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- SteveMax, on 07/02/2008, -1/+31A couple of lines about each (and a reason for the rankings) would be nice, though.
- DevilsLeftHand, on 07/02/2008, -1/+23Dugg for the Text Based browsers
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -3/+18Where is elinks?
- arjie, on 07/02/2008, -0/+15I would just like to place on record my deep interest in Epiphany-webkit.
Thank you. - usrlocalbin, on 07/02/2008, -2/+16Lynx FTW!
- beersnob, on 07/02/2008, -17/+30I use Linux for 99% of my computing, but I don't get the need for having 100% open-source software. What I need is software that works. If it isn't 100% open-source, so be it. I'm just happy to not be using Micro$oft most of the time. Go ahead...digg me down!
- bradleyland, on 07/02/2008, -0/+9Most information shamelessly taken from author's website or Wikipedia.
Browsername
Engine - Description
Epiphany
Gecko (WebKit version available) - Standard issue web browser with some bookmark management enhancements. Also of note, Epiphany is a fork of Galeon
Galeon
Gecko - Trimmed down web browser known for introducing keyword bookmarks that take arguments that can be tokenized in the URL.
Konqueror
KHTML - Equivalent to IE on Windows (don't hate me for that) in that it doubles for a file browser/viewer inside the KDE windowing environment.
Opera
Opera - Opera's home grown web browser solution with many innovative features such as mouse gestures, IRC client, BitTorrent integration, and RSS feeds to name a few. Engine is also used to drive mobile browsers of the same name.
Seamonkey
Gecko - Mozilla Firefox based browser with a focus similar to the original Mozilla app suite, including an editor as well as an email and newsgroup client.
Dillo
Dillo - Extremely lightweight web browser built using GTK+ and FLTK with C underpinnings, although has limited rendering ability and lack of wide character set support. Suitable for those still running older systems with limited resources.
Kazehakase
Gecko (but soon to be switchble) - Features some advanced features such as smart bookmarks and mouse gestures, but greatest claim to fame will be the ability to switch rendering engines.
Midori
WebKit - New-ish browser, still in alpha. GTK2 interface. Extensible using Javascript.
NetSurf
NetSurf - Touted as lightweight and fast. Uses a home grown rendering engine, and was primarily developed for RISC OS. Originally written for hardware found in PDAs and other mobile/embedded devices. - scamper22, on 07/02/2008, -0/+8kind of a useless article. A small description of each browser might have helped. what makes them different/unique. Anything?
Well... It is a good list at least - yuanzhoulu, on 07/02/2008, -1/+7i agree, i use Linux because i like Linux.
i like open-source and all but i also do believe in the for-profit software industry, or else we wouldn't have such good tools as Maple, Mathematica, etc. (don't tell me ANY open-source thing can do as good as Mathematica, and don't tell me Gimp beats Photoshop. it doesn't until it has a 'Transform Selection' tool for gods sake). sooner or later someone is going to need money, and for-profit software does get developed a lot quicker and to a much more well-supported degree.
i just like Linux, so i use it. - leerayIG88, on 07/02/2008, -1/+7I hope this Linux works with Windows.
- ubuwalker31, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6I use Linux because I support free software. However, free software advocates forget that users have the freedom to use proprietary software along with free software tools, so long as they don't violate the free software license by distribution of non-free software. Philosophically, I would love to only use free software, but in reality, I bought a proprietary video card that needs a proprietary driver, and gosh darn it, I am going to use a proprietary driver so that I can enjoy my $600 purchase.
- se2131, on 07/02/2008, -1/+6Opera is the browser that I mostly use on ubuntu, after getting used to it and loving it on Windows. That being said, the linux version has some pretty big problems, especially when it comes to plugins. Half of the time, a flash plugin will run out of memory or something, and the video will turn into a grey box. The browser itself isn't nearly as stable as the windows version.
On windows, the only brower I ever used was opera b/c literally everything worked with it. On linux, I have to use Firefox as a backup for the pages where opera has problems - akilleen, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5I love links2. It is incredible to me to be able to point and click a text based web browser over an SSH connection.
- jswanner, on 07/02/2008, -1/+6The article lists 9 alternatives to Firefox.
- mickstephenson, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5Exactly why would anyone digg an "article" that says a bunch of things exist but makes no effort to describe them, buried.
- jimminy, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4I just download with wget and view with vi. I'm not into those modern gimmicks.
- MattFromSeattle, on 07/02/2008, -1/+5You should probably have read the article:
"Firefox is a great web browser, there is absolutely no argument about that. However those of us who are using linux long enough have went by quite well without it, and some still do." - AirRaven, on 07/02/2008, -1/+5Perhaps because Firefox extensions for quite a few of Opera's features are far more "clunky" than the originals?
Take "Speed Dial" and "Fast Dial" as examples- they take a significant amount of extra time to load whenever you open a new tab, as opposed to the instant appearance of the Opera equivalent. - se2131, on 07/02/2008, -1/+5Just a lot of little nice things. Mouse gestures, "right-click-then-left-click" to go back a page (this one is amazing), the panel on the side w/ bookmarks + notes + transfers etc that you can toggle by clicking the left side, built-in mail client and RSS feed, FULLY customizable layout, Opera synchronization, speed dial, better pop-up hiding, easy ad-blocking (I know about Adblock, but it's a piece of cake to google for a list of masks to block and copy it into an ini file, don't need to install anything). I know you can get many of these w/ extensions, but frankly these are simple things that I like to be built-in, instead of having to keep track of a bunch of extensions that may or may not stay compatible w/ the current release of firefox
And the truth is, I haven't come across a firefox extension that I liked that afforded me a capability that I couldn't get in Opera. But of course this is dependent on your taste and how your browse - SteveMax, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4I see your point, but Seamonkey IS Mozilla 1.0 (now developed semi-officially by the community).
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4Some of them are just Mozilla's engine with a different "chrome" GUI.
- dresnu, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3I use Konqueror and I love it! Internet navigation + file managing within the same application? Absolutely PRICELESS for me!
A micro$oft idea being implemented a thousand times better :-D - arjie, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4Okay, I'll explain. With things like drivers it's important to be Free software because when the kernel gets all sorts of changes (an ABI change, I think it's called) someone there will fix it so that to you the change has no effect. Can't happen with closed source software.
Also, if you're on a different type of computer, say a 64-bit processor or an ARM processor, or on a SPARC machine, with open source you can, in theory, do the porting or you can, in practice the more effective way, pay someone to do it, usually the person who wrote the software in the first place, but if he's not available just about anyone who knows their way around the program. It's good for us, the user.
That's my non-expert take on it. - evilgold, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3I agree with you principle but from what i've learned over the years since i've switched to open source is that relying on closed source software can cause problems. That doesnt mean its not good to have the option, but if that option no longer works you could be left in the dark. The real point isnt that closed source is 'morally' bad (though it can be argued) the point should be that closed sources causes more problems then it solves.
Besides everything of importance seems to either have a good open implementation by now (like swfdec for flash), or heading to GPL friendly licenses (java). Even Microsoft's bogus new office formats are sort of open. - migel628, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2OK
- drummerjed, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2installing puppy linux with seamonkey on an old gateway that has a celeron 400mhz with 192mb of ram. why because my brother likes to get drunk and surf for porn on my computer using ie.
- dualscreenman, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2They didn't include retawq. :(
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Midori look nice, for some reason, it reminds me of what Firefox used to be. Regarding to Epiphany I have to say that it is a good fast&light web browser, I'm just hoping for them to include a search box plugin to use it. In fact, I don't know how they haven't include one yet, that's basic in a browser in this day and age.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Sounds like a...plan.
- AirRaven, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Where's w3m? Since it's the only Text-Based browser actually included with the most popular Linux distro these days, I'd have thought it warranted a mention...
- tnoy, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3I wish I could digg you up more than once.
- jimminy, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Those are too easy to exit.
- akilleen, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2That uses a lot more bandwidth, and is slow as all getout if your are over a slow connection.
- antdude, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2http://elinks.or.cz/ for the URL. I prefer eLinks over regular Links.
- TheWindBlows, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2using "ie"
I believe him sadly...want to know why?
No geek can jack of with "ie" open. - SteveMax, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3skipgog, it's because of the Great Firefox Paradox®.
Firefox is great because it can be almost infinitely expanded by add-ons. Those add features that it lacks on its default install, making it possible to equal or surpass Opera's feature set, keeping only what you like.
However, whenever someone complains about memory or performance issues, add-ons are to blame. There are some add-ons that weren't fully tested in every possible situation, so they can leak memory or lock Firefox. Even worse, those will be reported as Firefox bugs, NOT as bugs of the extension that caused the problem, so it's possible that the developer never hears about the bug and is never able to fix it. Therefore, by adding all of the Opera functionality to Firefox, you may lose reliability, performance, or both (and I'm sure you have seen it happen, the "FF uses 1GB of RAM when idle" myth came from this).
Opera, on the other hand, is developed as a single entity. Whenever a bug is found, it can more easily be assigned to whomever can actually fix it. Besides, you remove the possibility of the interaction between two or more addons being responsible for whatever is the problem. It's simpler to manage a monolithic code than an infinitely fragmented one, specially when those fragments don't necessarily have any form of contact between them.
You (or I) may not agree with the reasoning, but sure as hell it's a valid reason to use Opera. - fotoman, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Where's the love for w3m? :-D
- gazzerh, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Use X forwarding with SSH and use a GUI browser over an SSH connection.
- Eric3k, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Since there isn't much more than a list here can I ask something. I have read Linux articles forever. I finally found one distro that enticed me to downlowd a bootable disc. It was Beatrix. Sounded easy to use and it was... very minimalistic for web browsing chatting and e-mail. Seemed great. That distro was abandoned...too bad really. It was great for grandma. But moving from having it on disc to the hard drive and then getting just a few customizations just threw me. For those who enjoy just how the computer works this is not a big deal...I get that. Just the partitioning thing was hard tho. If I could have had that installed and it would set up easy I would be using it right now. I don't follow Linux like I used to. I keep waiting for the headline that says... If you are a computer moron and lazy to learn, here is your Linux. Is that close? Windows is fine. 98 was easy enough and XP is better. But I don't need windows but 10% of the time. I have this monster open just type this. Is the learning curve lesser now? Know what I am asking?
- ctenn2ls, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1I tend to use Seamonkey as my backup browser.
- yuanzhoulu, on 07/02/2008, -5/+6except for Opera and links all of the browsers on that list are lame.
half of them are rip-offs of Firefox, a couple are rip-offs of Mozilla 1.0, Konqueror is allright but has crappy javascript support (and KDE4 blows so i'm not using KDE stuff anymore), and lynx is horrible because when you get a cookie and accept it, you have to wait a full 2 seconds of the computer doing nothing before it continues loading the page, which gets annoying pretty quickly. - arjie, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Listen, I thought this was common knowledge but I'll say it anyway. Free software need not be given away. Look at MySql.
- antdude, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1What about eLinks? http://elinks.or.cz/
- Ademan, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1bah, i view with cat, and more if i'm really feeling n00bish.
- antdude, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Still slow. Web text browsing FTW.
- inactive, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1I like it too, but it is not on the list...
- fmlive, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2Flock and firefox......anyone.....
- Knet88, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1I agree with you, but since you asked, I'll digg you down.
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