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- MrDolomite, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Good idea, but this doesn't count as...easy :)
Next, invoke the makemenu command, e.g.: makemenu -ntsc -dvd -align left -textcolor “#FFF” -highlightcolor “#FF0″ -selectcolor “#F00″ -font “Helvetica” “Sally Jumping” “Sally Singing” “Sally Running” -background sally.jpg -out “Main_menu” - Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16... and it's attitudes like Metabolife's that makes linux what it is today
- barneygumble, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I've been working on becoming Windows-free. I love Linux, but it's got a long way to go to be user friendly. This isn't that bad though, the commands are straight-forward.
- Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Joking or not, this is still the attitude of many linux users and programmers. Look at drag's post, why does one need to copy and paste lines of text into a terminal window to be able to use the program? Why was there not a GUI developed for it? While the linux OS itself is getting much easier to use the programs that are available for it still remain hard to install, learn, and use. I feel this is caused by both the many "flavors" of linux available, the general user's attitudes. and by the people who write the open source programs for linux. I am by no means a programmer but if you can get a program to do a complicated task such as encode a dvd, how much harder can it be to add a GUI?
Lets look at it another way. Lets say this program was developed for windows. Do you think anyone would use it if you had to type makemenu -ntsc -dvd -align left -textcolor “#FFF” -highlightcolor “#FF0″ -selectcolor “#F00″ -font “Helvetica” “Sally Jumping” “Sally Singing” “Sally Running” -background sally.jpg -out “Main_menu” in? Hell no, if the guy had forums you would have people lining up and saying "WTF, were is the GUI?" If it was posted on digg everyone would be calling it lame and unwieldy. So why is this ok for Linux? - BlindIrishman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You have spammed that link on every front page article for the past 5 hours, stop.
- a7bat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm looking into a new project called Bonfire. The UI is a lot better than most and the features are good.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bonfire/screenshot.htm - srg13, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Why was there not a GUI developed for it?"
There is a GUI for it. The author was just explaining how to use the command line tools. - natmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I like k3b. It's so cool.
- inkubux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What about manDVD, That is seriously the only DVD app I need:
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=38347&PHPSESSID=53fc06049f44495b7df894611d13b762 - jonesin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The thing to do is use Tovid for converting to mpg then use the Varsha app for turning it into an actual dvd. Varsha handles putting menus, cover pictures, and chapters in, and has a option to turn the resultant dvd into a burnable .iso so you can burn it yourself in K3B. There's also an option for it to automatically burn it to the dvd in Varsha but I prefer using k3b for that.
http://varsha.sourceforge.net/ - santaclaws, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Thanks for digging my blog.
To address the points:
1) There is a UI. I don't know how good it is (or not). The command line, honestly, is easy. (There are also other UI tools, e.g. check out qdvdauthor. Haven't found any that are not buggy tho.)
2) This is to make, i.e. author, your own DVD, not just burn an existing DVD image. - drag, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6That's not that bad. It's not like you have to memorize the command line or anything.
I use big long commands for mencoder time to time. What I do is just have a text file I keep some sample commands and then copy and paste what ones I want into a terminal, edit them to suite whatever paticular thing I want to do and that's that.
It's the same thing with this.
If I wanted to make a DVD maybe once on a blue moon then a GUI would be great. (which this thing has) But if I made lots of them I'd rather just copy and paste, edit slightly, and hit 'enter' and be done with it. Let the computer do all the work. Then scripting is easy.
With a GUI I usually would end up wading through dozens of menus or dialogs to change this or that option, especially if the application has no way to save job profiles or whatnot. This is a lot easier then a reading a man file or copying and editing a command from a website, but it gets old after a while. - jonesin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Like I already said up above, the easiest way is to use Tovid for turning your footage into an mpg, then Varsha to turn that mpg into a burnable DVD .iso image, and burn it with k3b. It's really the easiest way, I promise.
And I've tried the tovid-gui, it's pretty sweet but I really prefer the command-line tovid-batch because I like to batch process lots of .avi files at once, it's a real timesaver. - pabster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I agree. 99.99% just want to burn the *****' DVD.
- indijay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am a newbie, soon switching over to Linux from Windows slowly. I am looking for some method to make DVDs out of DV footage shot using my handy-cam. I found few Linux distros for multimedia but lack of programming knowledge is keeping me away but good post anyway.
- aThing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3But it can only create data DVDs, not DVDs you can put in a DVD player and play.
- inkubux, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3It beets Nero at any points :)
viva k3b - dukeinlondon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Easy video mastering is the one area where Linux is lacking in mature tools. There are user friendly tools but not mature.
- regeya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use AVIDemux2 and DVD Styler because I'm too lazy for even that much command-line work. :-D
- se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This is the reason why linux isn't used as ofter as it should be...
They make ***** burning a dvd a big and time consuming ordeal... come on, it's a DVD! - dukeinlondon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Feeling better now ?
- cazabam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just remember that easy != intuitive. So it's not the most intuitive thing in the world to type a command line ... for some people. However, once you've got to grips with it and made sense of the options, it is very easy. It's like the old "vi is hard to use because I don't know the commands" argument; once you DO know the commands, it isn't difficult at all. The only hurdle is you.
Quick example to the 'complexity' of command line DVD burning. I frequently burn AVIs to DVD so I can watch them elsewhere. It generally comes down to 3 lines, once I have created a dvdauthor.xml file from a template file I keep handy:
$ ffmpeg -i input.avi -target pal-dvd output.mpeg
$ dvdauthor -x config.xml
$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video ./dvd/
That's it. With the filenames substituted in, it's the same for each one. Add menus and it has a little extra to do, but hardly a lot. I can generally build a DVD with menus without any outside reference in about 5-10 mins, plus encoding time. Sounds pretty 'easy' to me.
Oh, and to everyone who says "It must be hard if you keep a reference file" ... all I can say is Word Macros. Word is often raised as the bastion of ease of use, especially by free software nay sayers. Would you want to deliberately memorise and redo complex operations when there are macro facilities available? No, thought not. - admiralpro9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wrong article...
- felyduw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@aThing: a DVD "you can play" is a data dvd with a VIDEO_TS and an AUDIO_TS dir... and obviously the encoded files and .ifo on VIDEO_TS.
- drag, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7"". and it's attitudes like Metabolife's that makes linux what it is today""
He was JOKING. You noticed the =D part right? That indicates sarcasm. - zimm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1seems alot harder and more time consuming than using nero... 4 clicks and wait while it burns.
"oh but you get the cool geek points for using linux and taking twice as long to do the same task! and windows sucks!"
ijits... for all your claims that windows sucks and we should use linux..... why cant you even manage to improve upon windows... if it sucks that ***** bad.... it should be EASY to do better...
and yet the zealots fail time and time again... thats pathetic. hating something because it sucks so bad. and not being able to do any better... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -19/+16You linux noob. Why don't you cry and run back to your mommy Windows? =D
- toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0extremely small gaming library.
there is one reason, now go linux/windows dual boot. i dual boot ubuntu with windows. i mostly use windows because i do alot of gaming but when i just want to mess around without risking my data i switch to ubuntu and try to learn basic shell commands. i have been going at this for about a month and i havent caught onto anything yet. learning the shell commands is hard i think, that is why i am hesitent to switch fully for non gaming apps. - forgiste, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2shut the hell up and buy a mac.
Viva macbook! Seriously, I want one good reason to not buy a macbook or macbook pro.. - pointlessaudio, on 10/12/2007, -22/+1not cool and this is easy
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