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- trotskyist, on 11/27/2008, -11/+67So guys I hear this year is like the year of linux or something.
Just like last year. - doiveo, on 11/26/2008, -12/+56"Mission Accomplished"
- NixiePixel, on 11/26/2008, -9/+45For everything but games, yes.
- Slacker1031, on 11/27/2008, -11/+34"Yup, Linux won. Congratulations!"
"But, ...they didn't win."
"SHH, quiet! If they think they won maybe they'll shut the hell up!" - rpeters, on 11/27/2008, -4/+24We'll be reading the same thing for 2010.
- 3242130193, on 11/27/2008, -2/+19Windows has a CLI too you know. Yeah you never use it - cause it's useless. Thing is you don't HAVE to. You don't HAVE to on Linux either - but people do cause it's useful.
I'm getting sick of this argument - cawfee, on 11/27/2008, -8/+23Give a Linux distro full DirectX support, add in a dash of improved performance over Windows and nobody will ever look back again.
- vinceislegend, on 11/27/2008, -6/+21I sat here for ten minutes trying to think of something witty to say, but I couldn't think of anything. I was close to bringing Admiral Ackbar into this, but I decided against that, and now I got nothing. However, I put enough time and thought into this that I had to post something here--I couldn't just walk away silent and dejected...
So I guess just bury me or whatever. - scy1192, on 11/27/2008, -19/+32I lol'd... seriously.
Linux has a looong way to go, not just in games, but software in general. - rheaume, on 11/27/2008, -12/+25"the operating system war is over and Linux has won"
Seriously? Buried as inaccurate - doiveo, on 11/27/2008, -5/+16I have just the site for you... http://buzz.yahoo.com/
- kavaliro, on 11/27/2008, -10/+20That's odd, I like to install programs without having to reboot five times, hop on one leg and chant an activation code 3 times in Swahili.
If "My installations are easier" is the game, Windows didn't even get invited to the playing field. - Azerael, on 11/27/2008, -5/+13You'd need shades, too, if it was the first time you came out of your mom's basement.
- rjinso, on 11/27/2008, -3/+11Maybe we should all take your example as a lesson in communication - if you don't have anything to contribute, then don't.
- Midnitte, on 11/27/2008, -7/+14I think you forget DirectX was invented and maintained by Microsoft, it will never be on linux. (unless you count wine eh)
OpenGL is better anyway. :)
Very good read, I could honestly see microsoft fail or even sell nowhere close to the amount of XP copies it sold. - rpeters, on 11/27/2008, -7/+14All these ***** distros and not a single working ATI 9100 IGP driver for my laptop?!?!
No thanks, not this year. - KingCritter, on 11/27/2008, -0/+7What was with all the alcoholic drink advertisements scattered throughout the article?
- Hermmunster, on 11/27/2008, -4/+10If you love to install programs without having to type out lines of code, then you will love linux. The only time you need to go to a terminal prompt to issue a command is by choice. The average person using Linux never even touches the terminal and never enters a command.
Now, let's not be ignorant here as all OSes have the need to have people run commands at the prompt, even Linux, XP and Vista...Even Mac OSX.
I think you are just spouting off and repeating rhetoric that you have heard others staying and you have zero actual experience with Linux. - Jeepy, on 11/27/2008, -3/+9That song was about the likelihood of a nuclear holocaust happening by the end of the 80s so maybe this is a subtle way of telling us Skynet will run on Linux. Possible Terminator four spoiler.
- mrBitch, on 11/27/2008, -2/+8@Slacker1031 RE: " this article described a few major companies that use linux. a few. what do you think all the other hundreds of thousands of major corporations are running? "
Well, if you are running large global enterprises with over 50,000 mail accounts... I can tell you that we are NOT running Windows. - raydeen, on 11/27/2008, -5/+11I think the point of the article is that Linux has become so pervasive that learning it insures a job. It is used in damn near everything, it's just so behind the scenes and under the hood that few realize it's there. It's matured to the point that it has become a viable alternative to a more costly closed source platform and a lot of companies are jumping on it. Yes, games and multimedia progs will still require Windows and OS X for some time to come but the low cost and low system overhead that Linux affords make it much more attractive for the ultra mobile machines that everyone is clamoring for. It's a good all purpose OS. And learning is fun.
- Hermmunster, on 11/27/2008, -10/+16This coming from someone that actually uses it? Have you even looked at it seriously? I managed to get 5 people to switch to it this week from XP--for various reasons.
Windows is just experiencing the snowball effect. It will sooner or later loose momentum and you'll see how poorly it really is designed compared to the other choices.
Linux can do 90% of what 99% of us do and no self righteous pundit should even say that is not significant.
If you don't understand it this is a war and open source has no choice but to be the winner. The open development philosophy is vastly superior to closed. In a couple more years you should see Windows playing catch up in all areas, ESPECIALLY now that everyone is aware of lock in and embrace, extend, extinguish (the tactic used to get them where they are today). - angryfirelord, on 11/27/2008, -1/+69100? That's an R200 chipset. Unless you're using a distro from the year 2003, the radeon driver should work for you.
- Lokomis, on 11/27/2008, -3/+8Let me try and get this straight. Because the article didn't provide a breakdown of what every last major corporation runs on their machines I am forced to assume that that every corporation not listed in the article is running anything but linux? And Hermmunster is the idiot?
I think you're logic is a bit flawed. - AzraDarkness, on 11/27/2008, -3/+8Agreed, give me latest PC Gaming support and Ill drop Windows like a stone.
- Rememberthe0511, on 11/27/2008, -1/+6Shut up bill gates. No one likes you.
- Lokomis, on 11/27/2008, -4/+9Long live the CLI!
- jvincent08, on 11/27/2008, -1/+6http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.HTML
Try using Google next time. It's a wonderful thing. - cheeseplease, on 11/27/2008, -0/+5You don't have to use the command line. It is just that most people that use linux really like messing around with their computer, and the command line is the best place for this as it gives you more power.
- raw10, on 11/27/2008, -6/+10We use Linux for web servers, Macs for workstations. They play well together. So I had to rebuild my dad's laptop and threw Ubuntu on it as a bit of a test. It's a ThinkPad T60, and I have to say the install was a piece of cake... the system worked with no driver issues, so kudos there. And he gave it a try, but I have to say that the UI has a LONG, LONG way to go. Reinstalled XP after 2 days. Calling the user interface primitive would be a compliment. In order for Linux to compete in the desktop/mobile market, it's gonna need a lot of spit and polish on the front end.
- coldkill3r, on 11/27/2008, -4/+8Add/remove? Synaptic?
- nickpick, on 11/27/2008, -1/+5What is it about you people and fonts? It's not like they're unreadable or something.
- Hermmunster, on 11/27/2008, -3/+7I have found that a properly configured Linux runs faster than XP, noticeably. And there is no better all-purpose OS than Linux. It is free, and it is used in the smallest computer all the way to the largest computers.
- javaroast, on 11/27/2008, -0/+4Compile from source? What distro are you using? I doubt that many average user would ever have to compile from source. Mounting an NTFS drive isn't a basic function as NTFS is entirely under Microsoft's control and it is not an open format. I don't really think the example you brought up is really something preventing mainstream use.
- Smegzor, on 11/27/2008, -2/+6I just played it in Wine so technically yes it can :P
- lopla, on 11/27/2008, -2/+6progs on linux are 1 click install, not only that everything installed auto updates as needed -and the apps are free/kick ass! You have no idea what you are missing. Download Ubuntu 8.10 live cd and try it, it will just run off the CD so you can have a look.
- Hermmunster, on 11/27/2008, -3/+7This isn't true. And frankly what you don't understand is that your chipset is old and antiquated, so much so that you can't find anything other than legacy drivers for that chipset under XP.
As well, with the current version of Ubuntu (8.10) you should be able to quite easily get compiz up and running with little to no effort.
Also consider why that chipset is now legacy and no longer supported even by AMD. - psion01, on 11/27/2008, -0/+3Well that sucks. I used to like that song, and now I realize that it's just another mangled metaphor from an era of pretentious doomsdayers. At least I'm not alone in thinking it meant something else.
Thanks, Jeepy, have a thumbs up. Time for me to go excise that one from my MP3 collection ... - mozert, on 11/27/2008, -3/+6RTFA, ideas will come easily
- ExRe, on 11/27/2008, -3/+6I am still waiting for native support for my MX Revolution. No, I am not willing to screw around with config files trying to get it to "work". They are called forward/back buttons, ever hear about those? Or is every Linux user still using some ancient ball mouse with two buttons and a scroll wheel?
And it'll be nice once wireless support is even decent, like able to go for 30 minutes without cutting out on me.
I suppose this all could have changed since I tried a linux disto last, probably a year ago or more, but I kinda doubt it. - int19h, on 11/27/2008, -1/+4For everything but the latest Windows games that cannot yet be used with Wine, yes.
- talonh, on 11/27/2008, -0/+3We all know that your grandma is easy enough for linux.
- pinchduck, on 11/27/2008, -1/+3I'll be honest: I bought a Lenovo laptop because it runs Linux natively. It has the Intel 965 graphics system. I can't get 3D games (open arena, flightgear) to operate anywhere near playable. I also just upgraded to Kubuntu 8.10 and was rewarded with broken Palm Centro syncing, broken mk_mod apache module, and a screen that is sluggish and fuzzy by turns. Linux is great, I use it every day and am confident that these bugs will get ironed out, but I program for a living and love to tinker with my PC and O/S. There is no way I could recommend this to a non-power user, let alone a casual user. In many ways, kubuntu 8.10 was a step backward. Linux is supposed to be the stable, "release when ready" O/S. Kubuntu, the KDE version of the flagship distro, has dealt it a serious credibility blow.
- bigbangbuddha, on 11/28/2008, -0/+2I'm sick of hearing about games being the barrier to linux, OS-X, or other operating systems. Desktop games are such a small part of the gaming market anyhow. In fact much of the industry has moved away from developing for PC and has focused mainly on consoles or hand-helds, where the majority of gamers are. Only a very small market of high end gaming like Crysis and a few other shooters are sustaining the PC. Beyond that MMOs are the only other reason to game on a desktop and most of those (including the infamous WoW) have gone cross platform or are web based. So yeah maybe MS will need to hang around to support the gamers, but niche gamers do not dictate what OS's are used to run the rest of the world.
The real sign of linux's success is how its used in everything now, from cell phones, to desktops and servers, to micro wave ovens. The scalability of the kernel and its distros is phenomenal and you can't argue that, neither MS nor Apple have even came close to touching it on that front. There is no real way to know how much of our world is run by linux though, its not managed like commercial software. But the article is right, if your looking to be a software developer its not a bad idea to understand it, you will be confronted by it eventually in one form or another.
- int19h, on 11/27/2008, -2/+4If AMD/ATI doesn't ship drivers for Linux, then they are to blame, not Linux.
"No thanks, not this year" should apply to them. - savantish, on 11/27/2008, -0/+2Actually the command line can go no problem. You don't have to have one running at all. Command interpreters are programs like any other. Just take it out of the boot scripts and you have it.
- psion01, on 11/27/2008, -1/+3"The Future's So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades" was a song about personal success, not nuclear Armageddon. That's why Timbuk 3's lyrics talk about getting good grades, a filler job that pays $50,000 a year, "things are going great, and they're only getting better", and the like. There's a saying about having a bright future, and the singer is joking that his is bright enough to need sunglasses. So what if the subject of the song is studying nuclear science? That could be a reference to nuclear medicine, nuclear energy, nuclear imaging, or even just about any difficult, cool subject (the teacher wears dark glasses) and doing really, really well with it.
- NixiePixel, on 11/27/2008, -0/+2Speaking from experience, the advances over the past year in wireless support have made my laptops actually useable, such that I dumped XP for good on one, and kept a dual-boot with Vista on another (which I boot to maybe 1/10 of the time now).
- Vulphaestion, on 11/27/2008, -0/+2Wait. There are 1/3 (about) of iPhone users as there as Linux users? Holy crap.
- savantish, on 11/27/2008, -0/+2I feel this is very true and I for one have reached the point where I am completely dependent on Linux. The one thing that still irritates me is the way hardware vendors are behind on this. Why would you make a computing device and not make a linux driver? Also, why make a linux driver and make it closed source, is there something more annoying than that?
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