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- thecheatah, on 04/16/2008, -1/+30The key is in the quality electrical tape.
- martalli, on 04/16/2008, -1/+26I wish they would offer slightly better hardware (c2d or even a q6600). We bought a c2d inspiron 530 from the dell linux website, but now all you can get are the adequate but unappealing dual core pentiums.
- schestowitz, on 04/16/2008, -7/+28Good point.
- inactive, on 04/16/2008, -1/+20The last time i checked. Self built laptops look like *****.
- TheZorch, on 04/16/2008, -3/+17This myth that Linux isn't as good as Windows really must stop. I've used Ubuntu for a long time and I've also used Vista. I have to say I prefer Ubuntu to Vista. At least Ubuntu works with ALL of my hardware without having to go hunting for drivers. Finding drivers for Vista, even a year after the OS has been out, isn't easy.
- SteveIsTheDude, on 04/16/2008, -0/+10I use Lunch Room trays to give my "home grown laptops" that certain... How do you say.... "Mac Air Style"... that gets me the sexy glances at Starbucks....
- YodaJones, on 04/16/2008, -4/+13I applaud Dells selling Ubuntu loaded systems, but they still have no balls and their price for Ubuntu configured systems is too high considering the Microsoft license cost they save.
- buddamus, on 04/16/2008, -1/+10I'm digging this now on my new Ubuntu PC, I kicked Xp out yesterday
- thecheatah, on 04/16/2008, -2/+11Lets see, for the past 2 years, I have been doing ALL my college assignments on Ubuntu. Writing papers (math and english), programming assignments (a blessing to use linux, x forwarding matlab saves me a lot of time), songs, movies, and yes games. OOh and it works as a tivo and as a router for my house.
I think ur narrow minded or something - NedSlider, on 04/16/2008, -0/+8But Dell is also losing revenue from not installing all the bloatware it normally ships preinstalled on it's Windows configured machines. This may offset any savings from not having to supply a Microsoft license.
- thecheatah, on 04/16/2008, -3/+11U do realize the way you see Linux is how Windows looks like to a Linux user. To me its unnatural to not use linux.
- KloroFormd, on 04/16/2008, -0/+8Aren't the prices for Linux systems $50 cheaper?
- Olfster, on 04/16/2008, -0/+7Dell is just trying to sell computers. In my opinion they care nothing about Linux or the people that use it.
- Enron1985, on 04/16/2008, -3/+10Yes, and Dell would never lie to us. I called the US line for Dell computers, the call gets transferred to India of course, but either way the salesman said that Linux is thriving and he even tried to sell me a computer, with a free printer!
- betacmag4u, on 04/16/2008, -0/+7What and HP, Gateway and Compaq are? Gimme a break they all figure out what an "acceptable failure rate" is and then mass produce the machine........ if you want a good high quality reliable machine build it your self. JACKASS !!
- xivulon, on 04/16/2008, -0/+7Dell NEVER publishes sales figures, as a company policy. Go ahead googling and try to find any sales figures from them for any specific model/OS... Good luck.
All we know is that sales are GOOD, and that is despite their efforts to hide the Ubuntu offering in a dark corner of the website, and despite their marketing gimmick to push the price of bundles with a free OS above the price of bundles with a paid-for OS.
That Linux sales are good is corroborated by many other examples from EEE (top of the amazon most wanted laptop list), to Everex (sold out at walmart), to the fact that almost all other OEMs jumped on the Linux wagon... - DestroyFascism, on 04/16/2008, -1/+8As if I don't use it at work...
Office, Graphics, Webcoding, Email...
It also makes a great mail hub, just tick the box.... - sloppychris, on 04/16/2008, -1/+8If the line is doing as poorly as you claim, then number of upset linux users would be inconsequential to Dell.
- fkr3, on 04/16/2008, -7/+14Their reluctance to release sale figures, and their efforts to not say anything concrete, says more than Schestowitz could ever imagine.
The main reason they're putting it on new models probably has more to do with the pretend-customer backlash that'd circle the internet if they didn't. - daftman, on 04/16/2008, -1/+7Well let's just put it this way. If Dell sell a preloaded Linux machine in Australia, I would immediately replace 10 XP desktops here.
- DigitAl56K, on 04/16/2008, -1/+7I know we all love Linux, but Dell could easily be overstating Linux sales as a jab at Microsoft over a poor response to Vista, seeking lower prices or extended support for XP.
- pdarg, on 04/16/2008, -0/+6you also have to take into account that microsoft pays companies like dell big money to push their os. this money and the money dell has to pay to ensure the hardware is all perfectly compatible with ubuntu quickly eats into the presumed saving of selling an open source os.
- joshua5, on 04/16/2008, -1/+6actual article minus blog spam:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/us/08reef.html?_ ... - SteveIsTheDude, on 04/16/2008, -5/+10Vista SP1 is pretty ***** good people... People who use it THRIVE!!!! :)
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5btw to anyone who doesn't know, use a backslash to do that.
- cantormath, on 04/16/2008, -0/+5The new XPS models Dell is finally offering is cool.
- pweltz, on 04/16/2008, -1/+6It may happen. But I would think the opposite happens much more frequently: People buying Windows PCs or Laptop because they're cheaper or they have no alternative, and then installing Linux on them.
- DestroyFascism, on 04/16/2008, -2/+7XP? sytem error on 00000x000 x0x 0000000x00000 0x 00000000 x0000000
Now go work it out... - Avian00, on 04/16/2008, -1/+6FTA: "People might have looked at other brands previously but are now looking at Dell because of Linux."
Dell just might become that company that "gets it!" Offer customers what they want, and they will give you their business! - dotnetnoob, on 04/16/2008, -0/+5drivers issue. When you buy from OEM that pre-load OS for you then you can be sure that the computer will work with that OS since they have to test it. You can build your own but you have to spend time researching if this or that will work with linux and if the vendor offer the linux version of driver. if not you will end up doing x, compile y and pray that it work. The only reason to buy from any computer vendor is they did a lot of work for you and if you value your time or don't want to mess with the endless linux driver issue. Buying a linux computer from dell or whoever can save you the headache.
- armo, on 04/16/2008, -0/+4what what
- peestandingup, on 04/16/2008, -0/+4"Though they declined to give sales figures for the Linux-equipped machines, the Dell officials were adamant in saying that the program wouldn't be continuing or adding new models if the sales figures were not adequate."
So does this mean sales are great or just good enough?? I'd like to know how good these are doing. - amire80, on 04/16/2008, -0/+4BBC vs. Digg - On BBC the headline would be: A year later, sales of Linux on Dell computers 'thriving'.
The subtle difference. - vincentweber, on 04/16/2008, -1/+5The difference is that politicians can lie, companies don't. They cannot fraud with number. If they say they're sales are going up then they are going up.
- TheWorm, on 04/16/2008, -1/+5No.
- whodathunk, on 04/16/2008, -0/+4Are you saying that the windows install on a dell machine is paid for by advertisements loaded on top of it? There is a name for that, ad-ware, and there are tools to remove software like that... I guess finally proof that a Linux install CD is the ultimate adware and spyware removal kit. Like a tivo, but for computers: skip the annoying ads (yes I know the irony, tivo is linux too).
- stix213, on 04/16/2008, -2/+6"Loading.... Loading.... Error Reboot"
Yeah you definitely use MS - einfeldt, on 04/16/2008, -4/+8From TRA: The Linux-on-Dell idea emerged in February 2007, after CEO Michael Dell debuted a new company-hosted blog called IdeaStorm, where customer could offer ideas and input on prospective new products and services. More than 100,000 people posted comments about wanting to see the company sell computers straight from the factory with Linux preloaded.
- LVDave, on 04/16/2008, -0/+4Despite the "Windows Tax", IMO, its still FAR cheaper to buy the Dell laptop model you want from the Dell Outlet, with either XP or Vista on it, wipe the disk, and self-install Ubuntu on it.. I just bought a Vostro 1400 laptop, got it for $549 (C2D/1.4/2GB/120GB, webcam, Nvidia video), and it runs Ubuntu just fine... While if you go and price out an Inspiron 1420N with 7.10 installed, which is essentially the same as the Vostro, the same system specs there cost over $700 with the std 1 yr warantee.. Whereas my Vostro has an extended to 3 yr warrantee with it....
- betacmag4u, on 04/16/2008, -1/+5What the F**k is that supposed to mean??
- theaceoffire, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3Just like they don't care about XP or the people who use it...
They (like most companies) only care that you buy it from them.
Not what you do after. - inactive, on 04/16/2008, -2/+5How much is that license cost. Do you know?
- daftman, on 04/17/2008, -0/+3> I'm not disputing they're fulfilling those needs, the EEE's sales obviously scream that it's a huge success. But it's a huge success for Asus much moreso than Linux. People are buying the Asus EEE Pc which is running linux and in all likeliness the user doesn't even know, not the Linux EEE Pc by Acer.
The same could be said for any machine. Sony selling Windows Laptop can be argue that it is a huge success for Sony - stix213, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3And how many times have the MS/OSX fanboyz been saying on Digg that the Dell Ubuntu machines were failures? I wonder how much their sales would improve if they actually linked from their normal sales pages to the Ubuntu machines, without having to type "linux" in their search box?
- fkr3, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3I'm saying a bunch of kids using digg, reddit, etc hyped up the idea when it was on IdeaStorm creating the false impression there was actually significant demand for it, and that the sales are probably not very impressive at all but Dell can't backpeddle now because the internet will erupt with outrage from the very same idiots - it was a top story just last week that some deal on a Windows machine wasn't available for the same model with Ubuntu creating a 'Linux costs more' situation.
- bngsudheer, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3Although my job is not sell PCs, I will sure recommend my friends to buy Dell Linux PCs. I will even blog about it. Sadly, today every consumer does not know that there is this thing called Linux and it can be considered as an alternate to closed source software. Dell can make a difference to the consumer's perception. I wish Dell will stop depending on its software partner some day.
- LuTze, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3People might have better things to do with their life. And, typically, it is only cheaper if your time is not worth anything.
In other news, I don't build my cars either. - theaceoffire, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3Your right, but yes, they do put ads on the comp.
And trialware, and "Pay to keep working"ware. - sirhomer, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3It is a niche market. But of course it's a market worth serving, otherwise Dell wouldn't be doing what they do.
Linux is improving at such a fast rate however. It's exciting to be part of this "revolution" so to speak. I never will understand people like estvir or DiggLive who fight for a status quo at all costs. - inactive, on 04/16/2008, -2/+5Claiming a nonexistent moral high ground, sideways jab to the US and faux dismissive punchline. You, sah, are a gentleman and a scholar.
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