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2007 Desktop Linux Survey results revealed

desktoplinux.com — According to DesktopLinux.com's just completed survey, the number of Desktop Linux users has more than doubled in the past year, and Ubuntu remains their Linux distribution of choice. Of significance, Ubuntu's growing prominence has made GNOME surpass KDE as the most popular desktop environment.

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  • iFungus, on 10/10/2007, -25/+19GNOME all the way!
    • SuperWinner, on 10/10/2007, -11/+5I used to like KDE because it looked more like windows. Now I realize, thats a bad thing.
      • potp, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2i am a windows fan who is slutting around with ubuntu and thats exactly how i feel. thats why i stuck with gnome.
    • Meep3D, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2?

      Gnome is _exactly_ the same as windows too, its just they shuffled the elements after they copied it. It's just split onto two bars, thus wasting 2x the screen space. It even has a 'show desktop button'. The thing that really gives it away is the quicklaunch (or whatever Linuxers call it) and the fact it has a web browser and POP3 mail client there. I questioned the original MS decision to include a link to OE on their quicklaunch as very few people actually use it - most people use webmail. It's an especially bad design decision on a LiveCD based distro too. If they were thinking rather than copying they would have put something more useful there, like a link to Synaptic, or even the terminal.

      Seriously if you spend two minutes moving the elements around it looks exactly like Windows.
      • weizbox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3yea.. its funny.. Gnome is customizable enough that you can make it look like Windows.. but getting Windows to look like gnome would be a pain in the ass.

        Vista makes it even worse by not allowing the users to drag toolbars out of the taskbar.... retarded
      • Meep3D, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Gnome is functionaly identical to Windows. You couldn't get OSX to behave like Windows without a serious amount of work (and even then it would be hard). This is because it is totally different. Gnome is the same as Windows, just with the features split onto two bars - I have no idea how this passes for originality and innovation.
  • DracoFlameus, on 10/10/2007, -11/+14Ubuntu ftw! :D
    • xspinkickx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6technically its debian for the win, that 44% of people using debian. Remember without debian there would not be ubuntu. my distro of choice is ubuntu however give credit where its due. However that being said without ubuntu, debian and debian based distros would not be as popular as it is.
      • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1How different is Debian from Ubuntu? I was under the impression Ubuntu was Debian with a lot of stuff preinstalled. What's it really like?
        • kuyman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3I really despise this comment system.

          Digg me down, if you will, please. :)
        • kuyman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Debian is rather spartan under the standard config, so you're right in that way. However Ubuntu adds a lot of improvements on Debian other than more preinstalled software, making it feel like a better experience all in all (better wifi support until this last version, better hardware support through dell's cooperation). Ubuntu also ships with a slightly different kernel compilation than Debian does.
          • weizbox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1'...better hardware support through dell's cooperation'

            Dell is developing hardware drivers? When did this start? link?
        • kazamx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Even though I use ubuntu, I donate money to debian. I feel that way I am not only helping debian by also Ubuntu and all the other distros based off Debian and Ubuntu. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling :-)
      • Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1debian != ubuntu

        Yes, they both use dpkg and apt, yes, in fact, their repositories are nearly identical (there is a lot of cooperation), but they're not the same thing kuyman mentions that the default configuration, choice of preinstalled software, and kernel are all different (note that debian binaries aren't guaranteed to work on ubuntu and vice versa). That said, it's totally true that without debian, ubuntu wouldn't exist (or would be based on a different distro), and DEBIAN DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT, but again, they're not the same thing.
    • postaldave, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2SPAMbuntu effect.
  • CATSCEO, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Awesome :)
  • dweeb79, on 10/10/2007, -7/+9I bought Ubuntu for Non Geeks 2nd Edition. Two days ago. The book is a little light on the stuff I really need like installing via command line along with all those packages that need to be gotten with the program I want to install. I already wish I had the .exe that windows so easily provides.

    My goal is to make it 30 days .... So far I'm still busting a nut over beryl. (Yes I'm a nub)
    • tylerjames, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8what are you trying to install?

      for almost everything you just have to open synaptic, search for the thing you want, right click on it "Mark for Installation" then click "Install" and you're good to go

      no pushing "Next" 50 times, no EULA
      • dweeb79, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I was playing with pidgin, today I noticed a new verison came out so I used the source since I reinstalled today after work. I did the source using ./configure and it said missing yada yada so I went through synaptic manager and installed them. Everything went smooth and I was all proud of myself till it came to running MSN Messenger. It said I needed to SSL support, I went back and installed a ton of em and couldn't find it.
        • Gavagai80, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I've been using Linux for 7 years and I still never compile software -- tried many years ago and found it full of headaches, but I realized I had no real reason for trying. As a newbie, you're making things much harder than they need to be by doing so... there's never a real need to compile, compiling is for advanced people who like to run unstable versions.
        • kazamx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1A good rule of thumb is that if you need to compile it, its only for experts.

          As someone brand new to Linux just stick with Synaptic for now. You have alot to learn, don't try getting involved with the pro stuff until you have been on linux awhile. I have been using Linux for about 2 years and never compile anything, too hard and the software is unstable or tends to be. I just wait for it to appear in synaptec
        • cynicist, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I find most software very easy to compile. Just ./configure prefix=/usr, make, and sudo make install. The hard part is finding missing dependencies, especially on distributions that aren't up to date.
          • weizbox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1With Gentoo it's even easier sometimes since all you need is an ebuild... which can be made quite easily if you want to do a custom job, and may already exist for whatever the application is that your trying to install. Lots of Gentoo overlays have ebuilds for packages that get the source right from svn/cvs too if you'd like to really go bleeding edge.
      • Malachai, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You can install Pidgin by downloading .deb packages from http://www.getdeb.net . They're kind of like .exe files. If it's not in Synaptic, I try getdeb.net, and then I try google to see if anyone has a precompiled deb (or a repository).
        • kazamx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Be very careful when adding repos from sources you don't know. There are bad men out there who like to mess up your computer.
        • marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0@kaza - I believe getdeb.net can be trusted :)
        • MeneerR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Getdeb is pretty safe!
          1. it doesn't use its ports of libraries. it just refers to standard ubuntu libraries

          2. the version and name is such that by default you will always upgrade within ubuntu as soon as they have the new version as well (this is the Right Way (tm)). This offcourse only happens with backports and distrobution updates.

          3. It's not a repository. You install, you try. Doesn't work? You remove it. It doesn't get updated automatically. (well, unless ubuntu starts backporting it, but then the getdeb version will just be removed)


          Worst case scenario: after a distrobution update a getdeb program _not_ part of ubuntu will stop working because it's incompatible with newer libraries. This should be fixed by downloading the latest version from getdeb.net



    • phidelt930, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3my friend, here is all you need to know about installing from the command line:
      to find something you want: sudo apt-cache search "whatever you are searching for"
      to install it: sudo apt-get install "whatever you want to install"

      or just use Synaptic under System -> Administration
      • pooptaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I don't use Ubuntu or any Debian distro, but I am pretty confident you don't need administrative rights to search the apt cache. You don't need the sudo there.
        • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I just tried it and you're right. User rights are sufficient.
    • WhereAmI, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4http://www,ubuntuguide.org

      All you need, dweeb79.
      • dweeb79, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Thanks it appears that could be more helpful then this book. This book at page 120 is going over background images and that is not what I want at this stage. I want to use programs hehe :P The ultra basic stuff like colors and background image is easy its everything else that makes an OS.

        Much appreciated
      • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1http://www.ubuntguide.com

        Your link has a typo.
      • WhereAmI, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It did have a typo:
        http://www.ubuntuguide.org

        it is .org, not com though
    • Shootfast, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Ubuntu's ".exe" is a ".deb", and they're what are downloaded through synaptic or apt-get
      • marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sort of. ".deb" packages are more like Windows MSI installers. Linux, rightly enough, doesn't depend on file extensions to tell it what sort of file it is. It uses the content of the actual file to figure that out.
    • Malachai, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4getdeb.net, search for pidgin.

      I know I made the comment above, but I had comment trouble....I don't know WHAT I did.)
    • jcarlock, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2If you really need to ask a question, my user + 105@gmail.com. I'll give you some free 1-1 help.
  • phidelt930, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21I am no fanboy but I am running ubuntu on three of my machines here, there is definitely a reason ubuntu is so popular - sudo apt-get install ANYTHING YOU FREAKIN WANT... amazing! Setting up a network drive using ssh, built into Gnome... amazing! Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera... I know some of you jaded people may not be very impressed but I think ubuntu is the best thing to happen to desktop linux since... well... ok maybe I am a little bit of a fanboy :P
    • ShogunWarPig, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I completely agree, even though ive been using various distros over the past two years, when I switched to Feisty Fawn mid-summer I was HOOKED. Ubuntu is just elegant. Although the reason may be that this is the first computer that I am able to run Compiz-Fusion on, which is the most awesome thing ever.

      Anyone know whats going on with the Compiz-Fusion repositories lately if your also having problems?
      • Malachai, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I too am having problems. I believe they're revamping the settings manager.
      • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yup. I lost all my key bindings among other settings. The worst thing is I can't figure out how to make new key-bindings in Compiz Fusion. The Gnome/Metacity ones don't work. Anyone know how?
    • benanzo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I'm an Ubuntu fanboy as well, but it's important to realize that APT isn't an Ubuntu creation, nor is GNOME virtual filesystems. There is so much wonderful technology in Free software that it's often hard for distros to make decisions on software/solutions for users who have no idea what they want or even how to go about finding out what they want. That's why, frankly, Ubuntu and GNOME are so popular. They both make decisions to implement, extend and support a limited amount of concrete solutions that "Just Work." Of course, the more enterprising user can always do whatever they want. Ubuntu and GNOME's ease-of-use and functionality is why Dell is selling them. Most-all technology in Ubuntu can be directly attributed to a over a decade of volunteer Debian development. They deserve the credit. Ubuntu just ties it all together and wraps it up with a bow on top and makes it ready to rumble. This is why Free software works. Even now it never ceases to amaze me.
      • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Ubuntu is essentially Debian. Prior to Ubuntu, Red Hat, Suse, and derivatives were the top Linux distro's. Thanks to Ubuntu, Debian-based distro's are now much more popular. And Gnome is the most popular desktop.
        • Jorophose, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Which is very good news for GNOME lovers. Before that, only Red Hat and Fedora pushed it exclusively. (SUSE used KDE) And yes, we knows, Kubuntu, etc. but Kubuntu is not as popular as vanilla Ubuntu, and though they contribute a ton back to KDE, Ubuntu has had a bigger effect on GNOME than Kubuntu on KDE.
    • weizbox, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1'here is definitely a reason ubuntu is so popular - sudo apt-get install ANYTHING YOU FREAKIN WANT... amazing!
      Pretty much any popular distro, or even some custom ones built on more popular ones have access to large repositories... this really is not something unique to Ubuntu.

      'Setting up a network drive using ssh, built into Gnome... amazing! '
      Thats exactly right... it's Gnome... not much to do with Ubuntu.

      Does the 'Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera' also contain features present on most distros? Come on now.. Ubuntu does have some good features like the simple install and some of the other custom gui elements they have added... but don't say you love it for reasons that are present in the majority of distros. =P
  • ptFoe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Nince Gnome & Thunderbird, hopefully this will send a signal to the money whores @ Mozilla to increase resources in Thunderbird & its Calendar project.
    • WhereAmI, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Lightning? Thunderbirds calender add on.
      OR
      Mozilla Sunbird, Mozillas calender program.

      Anyway the "money whores @ Mozilla" support what people want. What more do you want in Thunderbird? Extensions? Skins? Make them! Also tell everyone you know to drop Outlook and use Thunderbird. I have Outlook 2008 on my school laptop (from school) and it is a very nice program. Good luck with that. I use Thunderbird for my home PC, though.
    • bobcrotch, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Exchange + Thunderbird = lose.

      Sorry I like thunderbird and firefox as much as the next person, but when functionality comes into play you can't really argue.
    • benanzo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Evolution does Exchange like a pro.
  • daradib, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Jpeg images for the charts? Use PNG instead for the charts. (Or SVGs).
    • antdude, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Or GIF.
    • kuyman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1SVGs, while wonderful, aren't supported in some browsers still. Think of the compatibility!
      • Jorophose, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0All browsers worth a damn (Opera, Firefox, Konqueror/Safari, etc.) have support for (albeit basic) SVG. ;)
  • williebee, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5If you have only tried Ubuntu give PCLinuxOS a try.
    I like it better and it also uses apt-get/cache.
    Elive is cool too.
    • NJank, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I use it too. But it'll never make it. the name is too esoteric. No one will have any idea what it is...
      • oldgeek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The name is really the only problem. I use it on my laptop because the wireless works right off the bat with no problems.
    • ardklg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I agree wholeheatedly. Where Ubuntu/Kubuntu would not easily install in the partition I wanted, and I never could get the wireless in my old eMachines laptop to work, PCLinuxOS 2007 handled both tasks with ease.

      Nothing against Ubuntu - if it works for you, great. But PCLinuxOS is the distro that is convincing me I can make the switch from Windows as my primary OS, and simply run a virtual Win2K machine for the few apps that don't yet have an equal in Linux (Photoshop CS, CorelDraw, CoolEdit Pro).
      • Jorophose, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Photoshop "CS1" runs under Wine. (Wasn't sure what version you specified) As for CorelDraw, I think so too, and why the hell would you want "CoolEdit"; more shareware editors? Just learn emacs or vim, you'll love it. (And if not, use leafpad/mousepad)
  • casinocasinos, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I use Linux Knoppix sometimes.
  • bleep1912, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1nvm
  • mithrasinvictus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3FTA "30 percent of our survey respondents are using Ubuntu or one of its sister distributions: Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu."
    Kubuntu is KDE,so 30% "Ubuntu" users does not mean these 30% are all gnome users.
    • Chandon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Right. Hence why they separately asked about desktop environment in the survey.
  • boot20, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2Man screw Gnome and KDE, I use Fluxbox. Ubuntu is great, but they gimped security with the way they do sudo and they have some cheesy stuff that really irritates me.

    On that note, it's a great desktop distro for the uninitiated, but not so much of the Linux gurus.
    • bobcrotch, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Fluxbox does own...
      • pooptaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0dwm/wmii own all. I like openbox better than fluxbox anyway.
    • Chandon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3As a Linux guru (started with Debian 10 years ago) who runs Ubuntu, I'm not entirely sure what you have against the sudo security model. For a desktop system, it's a pretty damn good solution. As for desktop environments versus simple window managers, I can personally live with a file manager taking over my root window. I've got the RAM and I'm not really using that window for anything else.
  • ren1999, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12I'm a KDE fan. Gnome just looks ugly to me.
    • jhodapp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I guess to each his/her own, that's a big reason why I don't like KDE, it's ugly. :)
    • iJump, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3There's always Kubuntu (and Xubuntu for those people who have older systems like I do)

      http://www.kubuntu.org/
      http://www.xubuntu.org/
    • oobuntu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I expect the high use of Gnome is due to the ubuntu effect. Shame that these people might not ever try KDE.
      Also I wonder what the split Gnome/KDE split is between US/Europe? I reckon continental europe uses KDE more heavily.
    • Jorophose, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2oobuntu, KDE is more or less based in Germany; that's where it was started from what I recall, and most of their servers are there. GNOME is from south america, and though it has a lot of followers, it just doesn't beat "supporting the home product".
      That said, I love and use Xfce. Light, functional, and simple enough.
  • Skeithy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Ubuntu's wild success is probably a factor in GNOME taking the lead on KDE, but that isn't likely to change because KDE4 will be extremely buggy until 4.1 or 4.2 release. No other big surprises, although I didn't think Opera and Konqueror would have as many users as they do. I love Konqeuror, but I thought I was alone.
    • Nerevar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Reading your crystal ball? How do you know that KDE is going to be buggy when they're only on the first beta right now (and their betas are like other projects' alpha stages).
      • buggu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0It's common sense really, they're making new APIs, the DE and all programs are receiving major changes and there's a whole bunch of restructuring going on under the hood. Even the KDE devs admit that KDE 4.1 will be a big release, largely because it's going to be less buggy (more stable) and have some things they can't implement in KDE 4.0 because of time issues.
        • Jorophose, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0KDE 4.0 will be slightly buggier than 3.5.5, yes, but what do you expect? Do you think they want to wait forever to release a perfect KDE 4.0? Obviously they want it out ASAP, and the minor versions (4.x.x) are there precisely for bug fixes. The same thing happened with KDE3; would you rather they released it in 2006 or 2001 though?
    • sirhomer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yes but the foundation they are putting down for KDE4 is going to put GNOME to shame. It'll be a year after KDE4 is released tho until it will be utilized to it's potential, I think.
  • Darkhacker, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Am I the only one disturbed by the fact that text-based browsers got 4.3% of the vote? That's more than Epiphany and Seamonkey combined. Yes, I know they are fast and they have their place, but how can 4.3% use a text-based browser as their most common one? This is 2007. Images, flash, javascript, and all those other goodies are here to stay. I have the feeling that those 4.3% are probably Gentoo, compiled source, CLI, and optimization freaks or those who want to prove how "1337" they are by doing things in a console.
    • ha1f, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1No, we use real browsers too (as our main). I think its the noobs who want to seem 1337...
    • stmiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I know a few admins who do all of their work from a text based console for the entire day. 4.3% of Linux users being all text based seems about right for that percentage of geekiness. Granted, their social life consists of IRC chat rooms (only). :)
    • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Don't hate on Lynx, Links, Elinks, etc.
    • beermad, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'd suggest that a fair number of the people using text-based browsers are blind or partially-sighted so graphical browsers are no use to them.

      Which is why good web design should always take account of how pages render without graphics, stylesheets, etc.
    • oobuntu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If I remember correctly, it was a "tick all that apply" question (thats why the N= is more than the number of people surveyed). I think i ticked both firefox and konqueror
      Maybe they should also publish results that show which product people exclusively use.
    • weizbox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1'have the feeling that those 4.3% are probably Gentoo, compiled source, CLI, and optimization freaks or those who want to prove how "1337" they are by doing things in a console.'

      lol... since when has getting less information(video,audio,images) been 1337?
  • thewump, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1It was dumb for not including "Swiftfox" in the browser comparision, and why don't more people use XFCE?
  • postaldave, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2"On DistroWatch, PCLinuxOS has been at the top of the site's page hit ranking for the last 30 days. Frankly, we're not sure why this popular, easy-to-use community distribution didn't do better"

    ubuntu is a fine distro but their users spam the crap out of everything. is it no surprise that ubuntu did so well?
    frankly i think most other disto's user base just didn't really care about this.
    • ardklg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I know everyone's mileage may vary, but I found PCLinuxOS 2007 easier to install and get working on my laptop (including wireless) than Ubuntu/Kubuntu. So if anyone (especially current Windows users) has been less than enchanted with an Ububtu trial, you might want to give PCLinuxOS a try. (For wireless, have your Windows drivers on a CD or USB drive ready for NDISwrapper).
  • ZephyrNinety, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6apt-get is the best thing ever. Say you want GAIM. Instead of going to the site, choosing your OS, finding the right version, getting it, installing it...all you do "sudo apt-get install gaim" enter your password, BAM! You have GAIM installed.
    • Meep3D, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Perfectly fine if you know exactly what you want. If you want some random app to do something (such as sync a local folder with FTP) and you don't know the name, BAM! You're completely stuck. You have to go online, do a search, find what you want, find its only available as source or for a different distro and spend the next 2 hours trying to get it working as its not in the repo.
      • buggu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Sadly this is true. Apt-get is a blessing when what you're looking for is in the repository, but just the opposite when it doesn't. There's always some program that I want that isn't in the repos, sometimes the version in the repo is quite old. Fortunately, many programs provide packaged debs on their site specifically for Ubuntu so it's not all bad. But compiling is something that really provides Windows-BSOD level of frustration when you can't gather the dependencies.
      • srg13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"and you don't know the name, BAM! You're completely stuck."

        Well, then you couldn't you then just search synaptic?
    • oobuntu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3using your example, apt-cache might give you some idea...
      $ apt-cache search remote sync
      backup-manager - command-line backup tool
      chiark-scripts - chiark system administration scripts
      cvssuck - inefficient cvs repository grabber using cvs command
      duplicity - encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup
      ...
      ...
      rdiff-backup - remote incremental backup
      rsync - fast remote file copy program (like rcp)
  • stmiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9This was surprising to me:

    Fedora 6%

    Gentoo 7.2%

    More desktop Gentoo users than Fedora users in this survey.
  • ispep, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4Their ***** survey is as accurate as Google Trends and Distrowatch rankings. Buried.
    • darkchild, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I was just thinking the same thing. Its not really accurate in my opinion especially since some people posted details of the poll on the distros website and digg.
    • weizbox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If anything, it is a 'survey', so it is meant to be a sampling, but not meant to be hard facts by any means. You have to go to the site and fill out the survey in order to be counted in the first place anyways.. and I know I sure didn't since I didn't even know about it till now :)

      FTA: '...we can't claim scientific proof...'
  • kwilliam, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6<shameless plug> All Ubuntu users should try Kubuntu! It has the same package management and hardware support that we love, plus the goodness of KDE. Ubuntu's interface is simple, but KDE has better applications (Konqueror > Nautilus, Amarok > Rythmbox, Kicker > Panel...) and lots more features. If you don't install kubuntu-desktop, at least install Amarok! It is the best music player ever. </shameless plug>
    • vafada, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2dugg up. i just installed Kubuntu last week over vanilla Ubuntu and Kubuntu is 100x better than Ubuntu. Cleaner interface, Konqueror, Amarok, k3b, Adept, kopete, etc.
    • renegadeafk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Kubuntu is the bastardized child of ubuntu, it never included half of the new features ubuntu ahs (I.E Restricted Driver Manager)
  • sharjeelsayed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2XFCE is the choice of desktop for me.Fast and Simple.
  • NeverAcquiesce, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Linux Mint is really good for first time Windows migrants.
    multimedia playback, beryl, compiz, 'one click install' all out of the box.

    based on ubuntu so help is easy to find
  • rabidmonkey1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2How could they have never have heard of virtualbox?
    • Jorophose, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Easy. VirtualBox sucks and it's been pretty recently "opened". Did you catch that license?
  • linhongjun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0hmm...Ubuntu....the first.
  • golan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Interestingly, on this site statistics are against Gnome and in favor of KDE:
    http://www.ubuntista.com/2007/08/24/the-truth-about-gnome-vs-kde/
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