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- chaos386, on 11/17/2008, -0/+82From their Flash Player 10 FAQ ( http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/f ... )
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**Why aren’t the Windows and Mac 64-bit alpha versions available on Adobe Labs?**
Release of this alpha version of 64-bit Flash Player on Linux is the first step in delivering upon Adobe’s commitment to make Flash Player native 64-bit across platforms. We chose Linux as our initial platform in response to numerous requests in our public Flash Player bug and issue management system and the fact that Linux distributions do not ship with a 32-bit browser or a comprehensive 32-bit emulation layer by default. Until this prerelease, use of 32-bit Flash Player on Linux has required the use of a plugin wrapper, which prevents full compatibility with 64-bit browsers. With this prelease, Flash Player 10 is now a full native participant on 64-bit Linux distributions. We are committed to bringing native 64-bit Flash Player to Windows and Mac in future prereleases.
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So basically, Linux got 64-bit support first because more people asked for it, and they actually *listened*. Wow. - 4DFX, on 11/17/2008, -0/+81How about somebody posting a link to the actual download site.
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
And a big THANK YOU to Adobe for finally listening ;) - blooby, on 11/17/2008, -2/+77Wait... Adobe are listening?!
- klitzbtc, on 11/17/2008, -0/+32One step closer to switching over to 64bit for good.
- TehDoctor, on 11/17/2008, -6/+37About ***** time.
- arunforce, on 11/17/2008, -1/+27I don't use 64 bit Linux, but I can understand how frustrating this would be.
Good job, Adobe. - GothAlice, on 11/17/2008, -3/+26It's only been, what, 5 ***** YEARS?
- vibrokatana, on 11/17/2008, -0/+18@ amk29j, linux can run 32bit and 64bit programs side by side.
And 32bit flash works (sorta) via a wrapper (nspluginwrapper), however it is prone to stop working randomly. - int19h, on 11/17/2008, -0/+18I thought it was great that there were no crud and just the single libflashplayer.so file.
- PReitz, on 11/17/2008, -3/+19Now if they would just get Photoshop and Dreamweaver on Linux, that would be great :)
- metalgel, on 11/17/2008, -0/+15Thanks Adobe!
Everyone wins when you level the playing field a bit. - SirChasm, on 11/17/2008, -1/+14The fact that it took them this long (it's been asked for like years now) to actually get it done shows that Adobe isn't awesome at all.
- acbernier, on 11/18/2008, -0/+111) shut down the 'fox
2) save the dl'd file 'libflashplayer.so' to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
3) make sure the file is properly chown'd
4) start up the 'fox
5) enjoy Flash on 64-bit Linux (never thought I would say that in this decade) - snea, on 11/17/2008, -2/+13About time. It'd be nice if there were some sort of installer but since this is just an alpha release it is understandable that there isn't.
Just removed all my old flash *****, copied the library to my firefox plugins folder, and I'm finally able to get google maps street view to work! - whosmatt, on 11/17/2008, -2/+13This is the next best thing to eradicating Flash altogether (along with ISP caps, income tax, and cancer.)
- Robustica, on 11/17/2008, -0/+10Even though the lack of x64 Flash for Linux has only stopped me from playing Spank the Monkey at work.......
Go Adobe! - geoken, on 11/17/2008, -5/+15What's up with all the 'Adobe finally listened" comments?
Do you guys actually think they ignored 64bit for the last 2 years, then finally last week some guy at Adobe was like "Man, I'm getting so many emails about people wanting 64bit. Can you guys whip something up" then 3 and a half hours later the plug in was done?
And for anyone who wants to talk about how easy it should have been, can you show me the patches you submitted to Tamarin. Oh, that's right, you cant;
"Sadly we have received zero contributions to make the open source Tamarin VM work properly in 64-bit mode on Linux which would have possibly allowed us to get this done sooner." (tinic - http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/11/64-bits.html) - djbon2112, on 11/18/2008, -0/+8You've obviously never used a modern Linux distribution (and not just the "user-friendly" ones).
- fragm29, on 11/18/2008, -0/+8Yes please, then I can ditch windows for good! Come on, you've done it for OS X already Adobe ... that's unixy!
- Disfnord, on 11/18/2008, -1/+9Finding drivers? The things you Windows users put up with. I admire your patience.
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -2/+10No one still cares about us BSD users :'(
- NikoK, on 11/18/2008, -0/+8Time to make the switch!
- dasunst3r, on 11/17/2008, -0/+8I installed it on my Ubuntu Linux 8.10 x64 installation as well. It works very well -- processor usage has gone down significantly.
- 4DFX, on 11/17/2008, -0/+7FYI I got the 64bit version from that link. Look again.
- santaliqueur, on 11/17/2008, -0/+7They did, we are waiting for Apple now.
- darkhero, on 11/17/2008, -1/+8I uninstalled 64bit Ubuntu 8.10 yesterday because flash would freeze all the time.
- sparcnut, on 11/18/2008, -0/+6Well, some of us would rather not reboot our 64-bit machines just to watch a flash video.
- Anadrienduil, on 11/18/2008, -0/+6dugg using Kubuntu 8.04.1 AMD64!
- ethana2, on 11/18/2008, -0/+6Because everyone has a 64 bit processor now and Ubuntu is the best desktop OS out there?
If you aren't, may I ask why NOT? - Guspaz, on 11/18/2008, -1/+7Funny you should say that; the Windows 64-bit Flash player isn't out yet. Linux gets it first, and Windows at some point in the future.
- ldog, on 11/18/2008, -0/+5Because everything else on my system is 64bit. I like being able to address more than 3.2 GB of RAM without having to resort to a PAE kernel.
- SirChasm, on 11/17/2008, -1/+6I would have felt jubilation for this achievement had Adobe done this on time. Instead, they waited and waited, more and more people bitched at them for completely snubbing the 64-bit userbase, and finally they got off their asses and actually done something. A bittersweet congratulations to Adobe for listening to its users' needs so well.
- cephelo, on 11/17/2008, -0/+5Even with 32 bit subsystems and a 32 bit browser and all the compatability fixes used you still encounter problems with Flash 32 bit under most distros/hardware. I am hoping the 64 bit will fix the periodic "flash crash" where Flash is just replaced with a blank white box, or Flash locking up sound systems, etc.
- omarciddo, on 11/17/2008, -0/+5Call me stupid, but I think hot dogs are food!
- agentlame, on 11/18/2008, -0/+5Creative Commons isn't for Software.
GPL is for OSS. - pbaehr, on 11/17/2008, -1/+5Nice start, but if they would release Creative Suite for Linux I would forever sing their praise. It is the final piece of software which makes it necessary for me to keep a Windows install around.
- Culyt, on 11/18/2008, -0/+4Flash will never be Open, there are patented codecs in it. I would also guess Adobe have their own patents on it so even a project like Gnash could have problems (being bundled with commercial distros for instance, currently Gnash just hooks into gstreamer for the codecs)
Adobe are also anal about flash displaying exactly the same across all systems, so if they are using for example a 3rd party commercial patented truetype antialasing font rendering engine then were never going to see them endorse an OpenSource version since it would need to use a different engine such as OpenType and look slightly different.
☢ - ldog, on 11/18/2008, -0/+4You sure that firefox isn't able to use multiple cores itself?
I bet it's just slow because it's an alpha and they were so excited they managed to get it to compile they wanted to let people play with it. - geoken, on 11/18/2008, -1/+5Then why didn't anyone touch the Tamarin VM?
If it was a simple recompile like all the Linux noobs who echo ***** they know nothing about claim, then why didn't they download the Tamarin source code and re-compile it with 64bit flags?
I guess the problem is that people have no sense of scope. They think porting a low level, code interpreting VM is equal to porting an IM client. - darkstar808, on 11/17/2008, -5/+9Nice, but their rationale is kinda lame. The only reason they are porting to 64-bit is because some distros don't ship w/ 32 bit browser or 32 bit subsystem. It makes it seem like they are being forced to do it. They could at least make a PR statement to the effect of cross-architecture support along w/ thier ARM port. Oh and it still isn't open source :) Use flash, contribute to gnash.
- inactive, on 11/18/2008, -0/+3nspluginwrapper blows my nutsack
- Munshot, on 11/18/2008, -1/+4Hopefully it won't be a steaming pile of ***** like 64-bit Java Virtual Machine. Seriously though, I never though I'd say this, but thanks Adobe.
- ethana2, on 11/18/2008, -1/+4Use the linux version, you just need a wrapper...
Wait.. - reddikilowatt, on 11/18/2008, -0/+3I bought a PC with a 64 bit processor. It came with a 32 bit operating system.
I wanted to make sure I get even wear on my data bus.
/sarcasm - kruykaze, on 11/18/2008, -0/+2Make sure you uninstall non-free flash plugin.And create ~/.mozilla/plugins/ if you don't have it.
- geoken, on 11/18/2008, -0/+2On the penguin SWF blog, it was mentioned in almost every comment thread. It was also mentioned in a post were the author was responding to people who where saying the port should be really simple.
- regeya, on 11/18/2008, -0/+2Yeah, shucks, after paying all this money for a 64-bit plugin, we had to wait all this time!
- geoken, on 11/18/2008, -0/+2Because that virtual machine was designed by Adobe to be the core interpreter of their actionscript VM. It was later given to Mozilla and made open source. It isn't a js interpreter, it's a general interpreter that can be extended for either js or actionscript.
- SteveMax, on 11/18/2008, -0/+2Ever heard of something called a "compiler"? I heard it turns source code to runnable code for whatever architecture you want, including x86-64 ;)
- saejinn, on 11/18/2008, -0/+2Now they just need to stop the endless updates every time users open up Adobe Reader just to read a .PDF.
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