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- deathfix, on 11/20/2008, -1/+85Linux users have been begging for 64-bit Flash Player for months. It's no surprise that Adobe prioritized Linux on this one.
...Now for a fully functioning 64-bit Java plugin from Sun. - Vadi0, on 11/20/2008, -4/+64A 64bit Linux is more "64bit" than Windows. If in 64bit windows you peek into your task manager, you'll notice quite a lot of processes running in 32bit mode.
- tacochampion, on 11/20/2008, -2/+55It's very smart to release their linux version first.
It's pretty obvious which sector is going to give the most useful intelligent feedback. - Carpy, on 11/20/2008, -0/+48This alpha is better than the current released version? Wow. Amazing.
- porl, on 11/20/2008, -2/+25yeah, you are so right. every time i boot one of my customised kernels (real time etc) i have to recompile every app i am about to use, because the kernel tells me it doesn't like the fact that open office wasn't compiled with the real time option enabed in the kernel.....
ok, i can't ***** any more. seriously, actually try using the system before spouting off that ***** nonsense. it just makes you look ignorant. i have gone through more kernels on this install than you have computers, and the ONLY thing i recompile regularly is my firewire audio stack and pro audio apps - and that is by choice, i could have still used the packaged versions of most things if i wanted to.
but at least you look smart by using "air quotes". congratulations. - YodaJones, on 11/20/2008, -0/+21I hope this is the beginning of more ports to Linux. I am dying to get a native Linux port of my Adobe Production Premium Suite. Then it's so long Windows for good!
- Kragnerac, on 11/20/2008, -0/+21...Now for a fully functioning 64-bit (insert software here) from (insert developer here).
- monzsca, on 11/20/2008, -4/+22Both of my vista machines are 64 bit.
- monzsca, on 11/20/2008, -0/+15I'm posting this from firefox, which has been running since the day 64 bit flash came out. While firefox running for 2 days may not sound impressive, previously I had to restart firefox at least 5 times a day because flash would stop working.
- dasunst3r, on 11/20/2008, -0/+15For those of you who are hesitant to upgrade, jump on in -- the water's fine.
- ACiDGRiM, on 11/20/2008, -7/+22Man is an ass for saying that an alpha programs will crash windows completely. Geez will you people stop hating on Windows, that may have been true 8 years ago (8 YEARS), but I've had Fedora hard crash on me that long ago. I use Vista for my day to day use and I love it for that. I use Linux CentOS for my personal server at home and i love it for that. I never have either OS crash to the point that I have to Hard power down, so It is completely pig headed for him to say that windows XP, or even Vista for that matter, is that unstable.
- Tollofsen, on 11/20/2008, -3/+17Yeah but how many of the applications you use are? Notepad, explorer.exe and?
- bipolarruledout, on 11/20/2008, -4/+18Might this actually be the first example of "pittyware" for an OS from a commercial software company?
- bipolarruledout, on 11/20/2008, -0/+14I have no idea how flash videos overtook the web so quickly.... it's really pretty amazing. I almost never see windows media or realvideo content anymore.... realplayer always sucked anyway.
- ploop, on 11/20/2008, -1/+15No.
- triplec110h, on 11/20/2008, -0/+13been using the new 64-bit flash alpha on ubuntu 8.10 intrepid ibex for a couple days now. it's been rock solid for me, whereas my previous flash forced me to have to restart firefox all the frickin time. this is extra special bonus brownie points for adobe from me. now they need to make some native adobe suite apps for linux, dangit!
- ileftfark, on 11/20/2008, -0/+13"Linux users have been begging for 64-bit Flash Player for months."
You're not kidding. I think Adobe did it for Linux first because we just wouldn't shut the ***** up about it. I feel bad for Mike Melanson, who maintains the Adobe Flash blog for Linux.
When Flash 10 came out, and supported V4L2, wmode, and had countless bugfixes, you think it would kind of placate the masses, right? Read the comments: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/10/flash_p ...
Just for fun, do a Ctrl+f for "64"... I feel bad for the dude, really. - sparcnut, on 11/20/2008, -1/+14Having to have a set of 32-bit libraries that a 32-bit browser can load at runtime, and having them be compatible with the 64-bit versions you use otherwise, qualifies as "messy crap" in my book.
- seedsofwar, on 11/20/2008, -0/+13because developers keep dragging their feet. quit holding us behind!
personally, i'm locked and loaded in 64 bit. - balaknair, on 11/20/2008, -0/+11Instructions on how to install 64 bit flash on Ubuntu can be found here
http://www.sharms.org/blog/?p=265
"...Now for a fully functioning 64-bit Java plugin from Sun."
Exactly. Native 64 bit Skype would be nice too. - bipolarruledout, on 11/20/2008, -1/+12That's actually a really good point but it would likely be more useful with source code.
- Agent_Orange, on 11/20/2008, -0/+11No, I haven't been waiting for months -- I've been waiting for 2 years -- ever since I bought a couple of 64-bit dual-core AMD Athlons, and installed 64-bit Debian Linux, and then found out what doesn't work in 64-bit mode.
- ldog, on 11/20/2008, -0/+11Much better.
64bit Firefox isn't randomly pausing anymore.
Also, sometimes 32bit flash + nspluginwrapper would pause and then fast forward video. This seems to have cleared that up. - inactive, on 11/20/2008, -1/+12Anpheus,
Hot tip, ignorant asses like yourself should keep their rants short.
if length of rant is N, then let Anpheus moronic level also equal N - clickwir, on 11/20/2008, -0/+10Download this: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplaye ...
Extract to here:
"Since the file needs to end up in the ~/.mozilla/plugins directory"
Close are reopen FireFox. Enjoy.
I must say, it's really nice. The flashplugin-nonfree that I was using with Kubuntu was slow to load and sometimes wouldn't load at all. This is much faster to load and so far has been able to load perfectly every time. So far, "it just works. And works really well. - rigwit, on 11/20/2008, -0/+10At long last, my Official Dilbert Widget just works on my Google homepage! Running 64-bit Linux had it's pit-falls but not any longer.
- sparcnut, on 11/20/2008, -1/+11Yes, but not if that source code is a sort of JIT compiler which generates machine code on the fly.
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -0/+9I have blue-screened Vista 5 times. Each time it was because of a hardware failure.
- int19h, on 11/20/2008, -0/+9Every open source application, including the kernel itself, can be compiled for both 32-bit and 64-bit, except a tiny minority. A similar feat can be done for other processors in the future. Don't tell me that isn't a lot cooler than Windows. :)
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -1/+10No more gray boxes! w00t!
- HorseloverFat8, on 11/20/2008, -1/+8I think they're too busy firing half their staff to save money.
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7Malware infestation while doing updates?
You're lieing. - Delta009, on 11/20/2008, -12/+19Probably because there isn't a big 64-bit market on Windows...
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7Finally now I can enjoy 64Bit
- etx313, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7As much as I would love for this to happen I don't believe it ever will.
- bipolarruledout, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7NT and everything based on it has NEVER allowed user mode processes into kernel space. There are plenty of other legitimate reasons for kernel crashes but this is not one of them.
- phybere, on 11/20/2008, -2/+9Agreed, they've gotten pretty good at not crashing the entire system.
You may have to restart to get things running smoothly again, but that's a bit different. - etx313, on 11/20/2008, -2/+8Waaah.
- int19h, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6If Adobe wants to compete against Java Applets/Java FX and Silverlight they need all the advantages they can get. Supporting 64-bit Linux is an advantage.
If they can say that Flash runs on all relevant platforms, that's a huge advantage over for instance Silverlight. - bipolarruledout, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6Keep waiting... they have a lot on their plate right now between OSX native 64-bit apps and of course windows 64.
- amfantasy, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6Java is Open Source, I thought they wrote one years ago. What the heck is Sun doing.
- jamesmcm, on 11/20/2008, -1/+7The difference is that in GNU/Linux most of the applications are Free Sodtware and so can be compiled into 64bit (there's normally already binaries available) whereas in Windows with your proprietary applications you are powerless and must beg the developers to improve their software.
Yet again the Free Software model > Proprietary software model - lopla, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6I love it, finally all my flash issues SOLVED it rocks!!
- FlaG8r, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6I won't be at peace until I have 64-bit Minesweeper
- bipolarruledout, on 11/20/2008, -4/+9Um... no. There *IS* a 32-bit copy of internet explorer for compatibility but that's it. Everything you see is third-party user apps, services, and tray processes. Microsoft is all about backward compatibility... always has been for the most part.
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Adobe has been making some very good decisions lately. I hope they keep it up.
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Basically, you're lieing. Why wouldn't anyone using the same Windows Updater have that problem?
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5CS4, Office.
That's like 30 programs. - nick1000, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Actually nobody really cares whether you are a MS Fanboy or a linux zealot ...
But woohoo to Adobe. Now if only there was a linux version of AIR. - Barackalypse, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Inyearstocome, its trivial to imbed an MMS stream, but I think you hit the real point when you said, "make difficult for the average user to download". This is about control of content, not usability.
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