What is Digg?93 Comments
- Ademan, on 07/25/2008, -2/+383, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 are all terrible suggestions...
The real solution here is "remove things that are unnecessary", mostly pertaining to kernel modules and boot services... removing dhcp is an alright suggestion *i guess*, but it's impractical in almost all home-use cases. initng is cool, but there are TONS of sysvinit replacements out there, and not mentioning them isn't very cool (not the least of which is upstart...)
The suggestion to 'use a lighter weight distro' is just retarded for all but a hardcore linux person. "yep, i'm going to just up and move from my distro of choice to another distro on a whim" unless you've got spare partitions lying around this is impractical. Not to mention any distro can be customized to be light or heavy, all that's being discussed is the "default software loadout", I'd much rather rip out packages that I didn't want than have to migrate to a different distro... (note i do make a point to try out other distros, but that's quite different from actually migrating...)
Finally the point regarding lightweight window managers is... flawed, in my opinion. I've never considered the desktop loading as part of 'boot', but I suppose that's just arguing terminology. If you are concerned about the desktop loading time, you have plenty of other options besides switching to lighter window managers. Most of the slowdown in starting the GNOME desktop comes from the starting of auxiliary daemons like the ones that manage your settings, keyrings, panels, the window manager, and the desktop itself (nautilus). - acevoncash, on 07/25/2008, -1/+25press the power button, go get a cup of coffee and come back.
- zarcu, on 07/25/2008, -2/+25Its not a top ten list. (10 ways)
Also these seem useful but linux is pretty light weight as it is xD - Ademan, on 07/25/2008, -1/+14Ran out of edit time... the point is, the parts that make up GNOME's environment can be stripped down, or replaced, to the point that it's comparably fast to a lightweight window manager, and the same goes for KDE or Xfce.
That's not to say lightweight window managers are bad, on the contrary, they're awesome, but there are other solutions. Especially since often in a lightweight window manager you go "crap i really miss this feature from my normal desktop environment" and then you startup the gnome-settings-daemon, and then you want to use nautilus to browse remote shares, but you want to use your keyring so you startup the "gnome-keyring-daemon" and then you miss this one applet you had in your gnome panels, so you startup gnome-panel, and soon enough you've got almost half of Gnome running... - ChayesFSS, on 07/25/2008, -1/+13I don't know what the problem is, my ubuntu stations boot very quickly already?
- synyster, on 07/25/2008, -3/+14there no need to turn linux off , may be once a year, so i don't really care about this things
- nodnod, on 07/25/2008, -1/+9You obviously don't run linux on your laptop.
- arjie, on 07/25/2008, -1/+9#9 links to Pingwinek: http://home.gna.org/pingwinek/index.html
That's pretty cool, they have a GNU/Haiku distribution, I didn't even know Haiku worked. - alamko1999, on 07/25/2008, -1/+8wtf you cant even play it fully on windows
- laceration, on 07/25/2008, -0/+7boot up time saved < time messing around with suggested tweaks
- czarr, on 07/25/2008, -2/+8@ arjie: I boot ArchLinux in 15 seconds and the stock boot was still < 30. Linux != Ubuntu
- Egress99, on 07/25/2008, -1/+6Put a gun to its balls...it'll move.
- MavRevMatt, on 07/25/2008, -0/+5Totally agree with your points there, and many of these reasons probably are what turn people away from Linux. If an ordinary user reads something about how Linux users should switch to a different desktop environment, remove the graphical login, and "have to" disable these services they'll just go "oh that sounds like too much work" and move on. I know from my use of Ubuntu that it boots up faster than XP does if you want to count the true bootup time along with loading the desktop. There's no reason to disable or change all this stuff unless you're A. a totally impatient power user, or B. you're some journalist like her who's been told to write a blog about whatever BS and get traffic up.
- DemonWasp, on 07/25/2008, -1/+6I boot Ubuntu in 45 seconds, and Windows XP in ~60 seconds. Hmm.
- gkramm, on 07/25/2008, -0/+4how often do you patch your kernel man? You need to reboot for that.
- YodaJones, on 07/25/2008, -1/+5Removing service modules by re-compiling the kernel seems the best, but may turn off a lot of users.
- arjie, on 07/25/2008, -0/+4Well, I have to admit I was going by Ubuntu 7.04 (the 64-bit version of which had a long delay before the panels appeared) and Fedora. Anyway, Vista in 35 seconds here (to the login screen). Your numbers have no significance though, unless you mention Windows XP speed on the same computer.
In any case, I'm sorry I even said what I did. The last thing I want to do is mess with an article and drag it down to Windows vs. Linux. I always wondered why people bring it up because the discussion is endlessly boring really, it just accidentally happens. Let's just drop it. - PueSi, on 07/25/2008, -0/+4Turn on the computer and go make yourself a sandwich, you don't really need to be there for the computer to start.
- neon9999, on 07/25/2008, -1/+4You're asking us?
- akurashy, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3Well.. there is downloads... downloads... well it's a loop so lets just say they are downloading....
- DemonWasp, on 07/25/2008, -1/+4* Edit, time expired: I'm measuring from "pressing power button to turn on" to "firefox window appears" here, not just the OS time.
- newwatch51, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3Ubuntu Hardy is extremely slow to boot. It takes nearly 1:30 to boot on my laptop. Debian only takes 30.
- inactive, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3Assumptions made by the one and only Digg ***** Machine, Powered by Digg trolls and idiots like you!
- defenswens26, on 07/25/2008, -1/+4My ubuntu partition can go from a cold boot to usable in under 30 seconds. I don't have a problem waiting that "long"
- chr00t, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3Qemu-KVM is pretty sweet
- wesw02, on 07/25/2008, -1/+4One cool trick that I like to use, it actually makes the system load slightly slower on startup, but your applications will fly. You can have Linux create a ramdisk, when the kernel is first loading into memory, and cache your system applications to the ram disk. That way every time you start a new program, it just loads from the ram.
- inactive, on 07/25/2008, -1/+4Its already fast enough. Even if you shave off another 20 seconds you will get used to it and bitch about the speed again. My OTB installation of Ubuntu boots in about 30 seconds, fast enough.
- metaphyze, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3My SUSE machine has been running straight now for about 3 months. Why do I care about shaving a few seconds off my boot time?
- caseycoold, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3Dude, what are you doing on Digg?
Even if you never use it, why spam your imposed opinion? - klitzbtc, on 07/25/2008, -2/+5If you're rebooting enough to make this article relevant, then you're using Linux wrong.
- reyalp, on 07/25/2008, -2/+4http://lightningcrash.blogspot.com/2007/08/making- ...
- jay019, on 07/27/2008, -0/+2You dont have to burn a DVD, most dists have a CD version. Having the DVD just saves a ***** of time when you want to install extra programs.
- unrealmp3, on 07/26/2008, -0/+2Reboot = patch tuesday
- hobophobe, on 07/26/2008, -0/+2Check if the /etc/init.d/rc script contains the aforementioned line?
Most of the hits I'm seeing on Google seem to indicate the option is there. - inactive, on 07/26/2008, -0/+2Amiga501, A key member of the ***** machine.
(Also to note, He never directly attacked Linux, just it's users, like me. So that makes your whole joke of a point false as usual.) - wacked, on 07/25/2008, -3/+5an idiot giving opinions on how to run linux... what has the world come to... oh right! it's always been this way.
- jay019, on 07/27/2008, -0/+2They may be just using hibernate?
- shadywasabi, on 07/25/2008, -2/+4Actually, that's a way to make Linux boot /not at all/.
- reddikilowatt, on 07/26/2008, -0/+2I'm quite happy with the boot time on my laptop. I'm still learning the nuts and bolts of running Linux, so these sorts of articles are more informational for me. If I ever start to see slowdowns, I would assume it would be in some daemon taking too long to start. It's nice to know there are other things that may be involved.
- Origin415, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2I do. :(
- newwatch51, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2I don't understand why people keep their computers on all the time. Seems extremely wasteful.
- Origin415, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Should, Ubuntu is based on it. I am at work, so I can't try it out, though.
- lambda, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2I'm Ron Burgundy?
- inactive, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Well that's stupid because then you have to spend a few weeks realizing why you ran Linux and install it all over again.
A waste of time if you ask me. But I guess reinstalling Linux does make it faster, so maybe you're on to something.
(Actually, Windows XP is quite fragile sometimes - I changed my Mobo and all of my windows partitions died - and also, sometimes having a Linux partition in front of an NTFS one screws up setup O_o Don't ask me why. It still worked but it destroyed the partition table so i had to restart installation from the very beginning... It didn't even make it into the GUI part of setup... atleast the Linux partition was near empty...) - ZachSka87, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Does number 10 work on Ubuntu as well? Does anyone know?
- inactive, on 07/25/2008, -3/+5Seriously, if you run Linux why care about rebooting. Even on my windows computer stays on for weeks at a time without a reboot. But if u must boot fast just recompile your kernel with all the modules for your system and optimize it for your processor. Keep necessary services and background the rest.
- nrgyz, on 07/25/2008, -3/+5Forget those suggestions. Consolidate your servers with Xen. It takes about 10 sec. for a paravirtualized host to fully boot.
- diggerpleez, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2Because some of us run it on our laptops. Between home, office, client or whatever else, I boot at least 3 times a day.
- inactive, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR DUMBASS OPINION
(Fixed)
If you expect to be taken seriously...
Make your comment worth more than a joke and we'll get back to you. - jay019, on 07/27/2008, -0/+1This is the command you need to install Vista...
apt-get remove brain
and the result you will get...
E: Couldn't find package brain -
Show 51 - 94 of 94 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is