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- getoffmybridge, on 05/05/2009, -1/+18I like that large corporations like IBM and Novell back linux. I just wish they'd spend more of their money advertising that fact, and about linux in general, to a broader audience.
- sirhomer, on 11/07/2007, -0/+16How about the "Anatomy of the Linux File System as told by LOLCATS"?
- clearzen, on 11/07/2007, -1/+15I really enjoys seeing articles like this on digg and not OMG it's a LOLZCAT PIC look here.
- RealmDown, on 11/06/2007, -0/+12You mean, ROOT.
- thomasprebble, on 11/08/2007, -0/+7I like these IBM articles.
- Smiths, on 11/07/2007, -1/+8Wow, you're just as annoying when it's a non-political thread.
- BigW, on 11/06/2007, -0/+6Then check up on LVM. It will really blow your mind.
- timster, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6No guarantees that ReiserFS won't kill your data, though.
I'm so sorry. - Vorin, on 11/07/2007, -0/+6nice, simple overview
- infiniphunk, on 11/07/2007, -0/+5yes, linux even supports NTFS.
- polyGone, on 11/06/2007, -0/+4Wouldn't the wabbit log in under woot?
- bbtrev, on 11/07/2007, -2/+6OMG, I need this bad. As a long time Network and Windows admin who is new to Linux (mainly Ubuntu desktop and server) one of the biggest roadblocks has been an understanding of the file system!
Great post. - thcobbs, on 11/06/2007, -1/+5Silly wabbit, su is not for you.
- RevEng, on 11/07/2007, -0/+3More than just an example of a good operating system, this is an example of good design. The basic properties and components of a file system have been known and defined in books for decades, so why not embrace this clearly defined interface? By sticking strictly to this model, and providing a facade to apply this interface transparently to several file systems at once, the many designers of the Linux VFS have built a solid foundation for adding file systems, even (as the article shows) ones that exist only in abstract terms. Compare this to the old 'int 13' hack that DOS needed to allow RAM disks.
- buzzedlightyear, on 11/07/2007, -0/+3Do you not watch TV? IBM has tons of linux commercials.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ibm+li ... - gregdigg, on 11/06/2007, -0/+2Smellcheckers?
- gudnbluts, on 11/07/2007, -0/+2Fair enough. I was doing this 3 years ago (working on movie CGI tools), so it's quite possible I'm out of date on it.
- OneAndOnlySnob, on 11/07/2007, -1/+3A shortcut is a symlink. I think what you mean is hard links, where you can basically create two files in your folder hierarchy that refer to the same data on disk. I also wish Windows would get it together on the whole inability to write to files that are open thing. Makes updating Windows much much trickier than it needs to be. On Linux, you can update a binary, and the old one still exists so long as the file is open.
And joe, what the hell are you talking about! There are currently TWO implementations of snapshots available in Linux. LVM implements it and so does SnapFS via FUSE. - thomasprebble, on 11/07/2007, -1/+3No fragmentation issues either (I'm not even sure if there is a Linux defrag tool). Come on Windows, you know you want it! It won't cost you anything either!
- arjie, on 11/06/2007, -0/+2Wow, I did not know that you could just do that mke2fs thing after making a file a block device. I didn't know any of those steps. Is it sad that I find this exciting? Maybe it's a remnant of the time when I was this little kid new to computers and I tried creating a folder with the name D: so that I could get more hard drive space.
- gudnbluts, on 11/06/2007, -0/+2The other nice thing about Linux is you can bypass the file system and write directly to disk if you need the speed (eg. for dealing with uncompressed cinema quality movies). We weren't able to do that under Windows.
- mscman, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2Wait, didn't you just prove how pointless it is for IBM and Novell to pay for advertisement regarding Linux? When the people who are interested (i.e. you) are skipping the commercials, how effective is it to market towards someone who doesn't even care one bit?
- epohs, on 11/06/2007, -0/+1Windows shortcuts aren't symlinks. Shortcuts only work on an application level. Unlike a true symlink, if the windows API looks at a shortcut it actually sees the .lnk file, not the file that it references.
However, NTFS does support something like a symlink, although you've got to have a seperate app to create one. Like, junction
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/File ... - init100, on 11/06/2007, -0/+1"it has things like snapshots that aren't supported by ext3"
Who cares? It is supported by the Logical Volume Manager (LVM) instead, a layer below the file system that enables filesystems to span disks, resizable volumes, copy-on-write snapshots, etc. - rogerbly, on 11/06/2007, -0/+1nice overview. It's amazing how a well-designed file system improves performance. For example, a build of the Project.net application takes 5min on Windows Vista NTFS vs. 1.5min on Linux ext2 (same hardware).
- grumpyrain, on 11/07/2007, -0/+1No, a shortcut isn't the same thing as a symlink.
NTFS from Vista onwards allows POSIX style symlinks. Prior to that, you had to do your best with junction points etc.
MSDN reference: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365680. ... - cloudyprison, on 11/08/2007, -0/+1It can access NTFS, and FAT file formats, allowing it to 'support' a broken windows install. That's 'a wide range' of Microcrap right there.
- sik0fewl, on 11/06/2007, -0/+1If what you say is true, then this should be helpful, too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_ ...
- melat0nin, on 11/07/2007, -0/+1'there'
- c0mrade, on 11/06/2007, -0/+1"Linux supports a wide range of operating systems" interesting... :)
- joe90210, on 11/06/2007, -0/+1NTFS has symlinks, this started in Vista and NTFS is a very good FS, it has things like snapshots that aren't supported by ext3
- roominator, on 11/07/2007, -0/+1don't feel too bad, this was new to me too and, might I add, quite exciting to discover.
- bmartin, on 11/07/2007, -1/+1For building software that involves lots of files, I recommend trying ReiserFS. A lot of Gentooers use it on their builds. It does a fantastic job with tiny files.
Don't ever put anything on ReiserFS that you're not willing to part with. While stable, it's not the most reliable FS, and a lot of people have lost a lot of data with it. I'd use it for compiling and not much else. - bmartin, on 11/07/2007, -2/+2Windows would never adopt something from FOSS unless it faced extinction. What surprises me is that MS hasn't created a FS yet with any of the really cool things you can do with the a POSIX FS (you know, like symlinks). There are a lot of nifty time-saving features that Linux has. Today I downloaded GNU's Windows implementation of the wget program to save new hires time on fetching files from the net.
- getoffmybridge, on 05/05/2009, -0/+0I watch plenty of tv, but I have a Tivo and do not regularly have to endure commecials.
- muppetchicken, on 11/07/2007, -0/+0I hate to admit it but I believe that the correct (mis)spelling is speling. Like apache mod_speling http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_speling.h ... .
- stonr2, on 11/07/2007, -0/+0The servers are too hot!!!!
haha, they are amusing. The skinny guy seems like a jackass though. - japetto, on 11/07/2007, -0/+0Way too complicated for the Ubuntu newbs on here, IMO. Good info, though.
- sholdowa, on 11/06/2007, -1/+0Shame that even IBM can't use smellcheckers... or is there really a virutal file system ???
- getoffmybridge, on 05/05/2009, -1/+0I would guess a majority of the public still watches commercials. A Tivo will not let you skip them by default, and the newer ones may not even include the easter egg that enables that functionality.
- douggmc, on 11/07/2007, -4/+3OMG ... if you are creaming your shorts over this ... then check out ZFS. You'll launch jizz across your office cubicle. kthxbye
- pyrates, on 11/07/2007, -2/+1Make linux worth buying, and it will take off with end users for sure. Ubuntu is getting their but politics are still getting in the way.
- douggmc, on 11/08/2007, -2/+1Oh come on ... who's digging me down?! ZFS ... Jizz ... creaming shorts ... OMG ... kthxbye ... all in one post. It's brilliant! I'm brilliant!
- getoffmybridge, on 05/05/2009, -2/+0How about cats getting TFO?
- CondoleezzaRice, on 11/07/2007, -4/+2Uh, yes we are.
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(Your potential, Our passion.) - joebaloney, on 11/07/2007, -6/+2OMG glad you enjoyed it. OMG cya.
- objectcode, on 11/06/2007, -6/+1should have just said "FIRST"
- joebaloney, on 11/07/2007, -6/+0OMG glad you enjoyed it. OMG cya.
- rayraym0fucka, on 11/07/2007, -9/+2*****
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