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- wendall911, on 05/22/2009, -0/+38The Ubuntu Netbook Remix is excellent.
- inactive, on 05/22/2009, -4/+32How long will it be before the entire first page here will be an ad?
They are almost there... - Myztry, on 05/23/2009, -1/+25Your sales people aren't doing their job properly. You should fire them and get competent staff.
- Myztry, on 05/23/2009, -2/+21Interesting point in the comments about how the Ubuntu (Linux) version can join a Windows domain but the Windows XP/Vista ones can't. Getting a full version OS instead of a crippled bait and switch version has it's merits.
Microsoft has dropped license tracking in SBS2008R2 (Win7 base) because besides the expense, even Microsoft can't track all the license requirements. Not when you need server license, client access licenses and device access licenses.
The double/triple pay requirements of Windows Server is self defeating. Glad my ISP doesn't use Windows - or I would need to fork out for a CAL to authenticate with my provider and access the Internet. - Gonzoz, on 05/23/2009, -0/+18The System76 Netbook running Ubuntu Remix is excellent
- warp99, on 05/23/2009, -0/+17No, a disaster in waiting would be a laptop-with-a-strap-on.
- faithfreedom, on 05/23/2009, -0/+15Touchscreen, shoulder strap? Nice!!!
- snkscore, on 05/23/2009, -2/+16Why is this on Digg?
Some 1 page review, of a netbook that has 0 features that every other netbook doesn't have?
Why is this interesting? - doshindude, on 05/23/2009, -2/+15$444 is an extremely high price, especially for a netbook with Ubuntu on it with generic specs...hell, I got my MSI Wind with Windows XP and a 120GB HDD (and all the rest of the specs were the same as this netbook in the article) for $350.
- inactive, on 05/22/2009, -0/+12They are going to sell these even in Australia with Ubuntu
- chuckerton, on 05/23/2009, -2/+12I admit I have not seen it, but doesn't that laptop-on-a-strap sound like a disaster in waiting?
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Have a nice weekend. - MorpheousMarty, on 05/23/2009, -2/+11Sounds just like the Asus EEE PC 1000H I am typing on right now. I have it running Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.04. Works great. I do wish I had a graphics card, but it is remarkably robust for a machine supposedly made to just go on the net. I've encoded the entire series of Arrested Development to DVD on it. Anyhow, handy links:
Product:
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Review:
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Since I've had it since November I don't see how the original article above is really news. I was able to upgrade the ram on it in 5 minutes, so it is just as easy to tinker with. Maybe it is the strap. I like the strap idea, except that if I were to use it in my city I'd probably get robbed in short order. - Bicep, on 05/23/2009, -3/+10There are those who say not to purchase GNU/Linux from Dell/HP/etc because their main OS is Windhoze, whereas there are other sites such as system76.com, linuxpreloaded.com, linuxonlaptops.com, zareason.com, and eightvirtues.com who sell GNU/Linux as their premier OS. And although I completely agree with the premise of that argument, I also see it like this: Every machine that Dell sells with Ubuntu, is one less machine that is sold to monopolize a market.
So it's all good.
humans enabled - that's what technology is for
http://getgnulinux.org - Munk3y, on 05/23/2009, -0/+7MSI Wind U100 + 1GB Ram Upgrade (For a Total of 2GB) + Format & Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix = $321.98 w/Free Shipping from Newegg.com. That's the route I went and I couldn't be happier.
- theaceoffire, on 05/23/2009, -1/+7Oh NO! I accidentally the whole laptop!
- warp99, on 05/23/2009, -0/+6"My wife's Mini 9 came with a RAM limit of 1 GB. Oh, the hardware knew how to address 2, but the kernel was compiled with the 1 GB limit."
That's because the original terms with Microsoft so Dell could get XP at a discount was to limit all netbooks to one GB of ram regardless of the OS. Nice how a software company can dictate terms to a hardware vendor. - FKnight, on 05/23/2009, -0/+6Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols talking up anything Linux = automatic front page Digg article.
- Myztry, on 05/23/2009, -3/+9It's not quite as simply as the stupidity of the general public. It's the misuse of branding and marketing. The 'general public' get mislead to believe certain things.
People are falsely led to believe IBM PC compatibles (in many form factors AT/ATX/microATX/etc) are Windows PC's when in fact they are not. Many Windows applications won't run on Windows Vista (etc) because even Windows isn't always Windows, and it has nothing to do with the PC itself.
Deliberate misconception can be used to sell Windows, or it can be used to sell monster cables. Whether the sales people chose to profiteer from that, or be a reliable source who knows the products is up to them. The are the last line, and the last word. It ends how they chose. - kkiran, on 05/23/2009, -2/+8What is soo A+ about it? Not a single feature is appealing compared to other netbooks with similar price tags. How did it even reach the front page? Dell employed some digg users to digg it all the way up? Seriously, why?!
- srs2000, on 05/23/2009, -0/+5For $199 I ordered the Dell Vostro A90 (Mini 9)..
Wireless/bluetooth/webcam.. Should have come with 512m ram but came with 1gb.. It was switched to 2gb for all of $20 from newegg. Should have come with an 8 gig SSD but came with a 16.
Great screen.. You really can't do better for $199.
Spending double that amount for hardly better specs seems stupid.
If you don't like windows then install linux or even Apple's OSX. If you don't like linux then install windows or OSX. If you don't like any of those.. Then go get Moblin or find an abacus because there is no pleasing you. - infectaphibian, on 05/23/2009, -0/+5Don't know about the strap, but I often wish my netbook just had a built-in handle of some sort.
- bradleyland, on 05/23/2009, -2/+7Maybe I'm a friggin moron, but I can't seem to order one of these from the Dell website. I click "Customize with Ubuntu", then I get some Premiere page full of products, none of which are the 2100-N.
WTF Dell? - ChiaGod, on 05/23/2009, -0/+5The really interesting thing about this is that the Linux offering is visible right next to the windows one on their netbooks (there's a "customize" and a "Customize with Ubuntu" button below it).
Also, on their main product page there's a button on the left: "Open-Source PCs".
Quite a bit of progress from the old Dell that had the Ubuntu options hidden away in a separate unlinked page! Now if they can only expand that to the other laptops and desktops they offer Ubuntu on. - Elranzer, on 05/23/2009, -0/+5I checked that out. Is it just a rebranded MSI Wind?
- inactive, on 05/23/2009, -0/+4Dell Australia seem very resistant.
- GumGuts, on 05/23/2009, -0/+4Wow - neat, looks like a decent netbook. It'd be nice for schools.
Just ordered a new netbook, the HP Mini 2140, netbooks make a lotta sense. - mrBitch, on 05/23/2009, -2/+6RE: ".. Glad my ISP doesn't use Windows - or I would need to fork out for a CAL to authenticate with my provider and access the Internet."
Well played sir, well played. - HonoredMule, on 05/23/2009, -0/+4Ruggedness. The current crop of netbooks isn't really your "off-road" variety.
- zwaldowski, on 05/23/2009, -1/+5Nope, System76 is their own OEM.
http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28& ... - cliffzdude, on 05/23/2009, -2/+6Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols likes a computer with Ubuntu loaded on it? Color me amazed. Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols playing up Linux's whopping $30 cost savings? Color me shocked. Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols playing up the need to upgrade componentry to run Vista? Oh - never mind. And I'm a Linux fan , but this guy's schtick is getting old. Sure I go against the grain in these threads, as a computing fan who's largely OS agnostic, but who better than somebody who likes Windows, and Linux Distros, and OSX to rant against an OS zealout like Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols. Give me a hot box and a cool OS with a night away from the kids and wifey, and I'm a happy guy. Be it a niche driven 'Nix distro I haven't tried out, a hackintosh, or Beta testing Windows 7, it doesn't matter. Its all worth learning and using at home and at work...
- esquilax, on 05/23/2009, -2/+5Good god I hope they fix their Ubuntu support.
My wife's Mini 9 came with a RAM limit of 1 GB. Oh, the hardware knew how to address 2, but the kernel was compiled with the 1 GB limit.
Then I hear stories of some users buying Ubuntu Mini 9s with 16GB SSDs in them, but Dell for a while was only formatting a 4GB partition on them.
Then it turns out 3 BIOS updates went out with only Windows installers, which is a big deal on a machine that has a SSD and no other drives in it. People got grumpy enough that Dell finally released a "Linux" version of the BIOS updater, which basically was just the update program, but no boot files, so you had to build your own image.
Then I noticed my wife's machine wasn't getting updates for widely publicized security vulnerabilities... it turns out that the Ubuntu release was for the LPIA arch, and for some reason that necessitated using only Dell's Ubuntu update servers, which weren't hosting the fixes.
I finally just reformatted the thing, 9.04 with netbook remix is on there now. Works much better.
I like that Dell's putting Linux out there as an alternative, but it seems to me that really basic stuff like firmware and OS updates has to be worked out better before they take your money. - techdever, on 05/23/2009, -1/+4for(;;)
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} - chiptricky, on 05/23/2009, -0/+2Props to Dell for driving change and innovation in the PC industry. A very bold move in such a risky market.
- Elranzer, on 05/23/2009, -0/+2The specs don't make it seem any different from the Mini# series.
- spaceman77, on 05/23/2009, -0/+25 years ago Linux was an unknown to many.
They are almost there... - clarkimus, on 05/23/2009, -1/+3$649 is too much for a netbook. Wake me up when they average under $300.
- rpgmakr, on 05/23/2009, -0/+2This netbook is too heavy to my taste. I still prefer my Mini 9.
- HonoredMule, on 05/23/2009, -1/+3I'd happily pay that much if it was really much more durable and really has all-day battery life (I'm seeing claims of 19 hours). Customized to the specs I'd want, it's $584, and I'd still go for it.
- esquilax, on 05/23/2009, -0/+2Yeah, I suspected it was something like that. Fortunately everything's fine when you do a reinstall.
- HonoredMule, on 05/23/2009, -1/+2I've gone through setup for both, and they're identical except for the $30 XP premium +$49 for Vista if you want external memory (which you apparently can't have with this version of XP).
- Phi01, on 05/23/2009, -0/+1just search for "Latitude 2100"
- Kamujin, on 05/23/2009, -1/+2The weight of your argument is lost by the child-like use of "Windhoze" and the Stallman inspired use of GNU/Linux.
It's "Windows", not "Windhoze", "Windoze", "M$ Win", etc.
Also, it's "Linux", not "GNU/Linux", not "GNU/GNOME/Linux", not "Compiz/GNOME/GNU/JAVA/MONO/PYTHON/LINUX".
Thanks. - HonoredMule, on 05/23/2009, -1/+2I ran up the windows and linux flavors both up the same way (cheapest windows option) and came up with:
Windows: $614
Linux: $584
(Both went all-out on touchscreen, wireless, bluetooth, 6-cell, handle and strap, and memory)
...and there's just one hitch. A compatibility warning goes off telling me I need a more expensive version of Windows "additional memory" (WTF? it's 2 gigs total).
Anyway, it's $30 if you only have internal memory, and another $49 for Vista if you want to expand it. For a ~$600 dollar device, yeah, I'd say that IS 'whopping'.
P.S. - This does actually look like an awesome little device with all the right hardware (intel wireless might actually WORK on Linux), and if I could afford it right now, I'd be very tempted to get one. And no, I'm not at all surprised that Vaughan-Nichols is fawning over an Ubuntu laptop, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. - LoneWolf01, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1I think he's talking about how the front page is full of articles praising something recently released.
- LoneWolf01, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1This makes me happy. Not purchase-happy, I'm poor. Just normal happy.
- esquilax, on 05/23/2009, -0/+1Sounds like you want an eMate. :)
- Kamujin, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1Any usefully deployed Linux system is critically dependent on a number of components. This is the nature of Linux.
Stallman disciples reveal themselves as petty in their insistence that the contributions of their components so consistently outweigh the contributions of all other components that the system name must be lengthened to GNU/Linux.
In reality, this lengthened name provided no useful disambiguation. It merely serves to assert some sort of claim to additional control or take credits for a greater proportion of the success of Linux.
The irony is that this egomania would seem at odds to the ideals Stallman has attempted to advance. - LoneWolf01, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1Just go here: http://premierconfigure.us.dell.com/dellstore/conf ...
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