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- Dankoozy, on 03/03/2009, -4/+51android will not make "linux" mainstream. Several popular phones already have linux on it and you wouldn't tell from just looking at them.
Android is just a pushing platform for Google's online web 2.0 services that just happens to be built on the Linux kernel. they will still be restricted with whatever the mobile phone operator or google see fit. These are tied-down consumerised gimmicks, a bit like the iphone. not phones running a fully customisable and hackable linux distro. - shady3d, on 03/03/2009, -4/+28Android is another platform, it just uses Linux kernel to manage hardware and take advantage from what the kernel achieved and build on it, i am not attacking Google, i love Google, but it will not help Linux in a way or another, but it will help open-source idea.
- jcsoc, on 03/03/2009, -15/+29"Google to squash Microsoft's OS dominance in two to three years"
Hahahahaha, good one - Hollow5, on 03/03/2009, -10/+17Linux is not going to take over windows, stop making up titles.
- soBoredinNJ, on 03/03/2009, -2/+8I agree with you.
- th3heretic, on 03/03/2009, -2/+7As a G1 owner, Android is great, but even with the rise of netbooks, I HIGHLY doubt Linux will take off and "squash Microsoft's OS dominance".
- flossdaily, on 03/04/2009, -0/+5You sound like a parody of the entire Republican party.
- someguy92, on 03/04/2009, -0/+5I think by "C/C++ support", you meant support for running native code as a regular user. The whole point behind this was to prevent applications from doing malicious things. Most other mobile platforms also take similar precautions to keep the devices secure.
- SteveMax, on 03/04/2009, -0/+5You can't tell me what to do!
- inactive, on 03/04/2009, -0/+4Do you seriously have something wrong with your head?
http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/64bit.html - clickmyface, on 03/03/2009, -1/+5Ultra mobile devices won't replace the desktop in any significant way in the foreseeable future. Cellphones and even netbooks are companion pieces just like audiobooks are to print books - there is a market, but the bigger notebook and desktop are still going to lead.
You love Google, they give you free stuff - and thatss totally great - but they are best at writing algorithms that give them the most ad revenue, that's about it. In terms of platform development, they have not proven themselves very capable. - Wonderama, on 03/04/2009, -0/+4But it will go far to change the average consumer's perception and show that non-Windows/non-Microsoft platforms are viable and acceptable alternatives.
- PsychoBrat, on 03/04/2009, -1/+5I find myself agreeing with your agreement of his agreement.
- Technopundit, on 03/04/2009, -2/+5Yah, except Android is turning out to be a flop.
- dent42, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3Ubuntu is not dead.
- rimantas, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3OS X (10.5) _is_ UNIX
- ohplease, on 03/03/2009, -3/+6
You don't know what you're talking about.
Microsoft owns the corporate desktop, nobody is even close. Nobody is even trying to compete. - ptFoe, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3I agree you have nothing intelligent to add to the discussion.
- holotone, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3I agree; You finding yourself agreeing with his agreement of the other guys agreement is very agreeable indeed.
- PsychoBrat, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3I'm putting my money on Steam triggering the first major surge, and large software suites such as Adobe CS being in the second major surge which would follow soon after.
Steam and many of the games it delivers (that don't already run natively on Linux) are already being ported. Now, consider that some Steam games -already- run marginally faster through Wine than natively on Windows. Running its games natively on Linux, Valve and its partners will have more room to tweak (optimise!) the underlying platform, so it could easily quite quickly become the platform recommended for getting the best performance out of their games.
Valve could also start including a customised lightweight linux distro on all their install CDs to allow a console-style "boot and play off disc" option, while the game installs to Windows and/or operating systems available in the background. They could extend this to provide a customised installable Steam-centric distro, bundled with game chat tools and so on.
Steam has a -massive- user base, and publishes many major games. Considering that the most common Linux adoption blocker cited by tech-savy home users is that there are not enough popular games available, I think the Linux Steam release will make a huge difference. - tdmeth, on 03/03/2009, -4/+7This will not squash Microsoft's OS dominance. Apple with OS X, IBM with OS/2, and Linux in all its varieties have been trying to do this for years. They may take some of the market share, but they will not overtake it. Not by a long shot. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux and have been using it for years. But despite all the trash talk on the forums, Microsoft does make a good product and will maintain their lead for quite some time.
- sanskrtam, on 03/04/2009, -0/+3Linux management is sort of like Free/Open/Net/DragonflyBSD communities: no 100% centralized management.
But, hey, I do agree that Haiku (or NewOS) will be cool in the near future. I just hope all the source codes of BeOS will be released under a free license. - ptFoe, on 03/04/2009, -3/+6he didn't say "desktop"
- Culyt, on 03/04/2009, -0/+2I don't see any reason why you couldn't install a C compiler on it.
I also don't see any point...
☢ - tnoy, on 03/04/2009, -0/+2Apple already did that.
The only way that Android is going to get people to use Linux, is if it is marketed to do so. - Gerz1219, on 03/04/2009, -0/+2To add to this point, people think of a netbook as being closer to a smartphone or Blackberry than a personal computer. They're not going to see the (rather unsightly) Android interface and think "if only I could get this on my desktop at home".
Vista and Windows 7 are pretty. The Android interface is not. It's never a good sign when an OS's environment looks dated when it's first shipped. Android may make substantial inroads in the netbook market because it's cheap and works well with a wide variety of hardware, and I'm sure Microsoft wishes there was a way for them to get into the netbook market they are uniquely unsuited to support, but this hardly spells the end of Microsoft's OS dominance. - UKsHaDoW, on 03/04/2009, -0/+2Look up redhat. You know that huge company with it's whole buiness ideas based around selling linux.
- MattBD, on 03/04/2009, -0/+1Might be interesting to see if that proves an advantage for OpenSolaris, since that's the official OpenSolaris distro, and it's actually pretty damn good - it looks good, it's got the backing of Sun behind it and it has a strong Unix heritage. Only thing is, it's very slowcompared to Ubuntu..
- Azathothh, on 03/04/2009, -0/+1it keeps Stallman's ego high as his dirty beard
- Thomasaka, on 03/04/2009, -1/+2Apple made UNIX mainstream? Are you seriously that retarded?
- Flooq, on 08/01/2009, -0/+1You can only view it as a flop if you expected too much from the G1. It's been a hit with a lot of manufacturers who are planning to release Android handsets in the 3-12 months, a lot of them are betting big on Android and quite a few are developing custom interfaces.
- harlowsmonkeys, on 03/04/2009, -0/+1What do phones have to do with this? You probably should have actually read the article.
- Azathothh, on 03/04/2009, -0/+1rofl
- puzzud, on 03/04/2009, -0/+1The cool thing about Linux is that its flexible enough to create a 'dumb' interface. It's proprietary software that is keeping your wife, your nephew, your grandma, and your dog from using the OS that really suits their needs.
- Azathothh, on 03/04/2009, -0/+1rofl
- DJRobX, on 03/04/2009, -2/+3My Mom has been running Linux for over half a decade ... She has a TiVo. She even has a WRT54Gv4 router. Somehow neither of those popular devices have "taken Linux mainstream" despite their Linux underpinnings. How is Android any different?
- puzzud, on 03/04/2009, -1/+2computershack. Apple is making headway by pushing markets. Microsoft is stagnating by following; which is something it's been doing for that last couple of years.
Microsoft said it was going to ditch XP a long time ago--and it hasn't. Now it's making a 'new' operating system to make up for their mistake and cater to the netbook market, which... well, is a seemingly new and pushed initially with the help of Linux.
Microsoft obviously isn't on top of their game and they are not in control of where the market is going.
As I always say, they'll atleast have the XBox to fall back on. - pijalu, on 03/04/2009, -1/+2Windows as a server - really ?!?
- puzzud, on 03/04/2009, -0/+1Very insightful; however, I don't think Valve is into the whole purchase a CD thing.
- JQP123, on 03/04/2009, -0/+1Android users don't know or care that Linux lies underneath; which is the best way to apply Linux --- out of sight and out of mind.
And this is not the only flaw in Huang's analysis. - daftman, on 03/04/2009, -2/+3No, there are crap load of stuff that uses Linux in the backend.
Tivo for example run on linux and so does TomTom.
There are more computers outside desktop and server. I guess most diggers like yourself only think of Windows in term of Desktop and Server. - Flooq, on 08/01/2009, -0/+1Android is Linux though. I agree that it's a totally different platform to the GNU/Linux desktop & server operating systems that compete with Windows but there's another way to look at this. Does Windows have to become much less significant on the desktop to become less significant overall?
Microsoft have always envisioned ubiquitous computing as the future but do they look likely to dominate that future where we use our mobiles constantly, store a lot of our data in the cloud and use connected devices in every room in our house? They have large market shares in some of the other areas but they're only dominant on the desktop. As Windows desktops become less central to the way we use computers then perhaps it's grip on the desktop will weaken too when people become more familiar with other user interfaces and care less about the applications on the Windows platform that they're currently so invested in. - IamNomad, on 03/04/2009, -1/+1i dont understand why youre getting dugg down. Dugg for valid point.
- inactive, on 03/04/2009, -1/+1Ubuntu sucks and its fanbois are sickening. I prefer GNU/Linux as a desktop OS but I'm not fanatical about it. Microsoft does, sometimes, get it right. XP x64 was a step in the right direction - it's a pity they didn't continue with it.
- sanskrtam, on 03/04/2009, -0/+0 Windows NT-based components will still be around even after Microsoft will ditch it in the near future.
It'll be like a company called eComStation manages the sort-of-already-dead OS/2. - inactive, on 03/04/2009, -2/+2Microsoft's marketing prowess is second to none. That, combined with its monopolistic practices is the reason they are still successful.
- shinelikeitdoes, on 03/04/2009, -1/+1seriously. some random fools are always spouting about how linux is poise to take over "soon"...for about 10+ years now.
buried for inaccuracy. - user78, on 03/04/2009, -0/+0I agree with you, but Linux is a open-source community!
- tnoy, on 03/04/2009, -2/+2A flop? There is only one phone on the market using Android, and a dozen more expected to come out in the next 6 months.
If you can say anything, it would be that the G1 is a flop.. but you don't know the sales numbers of that either.. other than it accounting for around 20% of T-Mobiles new contracts. - computershack, on 03/03/2009, -4/+4With Microsoft designing Windows 7 to work on netbooks, does anyone really see this happening?
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