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- moondowner, on 05/30/2008, -7/+34Hope that this release will come with a stable KDE (4.X) enviroment. I also want to thank Novell and all the KDE and openSUSE developers for doing a great job, withought U guys, Linux wouldn't be in this place where it is today. :)
- Root2dir, on 05/30/2008, -5/+25I'm really looking forward to the final release, I have a feeling it will be an important milestone in desktop Linux.
Who knew penguins and lizards get along so well? - Appleboi4evr, on 05/30/2008, -4/+24can't wait!
- jonshipman, on 05/30/2008, -2/+19OpenSUSE mmmmmm
I remember traveling to Germany and seeing copies of SUSE in mediamarkt on top shelves and the copies of XP were on the bottom shelves... :p - joshr04ca, on 05/30/2008, -4/+20Very excited for this next release of openSUSE. Best Linux Distro out there!!! Keep it up openSUSE devs.
- smek2, on 05/30/2008, -3/+18Finally! Here's hoping my Linux-Distro of choice will get a quality update.
- inactive, on 05/30/2008, -6/+20Probably the most important distro currently. I love me some OpensSuSE, no one else does KDE right (Arch is close though).
- InuX, on 05/30/2008, -0/+14:D openSUSE how I love thee. Hopefully my windows partition doesn't find out about us.
- wTheOnew, on 05/30/2008, -4/+15My brain is going into open source overload lately.
- inactive, on 05/30/2008, -0/+10Troll.
SuSe is a good Linux distro. - peterjmag, on 05/30/2008, -0/+9*blink* Uh... what?
- atroph, on 05/30/2008, -0/+8su za
openSUSE, (pronounced /ˌoʊpɛnˈsuːzə/)
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_SUSE
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http://suseroot.com/about-suse-linux/how-do-you-pr ...
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http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showto ...
Call it what feels right to you I guess. - earlycj5, on 05/30/2008, -0/+8What?
Oh, wait, sorry, you mean the taskbar at the bottom with the start menu on the left? Coulda sworn Vista had that too. - clesch, on 05/30/2008, -1/+9fail
- inactive, on 05/30/2008, -0/+7A lot of the gnome and KDE improvement comes straight from the OpenSuSE developers, more so than with Ubuntu. Ubuntu is nothing more than a bleeding edge distro with decent hardware support and easy installation. SuSE continues to get better and better and is always rock solid stable at the time of release. All of the "BLAH MICROSOFT! NOVELL!" yammerings are absolutely retarded. SuSE is the most important distro because they give back to Linux more than any distro I can think of...Fedora may be close though.
Not to mention how amazing OpenSuSE looks straight out of the box.
Typed on my Ubuntu machine, if you're wondering. - inactive, on 05/30/2008, -0/+6KDE in OpenSuSE is a completely different beast than say, Kubuntu. It's faster, more secure, has better menus and is actually thought out, rather than just KDE slapped on top of whatever distro. Also has awesome OpenOffice support, better than any other distro.
KDE-Mod on Arch, for example, is blazing fast, extremely stable...it's also well implemented. You'd have to experience one or the other to see for youself. Give OpenSuSE 10.3 a try and you'll see exactly what I mean. - Disease, on 05/30/2008, -2/+7You need to cry more.
- amfantasy, on 05/30/2008, -1/+6The did a crap load of usability test and they found that one bar is easier for users then two, and that the first place users go is the bottom left corner of the screen for applications and the "start" button. They don't change things just to be different...
- simmin, on 05/30/2008, -0/+5Nvidia drivers still don't work without a patch...
- fani, on 05/30/2008, -3/+8Very nice and professional looking. I think this is a really good distro. Yast2 for software mgmt isn't the best, but its ok for me. zypper is a nice apt like tool.
I like this the best among all the ones I've recently tried and I've switched to it ( since 11.0 Beta 2 )
I tried Fedora Core 9, Knoppix, Kubuntu-KD4 Remix, Ubuntu HH, Sabayon - ZachSka87, on 05/30/2008, -2/+7You've made your point to clearly and with such excellent presentation and vocabulary. I'm sure the entire Digg community will lend you the full credibility your comment deserves. *applause* No, wait. An applause is too small. *STANDING OVATION*
- flashingcurser, on 05/30/2008, -2/+7Oooooh... I can't remember when I saw a real good distro flame war!
- thismortalshade, on 05/30/2008, -0/+5His link is to a review that includes features and such. I don't think he was trying to suggest this was a dupe as much as get his article dugg.
- gugin, on 05/30/2008, -0/+5ok how do you pronounce SUSe? is it suse as in ruse, or maybe as in fuse, or even like a girls name susie?? Really I'm asking here.
- mrsteveman1, on 05/30/2008, -0/+4Whats it called when you write backward sentences that make no sense?
Dyslexic? no thats not it.....
oh wait, STUPID, that's what we were looking for, stupid, thanks for playing :D - raydeen, on 05/30/2008, -2/+6Just curious as to the comment 'no one else does KDE right', how is KDE different from one distro to another?
- apokryphos, on 05/30/2008, -1/+5Stop the FUD: http://opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS
- cawpin, on 05/30/2008, -1/+5Were you just trying to show how much of a douchebag you are? You are the dupe, *****.
- fani, on 05/30/2008, -1/+5Yes, I meant Fedora 9 ( Sulfur ). Thanks for the correction. Its nice but I'm not that happy with it - few issues - doesn't remember my screen size setting, cannot resize the settings window etc. etc. But overall its nice too. yum is as fine as zypper.
Eventually, they're all behaving the same ( I guess it all came from the gentoo ports methodology of installation with dependency checks/installations )
I have SLES9 and SLES10 servers at work and its ok. After a while you get used to the sles way of doing things. Perhaps thats why I like openSuse more. Ubuntu is nice, but its too simple for me. I had my wife try it and she was happy. Can't have that now...:) Gotta one-up :)
Anyways, no need for multiple PCs. You have 2 easy solutions -
1. multi-boot via grub
or 2. (Even better) VMware
I VMware the distro's to eval them and if I like it, I burn and multi-boot. My PC already multi-boots many OSes and its quite easy/useful these days.
One problem under linux however, is lack of proper TV card support. My ATI AIW isn't supported. There is now support for my WinTV Hauppauge 1800 via the em8800 driver or something but I have yet to try it. - Phocion55, on 05/30/2008, -0/+4This has the characteristics of a "Why I Love Digg" screenshot.
Please...keep responding to your own comments. - ZachSka87, on 05/30/2008, -1/+4It's all in the title and presentation, my friend.
- SamuelHenderson, on 05/30/2008, -1/+4'Fedora Core 9'? Really? I think you mean 'Fedora 9'.
I've never personally used openSUSE, I imagine it's similar to SLED (which I have used before) though. If such is the case then I am sure it's very nice and all. I happen to like Fedora (been using it since Fedora Core 5) and Ubuntu (been using that since 5.10).
If I had more time and money I'd like to have a computer for each of the main Linux distros. - deathfix, on 05/30/2008, -0/+3I'm not sure dirty means what you think it means.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -5/+8"Probably the most important distro currently."
How so? I can maybe see a case being made for Ubuntu, but in what way is openSUSE the most important? - manutdfan2850, on 05/30/2008, -4/+7word.
- Stonekeeper, on 05/30/2008, -0/+3So can someone please clarify is this is anything to do with Novell? After the "storm" caused by their MS deal, many people said they wouldn't touch suse then others came out saying it had nothing to do with Novell as it was a community driven project. Can anyone clarify?
- inactive, on 05/30/2008, -1/+4You're trolling this thread, really hard.
Sorry you don't like SuSE.
But congrats on being the first person added to my block list! - Pasty745, on 05/30/2008, -3/+6I hate SUSE. I have installed it 4 or 5 times (using different versions) and each time it would eat itself after I installed video drivers (both ATI and Nvidia). Ubuntu on the other hand has been very nice to me.
- apokryphos, on 05/30/2008, -1/+4See http://opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS
- int19h, on 05/30/2008, -0/+2I tried Suse many years ago, but currently use Ubuntu. In what ways are Suse better than Ubuntu?
- LZeppelinJ0, on 05/30/2008, -2/+4Really enjoying this release right now, while YaST2 was the most common complaint from OpenSUSE's previous releases, this RC has really amped it up and it's become a great administrative tool. Also the auto-updater finally works in this release with the PackageKit updating system.
And overall this release just feels a lot slicker and quicker than all previous betas. I'm very excited :) Give it a shot guys! - Tarmas, on 05/31/2008, -1/+3What's your problem with OpenSuse and KDE4? Just get the installation DVD and choose your preferred environment from the installer. That's KDE4, KDE3, GNOME, XFCE, followed by a "Custom" option, if you know what you are doing.
While OpenSuse's implementation of KDE4 is not forced as a default environment, it's the most polished and stable at this point. They actualy made it usable. Try Kubuntu KDE4 remix to see what I mean.
Speaking of penguins and lizards... See how much Novell is investing in Linux right now. They sponsor both GNOME and KDE, Compiz with all the hardware support behind it, and - mainly - a huge part of the Linux kernel. Amazing applications like Banshee, F-Spot, Beagle are developed mainly by Novell employees. Compare that to the Canonical guys, who are just providing you with a Debian based distro with their branding and repositories without giving anything back to the COMMUNITY.
Regarding the Novell - Microsoft pact, it's a deal to provide interoperability between Linux and Windows. All FUD aside, I'm really glad that Novell worked on issues that were blocking Linux deployment in corporate environments, where computers with different operating systems can be easily networked, without any need of patching, upgrading, updating or hacking. Once again, try that with Ubuntu. It *won't* work out of the box.
I'm looking forward to this release. It looks like the most polished and user friendly distro today with realy great technologies incorporated into it. - int19h, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2ksoul, thanks for the reply. I agree that each distro has a unique feel. However, Ubuntu also have KDE 4, configuration tools etc. What does Suse give me that Ubuntu doesn't, except from a unique feel?
- apokryphos, on 05/30/2008, -1/+3Learn to read http://opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS and please get a clue.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Oh okay. I wasn't sure if you were getting at something along those lines or were just saying it was your favorite distro in an exaggerated way. I'm not sure if I'd call any one distro the most important, but openSUSE is certainly important (all those GNOME and KDE improvements you mentioned, as well as the increased interoperability with Microsoft technologies (Mono, ODF-OOXML converter, Moonlight), and all the other work the openSUSE team does).
P.S. I also disagree with the anti-Novell rants for the most part (not that we shouldn't be wary of Microsoft's "embrace, extend, and exterminate" strategy), and actually until 19:52UTC today, I owned 40 shares of Novell (I sold once it hit $7.05, since that's about the highest it's been since March). - ksoul, on 05/30/2008, -1/+3Each distro has it's own unique feel, kernel mods, and feature set
For myself it's the superb implementation of KDE 4, YAST, and Zypper. Also, Opensuse 11 looks amazing and feels very polished, even at this stage. KDE 4 has a few bugs yet, but KDE 3.9 is amazing.
Looks are a feature too and Opensuse 11 looks beautiful on all fronts. - rofflebuster, on 05/30/2008, -0/+2Has anyone been able to install fglrx on this? I tried the beta and the "one-click install" was only for 10.3.
- nickert0n, on 05/30/2008, -1/+3But its a good feeling ;-)
- natenovs, on 06/01/2008, -0/+2cool you asked two people. i think the UI team at novell might have done a slightly broader usability test.
- madrona, on 05/30/2008, -0/+2Just think John Philips Sousa.
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