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- ptFoe, on 03/12/2008, -17/+227Thanks Wine & Google.
and ***** you Adobe. - 89vision, on 03/12/2008, -2/+207Does anybody else think it would be funny if Adobe released a native Linux port of CS3 the day that Wine 1.0 comes out?
- legoalert33, on 03/12/2008, -3/+71The shadows aren't correct, its Photoshoped.
- peterjmag, on 03/12/2008, -6/+69In other news, the number of pirated copies of Photoshop CS3 skyrockets.
- sint4x, on 03/12/2008, -1/+56Its almost as if OS X is based off of Unix...
- threemagic, on 03/12/2008, -14/+58"One of the advantages Ubuntu /Linux has over OS X is that it’s possible to run Windows applications. "
Umm what? There are many ways to run Windows apps in OS X (and that's not including Bootcamp and VMware/Parallel's), Crossover is an example... I'm sure the write knows there is an OS X version of Wine being worked on too. - colincornaby, on 03/12/2008, -7/+45WINE DOES compile under OS X and run perfectly. It's not an advantage Linux has over OS X.
- orangefly, on 03/12/2008, -0/+38it's when the sauce must be refrigerated....
- Ki77erB, on 03/12/2008, -1/+37I don't think it would be funny, I think it would be awesome!! Adobe and other software companies need to start coming to their senses and make native linux software. And website developers need to stop making pages that only work in IE (ABC.com). We are waiting.
- PueSi, on 03/12/2008, -1/+31I'm glad, CS3 is way better than CS2.
Hopefully one day Adobe will release a native version for Linux. - AbsurdParadox, on 03/12/2008, -7/+32Now if only I could get CS3 to stop crashing on Vista...
/sigh - daftman, on 03/12/2008, -8/+32The things that you mention are called Virtual Machines. This required you to have copy of Windows just to run a Window app. This means that there is a performance hit with VMWare/Parallel.
Wine on the other hand run the code DIRECTLY without going through virtual machines.
Try and play WoW or Half-Life 2 in a virtual machine.
Bootcamp is just like Dual Boot. You're effectively not running any Windows Software on Mac OS X but on Windows booting into Mac Hardware.
CrossOver cost money and Wine version of OSX is ***** *****.
Yes I know it is difficult for you to accept when someone criticize Mac OS X, but you have to accept that in this case Mac is a poor choice to run Window app. - rotten777, on 03/12/2008, -1/+24No, no, no. It has been years that they have been ignoring a large user-base that basically begged to give them money. It is definitely a raising of the finger to Adobe.
- Twiggy794, on 03/12/2008, -0/+22Why is there no effort to run OSX apps on any other platform?
- daftman, on 03/12/2008, -5/+24ok smart boy. From the Wine website at http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX
"Current Status (x86)
Brief: Simple applications should work.
Notes: Make sure to disable gcc optimizations when building since gcc has a stack realignment bug (this seems to have been fixed in Xcode 2.4). Also, Apple's X11 has serious bugs in rootless mode, so x.org's X11 may be necessary.
Tasks:
Quartz Driver: very rudimentary support through darwine patches
Core Audio Driver: works
16 Byte Stack Alignment: work in progress
Mach Kernel Workarounds and Exception Handling: needs a lot of work
Debugger: does not work"
From the FAQs:
"It is said that Mac OS Intel is now an officialy supported OS and I see a lot of progress about it on the WWN Issues. But why then there is no Official WineHQ builds for the Mac OS on the downloads page?
The main reason is that Apple X11 is badly broken, and Wine doesn't run well with it. We don't like giving users a bad impression of Wine. But if you are truly adventurous and want to try it no matter what, you can find unofficial darwine *Intel* builds here: http://thisismyinter.net/?p=21 and here: http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/"
EXACT SAME THING huh?
Look it's ***** simple to say something "should work". Has anyone actually test wine performance between Mac OS X and Linux? Has anyone actually run wine in MacOS X on a daily basis? I do for Linux version. - Shananra, on 03/12/2008, -1/+18Perhaps they should port wine to Vista...
- iRelinquish, on 03/12/2008, -0/+15Completely unrelated
- safetysealed, on 03/12/2008, -4/+19what in the ***** is open sauce?
- stuffradio, on 03/12/2008, -0/+13Wait... what!?
- Shananra, on 03/12/2008, -1/+14The point is that this is a mile stone, one that I am quite excited about. No, it's not stable yet or usable, but it will be soon.
- burrgrinder, on 03/12/2008, -1/+14Well, partly because their program was worthless compared to other free alternatives, and that their software is essentially free for Windows as a copy arrives with every new computer, new cd/dvd writer, and possibly included with other random software. Except the linux version. That will cost you.
- Frost9999, on 03/12/2008, -2/+15Adobe products are the only thing keeping me on Windows now. If the whole CS3 suite was available natively for linux I would ditch windows in a flash. I thought about going to OSX on my desktop too, but spending £400 on upgrading my hardware for windows gave me the same performance as a £1649 Mac Pro.
Please Adobe - give us native linux apps! - Dropperbr, on 03/12/2008, -1/+14Cool,I'm really happy with wine!
I testing wine on Ubuntu.. it runs all steam games i have, and CS2! - speedyrev, on 03/12/2008, -0/+12Yeah, but it was photoshopped using Wine on Linux :D
- kirstendunce, on 03/12/2008, -4/+16Stop Wine-ing.
- inactive, on 03/12/2008, -0/+11Is that a statement, or a question?
- inactive, on 03/12/2008, -1/+12When they say that CS3 finally run on Wine they mean that I just have to click on the .exe and everything will be installled flawlessly or that I have to do some hacking before to run it?
- Bananas21ca, on 03/12/2008, -0/+11He's assuming you already own a license for Photoshop.
Right? :D - MeneerR, on 03/12/2008, -0/+10Good question ;-)
- jackyyll, on 03/12/2008, -0/+10Psh, don't kid yourself! That'd be unpossible... Everyone knows that OS X is based off of a naturalist from the 1800's. Stupid.
- dracflamloc, on 03/12/2008, -2/+12look up definitions of running and working...
- noself, on 03/12/2008, -8/+18Now if only I could get anything to work with wine...
- sint4x, on 03/12/2008, -3/+13Maybe you should buy it and then call support. I have seen it work many times with Vista.
- 89vision, on 03/12/2008, -2/+11cant it be both? Kind of like a spork
- Remmy, on 03/12/2008, -1/+10Yeah. It didn't hit Windows until 2.0 and was even ported to Solaris a year after it hit windows which is why we, the Linux community are still bitching about native support.
- Naidel, on 03/12/2008, -1/+10When you say "a PC", you mean Windows. Linux runs on "a PC" (as well as a Mac). The computer and the OS are not the same thing.
- colincornaby, on 03/12/2008, -1/+10http://jonramvi.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ps3.jp ... I guess it's TECHNICALLY running... (Honestly though, this is a big step. Congrats WINE team!)
- JosephStalin, on 03/12/2008, -2/+11Giving the a finger to Adobe would be more like making Gimp actually competitive to it, instead of now where it's barely competitive to Photoshop Elements*. Doing the porting work for Adobe and then giving them money on top of that is not giving them the finger, it's just rewarding them for their lack of care.
* I use Gimp just about every day, but it is still seriously lacking in features. Come on, still no adjustment layers? Auto color correction/contrast/etc? - orangefly, on 03/12/2008, -0/+8yes....
- oreo2123, on 03/12/2008, -12/+20this article title is SUCH a ***** tease....it isn't running until I can effectively use CS3's editing capabilities. Otherwise, what's the point?
- badassninja, on 03/12/2008, -0/+8I'm sorry. I am no mac boy but wasn't it written for mac and then ported to windows?
- cawpin, on 03/12/2008, -0/+8Yes, and very well I might add. It just doesn't have the Unity mode that Fusion offers.
- burrgrinder, on 03/12/2008, -0/+7No need. Install cygwin on Vista, then install wine.
- TheShad0w, on 03/12/2008, -0/+7Well good for you! Maybe you missed one of the other Digg article showing that linux has been a major player in some of the biggest animation studios out there. Maybe they would see a huge benefit of having their workstations run Linux right next to their *nix rendering farms?
- inactive, on 03/12/2008, -0/+7I use CS3 almost every day. Never a single crash. Your system is ***** up. Try running a memory test, or checking for heat problems. Don't be an idiot by blaming bad hardware for your software trouble.
- neko, on 03/12/2008, -1/+8This pleases me.
Not that I'd ever use Photoshop - for my needs it's surely overkill, and the price tag only deters me further.
But running this one app, Photoshop CS3, is one of the things you see people harping on and on and on about on Digg. Apparently Linux is incomplete without it, or something. As it was when it couldn't run PS CS2.
Now that it can be run, it's not going to take long for it to be fully functional in Wine, and that will at least shut people up until Adobe releases CS4. - pandaro, on 03/12/2008, -0/+6blaming bad software for your hardware trouble?
- colincornaby, on 03/12/2008, -2/+8@daftman: Do you realize how old that page is? The OpenDarwin version they are talking about doesn't even exist anymore. Darwine doesn't exist anymore. The project was merged into the main tree. The PPC version via QEMU they reference no longer exists either. And that page doesn't reference 10.4.11, 10.5.0, 10.5.1, or 10.5.2, again showing how old that page is. Have you ever actually used WINE on a Mac? It runs a lot more than "simple applications." I've played Counter Strike Source with it...
- monstarmike, on 03/12/2008, -0/+6From what I can remember the .NET environment is somewhat unstable in Wine.
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