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- sloppychris, on 01/10/2008, -3/+13310. They don't like clicking through pages to read one article.
- clearzen, on 01/10/2008, -3/+68I'm going to digg this because I think quite a few of his points are valid. However, with photos like this it's little wonder people think of linux as a operating system for geeks.
- inactive, on 01/10/2008, -3/+32Based on the author's picture, I thought this was going to be a humor article about the overt geekiness of free software users. Good article nonetheless, I can relate to most of it.
- dwninjungleland, on 01/10/2008, -21/+4910. They will digg up any *****/obvious/halfass article that strokes their ego and bolsters their self esteem.
- InuX, on 01/10/2008, -0/+24The man is clearly not a geek, but a nerd.
- inactive, on 01/10/2008, -2/+26They usually have a folder in my documents labeled "keygens". These wonderful programs play midi tunes to make your freeware installation more enjoyable.
- tnoo, on 01/10/2008, -4/+251) Free software users expect open licenses and no activation methods
2) Free software users expect regular upgrades and patches
3) Free software users expect to work the way they choose
4) Free software users want control of their own systems
5) Free software users explore
6) Free software users expect to help themselves
7) Free software users don't fear the command line
8) Free software users learn software categories, not programs
9) Free software users expect access to developers and other employees
There, I just saved you from reading a boring article spread out over 3 pages. - egonSchiele, on 01/10/2008, -0/+21I wish the pic was of a really macho guy, just to confuse the people who see the pics but can't be bothered to read the article.
- inactive, on 01/10/2008, -7/+24Not a big fan of these masturbatory articles. Seriously, all of these self-referential editorials are just written to make readers feel better about themselves. These articles reassure people of their superiority, nothing more, and contain zero evidence to backup their statements. Did the author actually poll free software users, or is this just what HE thinks they (we) want?
- 89vision, on 01/10/2008, -5/+22not all free software users are social retards.
- thetanbark, on 01/10/2008, -11/+28#1. They don't have girlfriends.
Proving they really are the smart ones. - ha1f, on 01/10/2008, -3/+18are?
- arbulus, on 01/10/2008, -4/+18For FSMs sake, this thread is full of some nasty people (or one really nasty person with 20 accounts).
If you don't like free software, then don't click the article. You can even block the Linux/Unix category so you won't see the article. No one is looking for your approval. If you are happy with Windows or Mac, that's fine. No one is forcing anything on you. - bherring, on 01/10/2008, -1/+13Think? More like KNOW we are geeks. :)
- skyshock1, on 01/10/2008, -0/+11Gah, they even split up the "printable" version across 3 pages - http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/print.php/12 ...
- epiffffany, on 01/10/2008, -0/+9Dug for the sexy photo.
- leexy, on 01/10/2008, -1/+10Gee...ya think?
- joshman5k, on 01/10/2008, -7/+1610. They write articles about how great they.
- NeoRicen, on 01/10/2008, -14/+22They forgot 'cheap'.
- mashedup, on 01/10/2008, -1/+9Well 'Machintoshman' you'd have to live without your Mac OS X too. Wouldn't get as far as the apple logo without all the underlying GNU it uses. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
- vuke69, on 01/10/2008, -1/+9i can haz invizdable sammich?
- one1plus1one, on 01/10/2008, -1/+8What!? I thought Linux-Geeks were skateboarders that wear long black trenchcoats, enjoy "unethical hacking", and date hot freaky chicks with multiple piercings? That's the only reason I bought my Intro to the Unix-Command-Line book. Now you tell me they look very... different!? WTF?
- Retnuh730, on 01/10/2008, -2/+9They'd prefer having a night on the town with their right hands/fleshlights more, anyway.
- Radian, on 01/10/2008, -2/+9Inaccurate - no mention of beards.
- twiztidsinz, on 01/10/2008, -3/+9oh wtf.. wrong story.....
- twiztidsinz, on 01/10/2008, -3/+9So can you now have your laptop and eat it too?
- arbulus, on 01/10/2008, -4/+10Yes, yes I would - in a heartbeat.
- dwninjungleland, on 01/10/2008, -2/+81. Just because I find the article useless doesn't mean i'm not a fan of free software
2- 10. top ten lists rule! - andycr512, on 01/10/2008, -3/+9What does that have to do with anything he said?
- Karmavs, on 01/10/2008, -1/+7how great they build suspense?
- inactive, on 01/10/2008, -0/+5it *is* true. photoshop is a god among 2D graphic design programs, other solutions (free or proprietary) have yet to reach it's level.
only pointless for those that don't care about the free aspect
you confuse free of cost, gratis, or "free as in beer" (though it rarely is) with free of (essentially legal) restrictions, libre, "free as in speech" - edwartica, on 01/10/2008, -0/+5Those page splitting bastards!
- DonJohnTom, on 01/10/2008, -0/+5i think he forgot the most important one:
free software users expect software to be free - arbulus, on 01/10/2008, -2/+7Are you referring to a specific incident, a specific piece of software?
- Fergy, on 01/10/2008, -1/+6And here is the translated version for people who don't buy the Microsoft and Apple FUD:
1) Free software users prefer open licenses and dislike activation and other methods that get in the way
They have so much choice in what software they use and are so accustomed to being treated nicely by the software distributor that they just don't accept bowing down to a software distributor.
2) Free software users want easy updates and upgrades
They have enjoyed frequent and relatively fast updates to their free software programs and like it that way.
3) Free software users expect to work the way they choose
They have so much choice that they even can choose not to have much choice like Ubuntu with their default install.
4) Free software users want control of their own systems
They don't like being nagged and they don't like being told what to do.
5) Free software users learn things
They try to solve problems by finding out what the problem is.Not by updating everything in the system and hope it works.
6) Free software users know where to find help
They know where the wiki's, forums, irc channels, mailing lists and man pages are and they know how to use it. They even know that traditional tech-support is useless for real problems.
7) Free software users don't fear the command line
Because they learn they also learn how to do things in multiple ways like the GUI and the command line.
8) Free software users learn software categories, not programs
They are not locked into a single program for anything.
9) Free software users like being involved with their favorite programs
They usually can contact the developers directly and if they can't they often can find someone else willing to help them fix the program.
Conclusion
Because of the way free software works and because of the freedoms the free software licenses provides this is all unlikely to change. If you want free software users to use your software you will have to adapt to their wishes. - inactive, on 01/10/2008, -0/+5Nope, just have more money to spend on hardware
- inactive, on 01/10/2008, -3/+7i think ballmer is a pretty cool guy. eh thros chairs and doesn't afraid of anything.
- Bamborzled, on 01/10/2008, -1/+5You must using an inferior operating system that randomly eats forms of the verb 'to be', just to screw with the user.
- pendrachken, on 01/10/2008, -0/+4What "constant tweaking" are you talking about? Generally you get something setup the way you like it and leave it that way... just like windows and osX.
Don't confuse configurability with constant tweaking, even on the desktop side of things it is no different than what is available on windows ( stardock, skinning in general) except that you don't have to pay someone else to do it ( beside free skins anyways).
If you are talking about Xwindows i have been using the same config file for a long time... on different distributions even. it works on fedora, debian, ubuntu... only had to change it twice. Once for a graffix card update and once to enable compiz-fusion support. - bruenig, on 01/10/2008, -3/+7You will see once you have learned enough how inane your criticisms were. Just wait.
- andycr512, on 01/10/2008, -4/+8How are we cheap? I would pay for Linux if it weren't free, and I know many others would as well. Are university scientists cheap because they share information with each other without asking for money for it?
- itsatrapadbar, on 01/10/2008, -1/+5dugg for the front page pic.
- stotty, on 01/10/2008, -0/+41, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 9 start with "Free software users expect". They sure are a demanding bunch aren't they!
BTW - I am a free software user. - Acolyte357, on 01/10/2008, -0/+3I love the fact that you bash open source OSs then tell us you use one 90% of the time.
- dstz, on 01/10/2008, -1/+4Ok, this is lame.
- thelastknowngod, on 01/10/2008, -1/+411. beards
maddog:
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/files/www.free ...
stallman:
http://linux.ues.edu.sv/servidor/maracosas/bruno2d ...
me:
(no pic avail)
:-) - MrZee, on 01/10/2008, -2/+5Stop over analyzing and a get a life.
- Stonekeeper, on 01/10/2008, -0/+3If that were true, computers would be like appliances. They are not. Whatever setup you have to get your work done has been setup by someone else, if indeed you have done no "tweaking" to "get it to work".
- JohnFlux, on 01/10/2008, -0/+3You know blender has tutorials and proper books right?
- Phlosten, on 01/10/2008, -4/+7Buried for having such a smug geeky photo.
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