What is Digg?68 Comments
- joeyjojo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17We really need a way to mark articles that have dead links as such. It's a pain to click through 20 articles from the home page only to find half of them dead.
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Why? It's proven, it's a good model with nice network features that GDI+ and Quartz Extreme don't support, it's getting hardware acceleration, all the major libraries and applications support it, it's an open standard (so you can choose your own X server), and it works just fine.
Just because it's an old technology doesn't mean it's bad. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! - davertron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I agree, I think it would be really helpful to be able to tell if the link is dead. However, I'm not entirely sure how'd you implement this. I mean, I guess you could have people mark a link as dead, the same way we digg articles now, but that wouldn't necessarily be a real-time stat on the link. You'd almost have to have something polling the site to see if it was up, and this is traffic that most people would think was unnecessary because it would just be using up bandwidth. Maybe someone out there has a good idea about how to do this though.
- camiller, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8And yet ironically it is clicking through to those articles that causes the servers to keel over. chicken ==> egg ==> chicken ==> repeat
What they really need to do is automatically turn the links into corel cache links at the time the article is submitted. - quink, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Lots of really good ideas for GNOME. This is exactly what GNOME needs. KDE too!
- PirateFSM, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11He's dead Jim.
- Ahnteis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No, you need 2 chickens to get an egg. :P
- wysiwia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Here is another suggestion for a better desktop, see http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/54009/index.html
- davertron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I really like the "virtual folder" concept or labels or whatever you want to call it, but trying to explain that to my Mom would just be a headache waiting to happen. I agree though in general; a lot of things give you too many options that are really unnecessary.
- durandal2005, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@tapo: Isn't that what libnotify is for?
- diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31 suggestion: Get a mac http://www.apple.com/switch
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I agree, a lot of these things are brilliantly simple and easy to implement, and agree with everything this guy says.
I only wish instead of Rhymbox displaying one type of notification and evolution displaying another, they'd all use a common framework that allowed you to display it in a certain way, like Growl (growl.info) on Macs. - CaptRR, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Your kidding right?
- leszek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6lots of good ideas
- epohs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes, indeed.
I hope the Gnome folks are paying attention. - oboreruhito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Tried them, work with them daily. Love them. Can't afford them.
Penny ain't droppin' on a Mac I'd like but don't need before I pay my rent, food, debt, car note or insurance, kiddo. - kstagg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I've since learned that the easiest way to 'crash' a site is to "digg it". Not digg's fault - just that a lot of servers out there can't hack it when it comes to high traffic.
I know, I know - let's digg American Idol's website! - benguri, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Ireland. Fantastic spelling and grammar!
Can't see the site, but for my 2 pence, I run 2 desktops in Gnome (one for "scratch" and 1 for "main")...other than that I *must have* Deskbar...lucky it's included in 2.14...never really got on with KDE.
And Windows, while it seemed intuitive because I'd *had* to use ut for so many years, was a pretty good desktop environment (not really used Apple)...but once I realised I could do all I want with a decent Linux install and subsequently virus-checked my Windows partition (despit all precautions, or so I thought!), played with KDE and Gnome....I realised Gnome was it....
Can't wait to see what the original article is about ;) - atomicwedgie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Could you people stop visiting the site for a little while so I can see it? *grin*
I too prefer KDE but any education on any interface is knowledge gained. - kidlinux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1davertron,
would it be easier to explain to your mom how to organize documents with labels, than it would be to explain to her how to navigate a file system? Given any OS right now, I think the latter is far more complicated. - Akira, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I totally agree with almost everything stated in this article. Fully incorporating many of these suggestions would probably make Linux a really more desktop ready environment. In fact it would surpass windows for ease of use with new users.
- thejadedmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Mirror's dead.
- Elsan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1tapo,
The saying should be changed for open-source technologies or apps(or completely maybe :P ). It should be "If it ain't broke, then improve it!". That's the way to go! If not, we'd still be stuck with CDE! - jagger2097, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This removes the ability of the user to organize their own data as they see fit. I store all of my files in a central location so I can access it from any of my computers (Mac, Linux, Windows, and via a web front end). To implement this setup with your idea you would have to make the walled garden for files be on the server and then write drivers for this file system for each and every OS on the planet.
While I don't think that the ability to search meta-data to find files is a great addition, this isn't the way to do it. Creating a "My Documents" like folder and setting it as the default save location is enough to keep things simple without limiting the ability for real work to be done. Beagle will allow for quick recall of files while not making your data completely inaccessible to 3rd party programs. - anagami, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Nautilus should change a lot before GNOME can be considered a really usable user interface...
- RobGamble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Arrrgh!! Cache is dead! Maybe Digg should pre-cache article contents. At least they have the bandwidth.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Why? It's proven, it's a good model with nice network features that GDI+ and Quartz Extreme don't support"
Network transparency. Name another feature, and you win a prize. But, let's be honest here, who actually uses the full potential network transparency built into X11 today? Nobody? Yeah I figured as much.
"it's getting hardware acceleration"
And its hardware acceleration subsystem is still completely lacking in good drivers, not to mention it's the most convoluted system anyone has ever dreamed up. If you don't believe me, go look at it for 10 minutes. An image has to jump through no fewer than 5 pieces of software in order to be hardware accellerated (except for OpenGL, which manages to only have to squeak through 2 software layers, inline with OS X.). Also, badly needed options are /not/ available in X11, and are having to be added on through extensions, half of which aren't paid enough attention in order to become useful on modern video cards.
It's old. It's under supported. It's a beast to maintain. It doesn't have unified Window Management (so that all WMs would be inter-compatible). It doesn't have unified CLIPBOARD MANAGEMENT (come ON, why the hell does X11 have to have an external Clipboard manager so that two different GUI toolkits can share a clipboard? This is day one Desktop Operating System design stuff these days!!!!). It doesn't have a unified, abstractable widgeting system (thusly making Widgets extremely easy to define and code and insure would run on any system, see OS X, in particular NSView and its absolute elegance).
It wouldn't even be particularly hard to do, and the major toolkits could be transitioned in a years time (just look at SkyOS and their non-X11 GUI system that runs GNOME/GTK+ apps beautifully). Furthermore, a translation layer could be coded to backward support X11 applications (though I doubt anyone would ever use it, see Apple's X11 implementation). Middleware could be developed to allow applications coded in either API dialect to run with pratically any Widgeting engine, and would truly seperate API from execution, and allow anyone to write applications in any dialect they knew, and let natural selection kill off the inferior one. But these things can't happen without a bottom-up revisit of the Linux desktop environment, and that has to start at an overhaul of X11.
*sigh*. Back to my inconsistant Linux file open/save dialog life. - tarouszars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I actually quite like the way OS X does it. Your default save dialog is just a spot for a name, and a little triangle. Save and forget. Or if you do wanna control where your files go then hit the triangle and browse your filesystem at your leisure.
- Tripmoneyuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1some good suggestions but.. The part about opening archive files like folders is a very bad idea. WinXP uses this & everyone that I know get's confused by it.
New users don't seem to realise, that it's not a normal folder & try to run programs from directly within the zip file without extracting first. Then they can't figure out why the program doesn't work.
Nobody has this problem when using a zip manager. - molecule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Re: "Pivot... Gnome lacks easy way..."
gnome-randr-applet works great in Ubuntu. very easy to use.
39... - Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1More like a wishlist then anything, no DIGG for wishful thinking.
- LeDopore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Try http://chabada.sk.nyud.net:8090/better-desktop/ with 8090, not 8080.
- Raveren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It took quite awhile to load, but it did. And sadly (for me) this article is linux specific...
- kidlinux, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7The best thing any desktop designer could do is make the decisions for the user.
For example, when saving a document, don't present them with a load of poorly organized and poorly maintained directories. Save the file to some arbitrary location, don't tell the user where (because it's not important where the document is on the filesystem.) Then, allow the user to categorize their documents much like the "labels" system that gmail uses to sort mail.
Don't give the user too many options, if any at all. Present them with a system, and say "this is how it works." - Jomwilli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Awesome list. Maybe the M$, Apple, and Red Hat crue will take heed of some of these together?
- tehJR, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Coral cache needs the link to be up to get it first. The first people to get to a story need to access it using CDN, and then we'd all be ok.
of course this won't work with databases, Google maps, etc - towsonu2003, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3lot's of nice ideas. and the writer uses ubuntu (so? ubuntu devs can take advantage of that)
- Shish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Mute also means pause." pretty much sums up what the guy's suggestions are like...
- teprrr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Works fine with KDE's package kioslaves and at least I like it. If I want to check out what the archive contains I can just open it in Konqueror and drag'n'drop files if I want to do so. Sure some people prefer external archiving applications for extracting too, but I like the way KDE handles it.
- DennisLaumen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Could you be more specific about this?
I know it's a little thin on features but that really makes it easy to use. If you want to expand it's functionality you could always use nautilus-actions. - jainer123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I finally got in...and it was stuff that he wanted to improve for the future...not that i can do...Sigh. Back to learning about 2.14.
- DennisLaumen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In my opinion GNOME has already surpassed Windows in usability. I am talking about day to day usability not the advanced management of the system which often requires you to jump into the terminal.
I have ported several "senior citizens" to Ubuntu and they all praise the ease of use of the system. In my humble opinion people who say Windows is easier to use are too attached to Windows. They expect everything to go the "Windows-way", not realizing it is not necessarily the best way. - DennisLaumen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Don't get me wrong Mac's are great and a whole lot better than Windows-boxes (IMHO) but I really prefer using open source software. I am more productive on GNOME in comparison to Mac OS X as well.
Another con on the Mac is that there doesn't seem to be enough good free software.
UPDATE: I am typing this on a powerbook ;) - minuo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ Ahnteis
at least if you want another chicken ;) - snypa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1dead link
- laszlocu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0wait wait wait... it's really time for digg to have sth like mirrordot
- davertron, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Need a mirror, and fast...
- anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I love how some people just proclaim that others should just "Go buy a Mac", as if we're all made of money. Hey, if you want to buy me a Mac I'll gladly accept the gift. Until then, STFU.
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3http://chabada.sk.nyud.net:8080/better-desktop/
- ericesque, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Wait... if I repeat
chicken==>egg ==>chicken
then I get:
chicken, egg, chicken, chicken, egg, chicken, chicken, egg, chicken....
I thought EVERY chicken came from an egg-- not every other chicken.... is it just me? -
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