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- nhnFreespirit, on 06/04/2009, -0/+20No. Still not possible due to limitations in the underlying (Phonon) sound library. The good news is that there is a Google Summer of Code student working on this issue. He will be adding the needed hooks into Phonon and then building a visualization system for Amarok 2.
- manstein01, on 06/04/2009, -1/+16They finally fixed the playlist. Thank God. Other than that, congrats to the devs on this update. It's not easy to re-write great software like 1.4 was/is.
- T8erT0T, on 06/04/2009, -1/+13It's Itunes without the suck. And it doesn't do that annoying gapless playback scanning ***** that people with large libraries can't stand.
- Dongvid, on 06/04/2009, -1/+12Good release, I especially like the playlist queueing and "Stop After This Track" options. The only problem I've had is the center "context view" doesn't work well with dark KDE themes in my experience.
- kleverness, on 06/04/2009, -1/+12I've been using the SVN version and it's quite better than the first release. However, there's room for improvement, specially the usability and looking of the context view. But I think it's just a matter of time. Kudos to all Amarok contributors for another step forwards! :)
- tomjowitt, on 06/04/2009, -3/+12I love Amarok but they really need to do something with that interface. The 2.x releases look horrible.
- nhnFreespirit, on 06/04/2009, -0/+9While I understand what you mean, I am not sure "fixed the playlist" is a fair description :-)
The 2.0.2 playlist was not broken as such. It just did not live up to its full potential yet. The technical foundations of the playlist in 2.0.x is what makes the new, configurable, playlist in 2.1.0 possible. And this current incarnation is by no mean the final word on the Amarok 2.1.0 playlist as we already have several cool things planned for 2.2.0 that will make it even more powerful. - TruthKid, on 06/04/2009, -1/+9Amarok > iTunes
I went from Mac to PC about 7 years back, and I couldn't shake iTunes. It just makes sense to me. Then I tried out Kubuntu and got bit by the Amarok bug. It was very easy to transition between the two. The only other music player I'll use is Songbird which I suggest you check out as well. - ileftfark, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8I've downgraded to 1.4 for the time being. I have full confidence that Amarok 2 will be among the best players out there, regardless of platform... they just have a ways to go yet. Anyone know if the SVN versions include Wikipedia integration or Musicbrainz equivalent yet? Once you get used to those features, you cannot go back.
- leinir, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8Wikipedia was there in 2.0.0, and it's of course still there in 2.1.0 - you may need to add it yourself, though, just add it to the Context view :) Musicbrainz was a horrorshow for us, but a similar feature is being worked on, based on last.fm's fingerprinting :)
Good to hear you have faith in us, it makes us all warm and fuzzy to hear that :) - nhnFreespirit, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8"Amarok 1.x was a revolution for me and my music. Amarok 2 is an evolutionary step forward."
That is an interesting observation! :-)
For me its exactly the other way around. Amarok 1.4.x was/is _great_ at what it does, but many of the core features were actually very much in line with what is offered by other music players (although most other players did not to it quite as well). The excel style playlist, focus on the local collection, and so on. Which is also why other players eventually caught up with it.
Amarok 2 tries to challenge a lot of the ideas that are very ingrained in most other players, and the way people think about them. Such as seamlessly integrating remote content from many different sources or a column-less playlist, doing these things not as a graft or hacked on feature but part of the core architecture.
I guess, in the end, it all depends on perspective :-) - lfranchi, on 06/04/2009, -0/+7unfortunately, due to the fact that the amarok engines and data-engines link directly to amarok, you can't run the context applets in plasma. however, you can write plasma widgets that can communicate to amarok via its dbus interface.
- Krondor, on 06/04/2009, -0/+7I really love the Amarok 2.x changes. I'm not sure if it's coming, but I would love to embed the widgets in Amarok onto my desktop. Some slick stuff going on there and definitely feels part of KDE4 now. Great job Amarok team!
- nhnFreespirit, on 06/04/2009, -0/+6We would love to be able to drag widgets out of Amarok and on to the desktop. Unfortunately this is technically hard (although likely not impossible) to do due to the nature of plasma applets. So it is something that is not likely to get implemented as long as there are more immediately important stuff to add/fix. (with, of course, the standard disclaimer that if someone shows up highly motivated to take on this task... )
- 4DFX, on 06/04/2009, -2/+8Does it have visualisations and an equalizer yet?
- sloppychris, on 06/04/2009, -0/+5I've temporarily gone to Exaile. I have a feeling I won't be able to stay away from Amarok much longer though. It was my first love.
- 0tis, on 06/04/2009, -0/+5Exaile didn't work too well for me last time I tried it. Nice piece of software, though, once they get it cleaned up (which they may have done, in the last six months or so)
- piratebill, on 06/04/2009, -2/+7That was exactly the reason I "downgraded" to 1.4
- nhnFreespirit, on 06/04/2009, -0/+5in general, for fast help, try our IRC channel #amarok on irc.freenode.net
On straight ubuntu I would guess that switching from the gstreamer to the xine phonon backend would fix it.
First, install the phonon-backend-xine package if its not installed already.
then from the settings, go to "playback" and press the sound system "configure" button. Here, on the second tab, make sure that xine is the preferred phonon engine.
Hope this helps - ToneQuality, on 06/04/2009, -5/+9I'll stick with 1.4
- youri, on 06/04/2009, -3/+6Context view is useless and ugly. Memory leaks in collection scanner. Mysql embedded is slow and easy to corrupt. Various artists support is still iffy. All kinds of features are gone (that were in 1.4). Crashes often. Bloated.
Otherwise, it's nice. I use it. - leinir, on 06/04/2009, -1/+4Have you tried turning it off and on again?
...and now seriously, sorry ;) Are you using the phonon-gstreamer engine? (if you do not know, this is most likely the case). If so, please try switching to the Xine engine :) - ill0gical, on 06/05/2009, -0/+3iLolled. But you speak of 2.0.x in my experience, not the newly released 2.1.0.
- abbathdoom, on 06/04/2009, -3/+6Lol, he asked if the interface is clean. Amarok, for all its great features is not exactly what I would call a clean interface, for that you need something like Banshee on GNOME.
- clickwir, on 06/04/2009, -3/+6I love Amarok, I wish they would make a 1.5 that has the same interface as 2.x. Just to piss people off.
No really, it's a great interface.
Amarok 1.x was a revolution for me and my music. Amarok 2 is an evolutionary step forward.
IMO of course. :-) - bheis21, on 06/04/2009, -0/+3How does Amarok compare to iTunes? I love the interface and simplistic view of iTunes. Is a clean interface?
- Krondor, on 06/04/2009, -0/+3If only I were a stellar coder I might actually look at coding that, but I'm not alas. Thanks for the info I guess I'll have to get by with whatever plasma + dbus can provide to Amarok and what not. I guess it wouldn't be hard to reinvent those applets as plasmoids using Dbus to ping what song is playing etc..
- mohtasham, on 06/07/2009, -0/+3Amarok is a great piece of software.
- jman82s, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2Yeah, the lack of an equalizer is the only real thing keeping me from adopting 2.x. One of the developers said he felt that equalizers were "just toys," but I know that they are in fact not.
I refuse to use any audio player without an eq, and while Banshee works okay, it uses mono. Which sucks. - Bisclavret, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2looks interesting, so i'll give it a try. but it's going to be hard to get me off winamp after slmody 11 years of using it.
- zerodaysoon, on 06/04/2009, -1/+3it doesnt work in my laptop :-( i have all the right mp3's codecs and it doesnt play anything...not even the music on the linuix partition...im using the ubuntu version..went to the forums but no one helped....any idea diggers?
- sloppychris, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2Answered my own question. Here's the source to add:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubu ... jaunty main - sloppychris, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2This page says Amarok 2.1 is in backborts:
http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.1
Does this mean if I have Ubuntu backports enabled it will update, or are Kubuntu backports separate?
(deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubu ... jaunty main) - Cipher054, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2already using 2.1 from svn and kickass :P
- 0tis, on 06/04/2009, -0/+1***** off.
- nightrose, on 06/04/2009, -1/+2Also check if you have PulseAudio installed. It causes such problems. Remove it.
- whereisian, on 06/04/2009, -6/+7Sorry Amarok, after trying 2.x (after using 1.4 for a while), I've moved onto Exaile. Gnome-native, similar feature set, much cleaner.
No musicbrainz, but Picard runs well and fingerprints in batch.
If you're disappointed with the new Amarok, check out Exaile. It's in the Ubuntu repos.
http://www.exaile.org - explodingzebras, on 06/04/2009, -1/+2Yeah i've recently moved to Exaile from Amarok 1.4.10 on 9.0.4 (used third party repo). Exaile has improved a lot since I last tried it. I moved from Amarok because of some weird bug whereby when its running my GTK theme is lost and goes to basic theme. Also I've tried the latest Amarok on my old Sawtooth Mac (OSX Tiger / 400mhz / 2gb ram) and it works fine.
- bheis21, on 06/05/2009, -0/+17 years back? can you even compare? That was around OS 9 correct?
- TruthKid, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1I had OSX, my parents continued to use OSX (they've bought new iMacs for some ungodly reason almost everytime they come out). I still use iTunes on windows, perhaps that wasn't clear by the way I worded it, but I prefer Amarok as it does what iTunes does only better, and with wikipedia!
- shredswithpiks, on 06/04/2009, -1/+2Has it stopped randomly dropping albums from the library database yet?
- bheis21, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1Thanks for the help! I don't like to say that I'm a fan boy but I love how clean and simple Apple makes things appear, but they let you have other features if you know where to look. I will try this out though as it seems that people enjoy it!
- zerodaysoon, on 06/06/2009, -0/+1amarok does not have those options in the playback tab...i tried installing the phonon-backend-xine package and nothing still....
- 0tis, on 06/04/2009, -0/+1Seriously, who buried you for that?
- pak314, on 06/04/2009, -1/+1Amarok and jalad at tanagra.
- ignotion, on 06/05/2009, -0/+0When the walls fell!
- bheis21, on 06/05/2009, -1/+1"It's itunes without the suck" What are you trying to say? I really would like to know what you define as suck. I love reading the attacks and the apple windows debate but I hate people that bash either with nothing to back up their words.
- YourNameHere1, on 06/04/2009, -0/+0Nobody ever clicks these links..... why waist your time?
- 4DFX, on 06/04/2009, -2/+1Is it just me or does it look like a web 2.0 website?
- spish, on 06/04/2009, -4/+2Huh, Amarok is was Volkswagen named their new pickup truck.
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