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- Sammi84, on 10/21/2009, -1/+44(preemptive strike:)
Feel the need to post any outdated and non-valid criticism of Ubuntu? It's already answered here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CriticismFAQ
So go do your anti-Linux trolling and flaming somewhere else please.
Oh and I'm sooo looking forward to 9.10, seems like a good upgrade. OSX, Windows, and Linux are all really doing good releases this year. It's a good time to be a computer user :D - depro9, on 10/21/2009, -8/+44Windows caused me to stress out with all of it's continuing problems it has then on top of that I had to buy new hardware & a new OS/virus protection/application upgrades every few years. Running Ubuntu for the last 4 years I know ill live longer with less stress & more money in my pocket. Thank GNU! Happy 5 years Ubuntu...
- zaferk, on 10/21/2009, -9/+39Son of Bill Gates asks his father:
- Dad, I'd like to try to have sex, what should I do?
- That's simple, sonny. Just take the biggest car from my garage,
dress the best suit you have and take the girl into the most
deluxe restaurant in the town. Rent a horse chariot in the
evening and take her for a trip around the lake.
Buy her the biggest bunch of flowers you can buy.
Finally rent a president suite and she'll be yours.And that's all!
- But Dad! Where are the romantic walks, grazes, reading of
poetry in the moonlight, flirting ...
- My boy... all this was invented by the Linux folks so
that they can have sex for free. - darkchild, on 10/21/2009, -3/+29Ubuntu has definitely changed the Linux landscape. I agree with some of the points in the article, but disagree with others. Live discs and single cd installations already existed before Ubuntu. Think of the first Mepis and Knoppix releases, they were all single, installable live discs. Also time based releases were the norm in many distros except with Debian and a few others. I remember Redhat releasing roughly every six months and Mandrake/Mandriva doing the same. What Ubuntu did well was package and market Linux to the masses and build a strong community around their distro.
- fuzzynyanko, on 10/21/2009, -1/+24What caught me by a nice surprise is that Ubuntu's community wasn't full of people screaming RTFM N00B! So, whenever someone I know wants to try out a *nix system, I'd push them towards Ubuntu.
- DBeta, on 10/21/2009, -0/+22Although I agree that live discs were around well before Ubuntu, most "full feature" distros used install discs that numbered well into the 4-5 range. Installing Fedora or Mandrake was a real pain, and I burned through a lot of CDs when there was a fast release cycle(and no ability to do a rolling upgrade). Ubuntu really refined the process, and everyone took notice. It is fair, however, to say that the 1 disc live CD installer was just an idea whos time had come, and Ubuntu fell in the right time to do it.
I'm very happy with how far Ubuntu(and Linux in general) has come over these 5 years. 9.10 looks to be a fantastic LTS that will hold up its entire lifespan, unlike many of the past releases. Also, my bluetooth works right on 9.10, so that's fantastic! - Phate8263, on 10/21/2009, -1/+23Ubuntu has definitely done its part to bring Linux to the mainstream.
I love that more and more I see programs offering 3 versions of their programs, Windows, OS X, and Ubuntu Linux. This simply was not the case five years ago. Most ignored Linux altogether, and if they did offer something, it was a source tar.gz . People can defend their camps all they want, but a single unified install platform (deb) and popular distro (Ubuntu) to market to will encourage more companies to actually produce linux products.
Heres to the next five years. - themusicalduck, on 10/21/2009, -3/+24I love the fact that you don't need latest hardware to run Ubuntu. My 5 year old computer runs Ubuntu so well that, even though I've considered it, I can't justify spending money on upgrading it. I realised that it runs well enough already. I might be thinking differently if I had only ever used Vista instead.
- TheWindBlows, on 10/21/2009, -0/+16Big note for Tech people. GRUB2 can boot ISO images off flash drives.
- Sammi84, on 10/21/2009, -0/+15@FormerBabby
You shouldn't need anti-virus software at all. An OS should be designed to be secure from the ground up. XP is old and unsecure. - ponzihoff, on 10/21/2009, -3/+16Kanye Notify: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SO6YabVJPig/Srgddw_xAZI/ ...
- themusicalduck, on 10/21/2009, -2/+15In my experience, XP gets reeeeally slow over time. Also most software that I used on XP seemed to be pretty bloated and didn't run particularly well.
Besides who wants to use XP anymore? It's ugly and so old now.. - manstein01, on 10/21/2009, -1/+12Too bad HP just ditched selling their Mi Linux netbooks :-( Kudos to the vendors who will support Linux.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/21/2009, -0/+11This is a good week for operating systems :)
First Windows 7 and then Ubuntu 9.10, time to reformat everything and start over. Both sides of fanboys will complain (Windows 7 is stupid, Ubuntu is stupid, Mac for all, whatever) but truth is both OS'es are great upgrades from previous versions and I can't wait to dual-boot them. - Thuktun, on 10/21/2009, -0/+11Also, XP with less than 512 MB is an absolute dog.
- MattBD, on 10/21/2009, -0/+10I think half of the reason Ubuntu is popular is because it has a friendly and hepful community, rather than any more technical reason.
- LostSoul83, on 10/21/2009, -0/+10Ubuntu is my salvation from the OS with the DRM malware infestation!
- manstein01, on 10/21/2009, -0/+9Isn't 10.04 going to be the next LTS release? I am pretty sure 9.10 will be a standard release.
- zip000, on 10/21/2009, -0/+8You must be new here.
- javaroast, on 10/21/2009, -1/+8@zip00 please don't start with the obscurity mythology. It is simply inaccurate. With the number of servers running linux there is a huge incentive to hack linux. And it is being hacked. Put a linux system unsecured on the internet and you will see the hack attempts rolling in.
You are correct that no OS is perfectly secure, but completely inaccurate in the rest of your comment. - DBeta, on 10/21/2009, -0/+7Seems you are right. Hmm, I though it was 9.10. Oh well, 9.10 is a great release none the less.
- pak314, on 10/21/2009, -1/+8Even better Ubuntu 9.10 is coming in eight days!
- MrChunks, on 10/21/2009, -4/+112010. Year of Linux. I guarantee it. You heard it first here!
- rangah, on 10/22/2009, -0/+7zip000: GNU/Linux users don't routinely download and run random binaries from untrusted sources. If you're going to install an application, chances are, you will use your distro's package manager. It's not just the architecture of the system or the 'obscurity' of it (which is BS, GNU/Linux is everywhere) that makes it less prone to bad-ware, it's the actual operation of it.
The only code running on my machine that I'm not absolutely sure of is the nvidia driver, and I have a feeling it's ok.
(But I don't live in the dark either, I'm routinely brute-force attacked by compromised linux hosts all running ssh servers with insecure passwords that have been taken over. No amount of security can make up for a truly ***** admin.) - T8erT0T, on 10/21/2009, -2/+8I like your style Zaferk.
- Son of Bill Gates asks his father, "Dad, I'd like to have sex, what should I do?"
- That's simple. Just head downtown and find one of those flashy broads in the Windows that sell themselves for $199, or $299, or $399--depending on if you wanna get done by a real "pro." Or, you can go to the sketchy part of town where the girls have been "altered" and it's sort of the same, but you might get the clap like most of the Pirates that screw with them do.
- Sounds pretty dangerous Dad. I've heard people can do it for free though...
- Yeah, well we all can't be good looking and popular son!
- jaytek13, on 10/21/2009, -0/+5Mine works fine out of the box with Ubuntu... not sure what your issue is, but it appears to be user related.
I do realize there are some problems with some distributions, but since this article is specifically talking about Ubuntu, I think we should just stick to it. - Almightymole, on 10/21/2009, -0/+5I personally find the proprietary driver manager a little confusing, seeing as it is labeled in the menu as 'Hardware Drivers'. Which to me suggests to me that it is used for all hardware drivers in use on the system. If they had a Device manager which included this functionality would be good.Along with mechanisms for automatically checking for on-line for non-proprietary drivers for unknown devices and new versions of drivers. Obviously would be useful seeing as space on a CD finite. This would of saved my some time downloading and compiling drivers for my tablet PC's tablet. Windows does this to a certain extend and I think would help Ubuntu become 'more human'.
Software centre however I think is a excellent step forward. Unifying the Software mechanisms should reduce menu clutter a little at least. - explodingzebras, on 10/21/2009, -0/+5XP is very old now.
And just try running Windows 7 on a pentium 3 laptop with 850mhz, 256mb ram, which is one of my main laptops atm. Or even a 700mhz P3 with 192mb ram, both these systems run current ubuntu releases. - ghostborg, on 10/21/2009, -0/+5I will miss after not turning on my Vista machine for two weeks and waiting for the indexing, scanning, updating from Windows, Anti-virus, Adobe, Java, HP, reboots. Then after an hour or two the machine is usable.
- Spirods, on 10/21/2009, -2/+6Ubuntu is one word away from mainstream:Games, i mean screw the look thats were the money s at
- OrbitalsFear, on 10/22/2009, -0/+4Windows is killing itself without any help from anyone.
- linuxpenguin, on 10/22/2009, -0/+4Uh-huh. And Windows worked right out of the box with your solid state drive? My guess is that you either didn't do a fresh install, or you had to use a driver disk.
Also - just because you have "common and standard parts" doesn't mean you have well-supported parts. Nobody said it was perfect either.
Not to mention - just because YOU had a bad experience doesn't mean everyone else did. - oobuntu, on 10/21/2009, -1/+5unlike MS, Linux doesn't slow down with age! no need for reformats...especially not your /home partition!
- miaow, on 10/22/2009, -0/+4ubuntu made linux a credible option for the ordinary users.
- taibo, on 10/22/2009, -0/+3Actually PC gaming revenues in 2008 were $11 billion, which is more than any other console or portable.
http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/03/23/new-report- ... - JuanDCope, on 10/21/2009, -1/+4Now if only Alsa &/or OSS would work with Intel HDA sound, Linux would be perfect!
- JuanDCope, on 10/21/2009, -0/+3Will do, but it's specific to Ubuntu in that Ubuntu has the same problem with Alsa & OSS as every other distro. (At least in my experience)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+b ...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&am ...
That was just a lazy google search. You get over 250 results on the Ubuntu support forum. If you follow any of them for any length of time, you'll notice it's never resolved; people just get sick of being ignored or messing with it.
All of that said, I've been using Linux at home since 1998. - waspbr, on 10/21/2009, -0/+3who said anything about it being a panacea?
- Phate8263, on 10/21/2009, -2/+5https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CriticismFAQ
Since apparently you missed the above post. - linuxpenguin, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2"Why would anyone invest in a graphics card that costs as much as a whole 360?"
Because they already need/want a PC, and they can get better graphics than they would with the 360.
Also - PC gaming is NOT dying. Not at all. For the most part, consoles are popular for two reasons: 1. you don't have to know anything about what sort of setup you've got, and 2. it's easy to let two people on the same console play together or against each other - so they're nice for parties.
People have said PC gaming is dying for QUITE some time now. But within that time, we've seen The Orange Box (particularly TF2 and Portal) and Left 4 Dead get great ratings; we've seen games being ported to consoles as an afterthought, only after the success of the PC versions; we've seen online stores like Steam, Amazon, and others selling games (even some for-pay monthly services like GameTap); we've seen people falling in love with Flash games, even to the point of building entire websites around them (such as Kongregate); we've seen people get addicted to little online games on Facebook and other sites; we've seen that people are willing to pay a monthly fee to play games like WoW. . . PC gaming is NOT dying. It may be changing, but it's NOT dying.
Also. . . controllers are better for when you aren't depending so much on precision - like an RTS or an RPG. They might be OK for FPSes, but they're certainly not better unless you're just not used to the feel of the mouse. - Phate8263, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2@taibo
"and realized it can't do anything windows can"
The faq is about misinformation spread about Ubuntu by trolls. Not genuine concerns. - MrRtd, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2"can't do anything windows can" - now that is too funny.
I must have some sort of lucky streak when it comes to using Ubuntu/Kubuntu and other Linux distributions, as I've been able to do everything that I do on Windows. Of course I have to admit I'm not a gamer so I've avoided that problem. I wouldn't buy another computer with Windows on it. The last one I bought, I kept Vista but I never have any real reason to log into it = wasted money. - theaceoffire, on 10/22/2009, -1/+3Window's Vista & 7 Hardware requirements:
25GB of Harddrive Space
1GB (2GB prefered) Ram
Dual Core Processor
Video card (128MB, 256MB Prefered)
Ubuntu Hardware requirements
8GB of Harddrive Space
256MB of Ram
700MHz Processor or higher
So yeah, you *do* need the latest hardware to run windows, and you can use old stuff for Linux. - explodingzebras, on 10/21/2009, -1/+3its good looking http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1140666/ubuntu-904-desk ...
- linuxpenguin, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2I think they're inching closer with their new Ubuntu Software Center. There ARE games for Linux - there just aren't nearly as many, and they aren't sold in stores. The Software Center will fill a gap between the publishers willing to make Linux games and the people willing to buy them by offering a store interface - from what I understand it'll be like Steam in a way. It'll at least give you a better view of what IS available for Linux.
- XeroXenith, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2cmost (mostly) speaks the truth - this isn't going to magically kill Windows, and Ubuntu has a rather long way to go before people have a real incentive to switch.
But this is a good thing - Canonical's support contracts have to grow along with the distro's quality and userbase, which will take a long time. Otherwise, the repos would be underfunded and deadly slow. - RPGmaster, on 10/22/2009, -1/+3"Now we're closing out the first decade of the 2000s, and Linux's desktop marketshare is still measured in less than 1%."
Actually, we're at 4%
Also, that dude was crazy to say Linux was doing that good back then, now its actually possible! - renegadeafk, on 10/23/2009, -0/+2I am talking about vista and windows 7. the requirements I posted are for win7, the guy above is blatantly posting misleading info and I got dugg down for it.
You to not need a high spec pc in the slightest to run windows 7 or windows vista. - XeroXenith, on 10/22/2009, -1/+3What an oddly named boyfriend...
- taibo, on 10/22/2009, -1/+2Uh, he's not criticizing it, he's describing the actual problems he's had with it. What does the CriticismFAQ have to do with Ubuntu detecting solid state drives?
The whole idea behind Ubuntu is to be user- and newbie-friendly, not to tell people to go RTFFAQ. -
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