it being dugg again.
- henkk78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"This guide has everything you need. Things like mapping the windows key to something useful"
Where's the part about mapping my windows key to something useful??? - simonbp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No offense, but you really have no business installing XGL/Compiz unless you know what you are doing. They are still very much in beta. Compiz is only at version .13 right now for crying out loud. I mean, you can try, but the reason it's beta is because it doesn't work reliably yet and hasn't been made easy to install.
Although you might look at the Automatix bleeder. It allows you to install 3D video card support and XGL/Compiz with almost frightening ease. - progpen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Now why does it seem that with Ubuntu guides, the Unofficial ones are the best? I've been using the X-K-Ubuntus since 4.x and in my own opinion, the unofficial guides have run circles around the official ones. At the very least I would think the people writing the official guides would incorporate the unofficial guides into their own, but they have not even done that.
I haven't really noticed, but with most other distros I primarily use the official guides. - doolittle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@glafira
I agree, I have always said it should be the default firefox home page when you install ubuntu - would save a lot of keystrokes on a fresh install =)
PS - thought it would be refreshing to see a comment in this thread that does not bash charlesdarwin - xorian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's a really nice, detailed guide. Bookmarked the page. I hope they keep the guide up to date, and expand it even more.
- tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The thing is, with the CLI and all, Linux is stiving to be 2 things, I think. One is that we're all for free (ok, Free/Libre) software and open source. For this we need a large audience so that big companies (ATI? Nvidia?) will release their proprietary source. However, we're also Unix geeks who HATE install wizards and dialog boxes and like the CLI, because it's quicker, easier, and more reliable. We see GUI's as useful in some respects but not a neccesity. However, most toher people see GUI's as an integral part of their computer. The majority of computer users think Windows IS their computer (Okay, maybe they've heard of Macs). And I'm not knocking Windows users of Digg, either. I still use Windows, but I also use Ubuntu. And thus there is a dilemna. Gloss over the commandline, or keep from growing beyond a certain point. And I realize this doesn't pertain to the article, but I feel it's important.
- Clemenceau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've used this guide for a little over a week now, and while it's not %100 what I want in a Linux how-to (i.e. what Nougat said, I'd like to know WHY, not just WHAT), it's done good things for me so far.
- ijeff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually the Gnome and KDE equivalent of Explorer would be Nautilus and Konqueror.. GNOME and KDE are just what we call the suite as a whole.
- kahrn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I simply wouldn't recommend a new user to using XGL. It's software that's in testing, and some might say it's pretty stable. But for the new user it's just too much trouble. Even if it does setup first time, that doesn't mean that it'll stay like that and that you'll be able to maintain it.
- linuxeventually, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@bigtrouble777
linux noobs don't know that you can copy and paste by highlighting/selecting the text to copy and middle-clicking to paste in terminal. I was five hours into a gentoo install when this was mentioned to me. Windows are soo used to "CTRL+c" & "CTRL+v" they don't bother to think it might be different in another OS; they figure it "just doesn't work" in linux. - Billistic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1no results for xgl..
- dtfinch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I feel like I can't get much done in Windows without writing lots of little scripts and using the command line. Everyone uses their systems a little differently I guess. Sometimes using the command line is a shortcut. All that apt-get stuff and editing the sources.list can be done graphically in synaptic. Almost every command line action has a graphical, albeit time consuming alternative.
- barbobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Agreed. I have followed the installation instructions to the letter (on ubuntu.com) and was greeted with a hosed, unfixable installation"
How did you mess up your entire installation when you were only messing with X settings? - mykeyspace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a good guide, no doubt about it. I've recommended it numerous times to noobs and i use it myself sometimes too. Good for getting things done quickly, for reference or for finding some good software.
The only thing i would like to see is a little more explanation next to commands. So that noobs actually learn to use gnu/linux instead of just pasting command into their terminal... Instead of giving them fish every day, the community should teach the noobs to catch fish, so they can on their turn help new noobs themselves. Circle closed. Or something like that ;)
Off course, one could argue that their are other resources for that, and their right. I'm just speculating on how the guide could be better... - dosequis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've been using this guide for a month or so now, good to see it on digg.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is not just a guide, its a Bible of ubuntu, its my frist point of reference after installing ubuntu on any box, i have been using it for a long time now, well over a year i think? has all you could ever need to know
- kanavulator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Glad this got dugg; I'd found this on stumbleupon a couple of weeks ago, but now it's getting much fuller and more detailed. I use Ubuntu on VMware since my lappie has far too many drivers unavailable in Linux.
The article is great for getting mp3's to play (which is definitely not a one-step process) on Ubuntu, as well as many other codecs; it's also great for getting Microsoft Core Fonts like Arial and Times New Roman...and Comic Sans! YAY!!!1
Heed my word, and don't install Xgl on Ubuntu on VMware... - 8-bit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Omg I just got my ati card working. It took me a year to figure it out. Partial thanx to this guide. It almost was right...
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