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- nepidae, on 06/30/2009, -5/+41If you "avoid the command line" then please use windows instead.
- krisrm, on 06/30/2009, -1/+35"#5: Not keeping a working kernel installed"
If you can't manage that, then *maybe* you should reconsider being a sysadmin... honestly. - cmendes0101, on 06/30/2009, -6/+32>.>
You're an idiot. - tama00, on 06/30/2009, -9/+31Wow this list sucks. I will summarise it in one sentence.
"Use common sense" - johndavidjack, on 06/30/2009, -0/+18List is garbage. I don't think the people that make these mistakes a lot get hired to be linux system administrators...
- DigitalPioneer, on 06/30/2009, -3/+21That is also coming from someone who doesn't know anything about Linux.
- inactive, on 06/30/2009, -2/+19frontpage 97 and ulead gif animator doesn't count bro
- warp99, on 06/30/2009, -1/+15You do know that Digg servers use Linux? So take your own advice, don't use it.
- flashingcurser, on 06/30/2009, -0/+14Oh yes they do. Most didn't get hired as linux admins, they found themselves doing linux admin by default. I have met many windows admins that became the defacto linux admin when a real linux admin moved on.
- nawill81, on 06/30/2009, -0/+13WoWooowowow, a real web and application developer??!?! And you hand out on digg with us common people... Amazing.
- koabug, on 06/30/2009, -0/+9Should be titled "10 mistakes newbie Linux users make"
Hopefully if you consider yourself a "Linux admin" you are not a Linux noob/ total dumbass. - warp99, on 06/30/2009, -2/+9It's a primer for the paper MSCE when management decides to add a few Linux boxes.
- cubicledrone, on 06/30/2009, -2/+9"[$noun]-savvy" should be forever removed from journalism
- flashingcurser, on 06/30/2009, -1/+8I agree to a point, and did digg you up, but someone fresh from windows administration would be aware of #2 and somewhat of #3. The rest wouldn't necessarily be common sense to them. I have a friend who does large enterprise windows network administration, he wouldn't know these.
- NegativeK, on 06/30/2009, -0/+7I was hoping for a list of enterprise admin mistakes, but this is for end users who just starting using Linux very, very recently.
At least Tech Republic doesn't consider me new. - HonoredMule, on 07/01/2009, -1/+71) I don't bother with 'Repair Connection' because it always takes 9 years and fails to accomplish anything. On the other hand, even on Windows, 2-3 text commands way more effectively either fix the problem or give me detailed information on WHAT is wrong and WHY. I don't need to be 'forced' to use CLI, I just appreciate whatever does the job best.
2) If you're too incompetent to use a CLI, that's actually not a problem. Nobody HAS to use CLI unless their job requires it...in which case it's fair to assume they are either happy with CLI or not qualified for that job. You can run Linux servers with GUIs if you so choose. The reason most of us don't is that we're not whining crybabies who refuse to learn something better just because it requires building up a new vocabulary for communication. Once we grow accustomed to CLI, we lose the X server because we've no longer any desire to deal with tedious and inept GUIs...especially when CLI offers so much more convenience (especially for remote administration), against which no GUI could compete. - secrity, on 07/01/2009, -0/+6None were.
- TeamBaldwin, on 07/01/2009, -0/+6Yea they do. Ever heard of the Windows pagefile?
- TheSnuffster, on 07/01/2009, -0/+6/
- jaytek13, on 06/30/2009, -1/+6Using the -f option indiscriminately. I've seen a number of systems get fubard by new admins because they accidentally forced a chmod or rm on files they didn't mean to.
- jemka, on 06/30/2009, -0/+5No. They make these lists to appeal to the most number of viewers. It's all about marketing. You read the article and now you're talking about it. Wasn't that the point?
- pokobunt, on 07/01/2009, -0/+5Yeah, because Windows is so much more secure and stable.
/s - ultrafez, on 06/30/2009, -0/+5I hate the word "savvy", it just sounds so stupid. A bit like "interwebs".
- warp99, on 06/30/2009, -2/+7@petersonca
Must be all of the Microsoft advertising driving people away. - radialturkey, on 06/30/2009, -0/+5Lol.. That's gonna suck to be the new linux user who falls for that.
- nepidae, on 07/01/2009, -1/+6you hate this mentality, fine. but nevertheless you cannot be a sysadmin without using the cli. one word: automation.
- nepidae, on 06/30/2009, -0/+5now its asking for some sort of password, what do i type?
- johndavidjack, on 06/30/2009, -0/+4Bitch please, I have rm -rf / in my .bashrc file
- tomarocco, on 07/01/2009, -2/+6You cannot be a computer admin or cannot administrate a network if you don't know how to use a CLI. PERIOD.
You are an end user. PERIOD.
It is not that people who use the CLI are elite, it is that people who don't use it are inferior. PERIOD.
You should be forced to wash dishes for a living. - Obsidian743, on 06/30/2009, -1/+5Lame. I was expecting actual admin mistakes for, you know, people that have spent more than 15 minutes using Linux or have common technical sense.
- johndavidjack, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3Edit the sudoers file and add yourself to the wheel group. Oh wait...
- dcherryholmes, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3I built out a clinic about 5 years ago with LTS on the servers and the latest release on the desktops. It's still going strong. I considered straight debian for the servers, but decided the benefits of homogeneity outweighed the risks.
- toaster13, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3No, you should find alternate, maintained repositories of the packages you are looking for and add them to yum/apt.
Failing that, build a proper package from the source so at least your package management system knows about it.
Failing THAT, install from source directly. - americanoboy, on 06/30/2009, -0/+3another article that pretends to be educational but instead is filled with useless information makes it to front page
- fendereff, on 06/30/2009, -3/+6Man up, use su, from the command line, and uninstall X.
- maz2331, on 06/30/2009, -0/+3Or just log in as root when doing admin. Even in Ubuntu.
- warp99, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3Building packages for your own systems are easy will tools such as checkinstall. There's no need to install anything from source unless it's a module.
Edit: You can even build proprietary software into a package with only a few configuration files and a single command. - dragoonkain, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3Suggestion #1 sounds kind of silly to me. If you really need package A and your package manager doesn't have it... "Oh well guess I'll just go without it then"? Am I going to start refusing to use apps in Windows because they don't come pre-packaged in *.msi's? Unfortunately not everything falls into that ideal world where every piece of software is distributed under every available distribution model.
- nepidae, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3dragossh, i guess, but i kinda thought this was about being a sysadmin
- mootxk, on 06/30/2009, -0/+3I support linux admins at huge corporations and major banks, and yes they do make all of these mistakes all day long and I have to pick up the pieces.
- theaceoffire, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3On a side note, I highly suggest doing that command after you back everything and before you install a new OS...
^_^ It is cool trying to use the system as chunks start failing/being deleted.... - inactive, on 06/30/2009, -0/+3I would think anyone having a good working knowlege of Linux would know better.
- warp99, on 07/01/2009, -0/+3@petersonca
"warp...your friend's list makes me laugh."
At least I have some.
"I can see Astral's Tweet now! "
You did notice that AstralKnight is not on my friend's list?
"They have like twice as many servers as they need for the traffic they get."
As explained in the Digg blog:
"We have about 1.8x to 2.5x the theoretical minimum number of machines required to run Digg. Operations mandates that we want 2x the server capacity required to run Digg, so this makes sense. But why the spread? Let’s go into some of the reasons as they pertain to the databases."
http://blog.digg.com/?p=213
Since I'm not a database expert by any means you're welcome to wade through the information at your leisure.
So lets see we have one ad hominem, one guilt by association ad hominem, and one anecdotal evidence fallacy all squeezed into your post. Shall we continue? - warp99, on 06/30/2009, -1/+3"How about never having sex again?"
Well you're right since Linux can't decrypt all that DRM infested porn, so you're out of luck. - johndavidjack, on 06/30/2009, -0/+2I run netcat with a root shell.
- tomarocco, on 07/01/2009, -2/+4Mistake #1: Installing Fedora
- constchar, on 06/30/2009, -0/+2Pffft!
Simple install "bad" packages from the multi-verse and you should be good to go. - damnshoes, on 07/01/2009, -0/+2please explain. :-/ why?
- shrewduser, on 07/03/2009, -0/+2works fine on every dell laptop i've owned, including vostro, right out of the box, currently using a rebranded MSI, and it's fantastic.
if you hate it then why are you even hanging out in a linux thread? why do you feel the need to tell us people who use linux how much it sucks?
let me just tell you how you look from the other side of the fence: "waaah waah i'm a developer with an IQ of a million and i couldn't get it working so it must be a sucky OS"
personally i'm surprised you can even keep yourself sustained as a developer with your attitude. in a harsher world natural selection would have left you by the wayside long ago.... - BalooUrsidae, on 07/01/2009, -2/+4If you avoid the command line, just shoot yourself in the head now. There's no OS that doesn't make you use it at /some/ point.
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